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[fenrir72]

Already redundant but in my previous posts all over the site when it concerns first impressions on leaked images, even when using a high pixel cam, what it looks like in a PC monitor differs greatly in real time. Same issue with Sandstorm. They ain't as bright as the images posted. make a judgement once you have them inhand.

[Cobotron]

Good point fen. When your looking at a computer monitor, you are looking directly at light. Not light reflecting off of a solid surface.

All the dispute over the color aside (although it has been entertaining to read), I'm more interested in the logic behind why they are releasing this guy again so soon after his original release. I thought maybe it had something to do with the release of MP Rod, but that's months away.
Is it just because it's a great figure?

[Wolfman Jake]

All the dispute over the color aside (although it has been entertaining to read), I'm more interested in the logic behind why they are releasing this guy again so soon after his original release. I thought maybe it had something to do with the release of MP Rod, but that's months away.
Is it just because it's a great figure?

I think it does have to do with the release of MP-28 Hot Rod and the second production run of MP-22 Ultra Magnus. Both are currently slated for a February 2016 release. Guess who's coming in February 2016 as well? Yep, it's LG-19 Springer!

[william-james88]

All the dispute over the color aside (although it has been entertaining to read), I'm more interested in the logic behind why they are releasing this guy again so soon after his original release. I thought maybe it had something to do with the release of MP Rod, but that's months away.
Is it just because it's a great figure?

I think it does have to do with the release of MP-28 Hot Rod and the second production run of MP-22 Ultra Magnus. Both are currently slated for a February 2016 release. Guess who's coming in February 2016 as well? Yep, it's LG-19 Springer!

Galvatronus coming out in february too?

[Ultra Markus]

That looks severely unpainted or horribly painted you decide.

maybe its the way the picture is with lighting and the way hes posed

[fenrir72]

Good point fen. When your looking at a computer monitor, you are looking directly at light. Not light reflecting off of a solid surface.

All the dispute over the color aside (although it has been entertaining to read), I'm more interested in the logic behind why they are releasing this guy again so soon after his original release. I thought maybe it had something to do with the release of MP Rod, but that's months away.
Is it just because it's a great figure?

The JP version seems to have sold out like hotcakes. It also cause the prices of FP not Springer to dump. Maybe fan/customer request influenced TTs decsion to relase another color version of him?

[albnok]

Different camera sensors and brands interpret colors differently.

Sonys for example brighten the greens and oranges to almost florescent, glowing color. Makes for nice landscapes but is inaccurate when photographing say a Fujifilm or Kodak film box.

Nikons boost as well, while Canon professional bodies are far more muted and color accurate (though not to everyone's taste.)

[Cobotron]

All the dispute over the color aside (although it has been entertaining to read), I'm more interested in the logic behind why they are releasing this guy again so soon after his original release. I thought maybe it had something to do with the release of MP Rod, but that's months away.
Is it just because it's a great figure?

I think it does have to do with the release of MP-28 Hot Rod and the second production run of MP-22 Ultra Magnus. Both are currently slated for a February 2016 release. Guess who's coming in February 2016 as well? Yep, it's LG-19 Springer!

Galvatronus coming out in february too?

I love being right.
I keep forgetting next year is the anniversary of the movie. It all makes sense now.

[Emerje]

my only comment is that at least if someone hadnt already got this version of Springer they have another opportunity. otherwise, im not too impressed.

I was gonna mention that. In Japan, toys dont get restocked often and if you miss on an opportunity when its released, you might not see it again. So this totally helps Japanese fans who didnt get a chance to get this incredible mold yet, and they no longer need to spend the bigger bucks importing the american version (it is more expensive to ship from US to Japan than from Japan to US). Takara has been doing this quite a bit lately and I am quite thankful for it. I wish hasbro could just release Prime Breakdown in some different deco just to get the mold out in retail.

Not going to say Springer was massively available in Japan the way he was in North America, but don't confuse Japanese online retailers with B&M retail locations. Just like how something long sold out at BBTS may still be collecting dust at Walmart, something that sold out fast at HLJ may still linger at Japan's TRU or a department store the same way thanks to their larger warehouses and distribution networks making restocking possible. Also while Takara Tomy's figures may be made in smaller numbers for Japan's retail they're better distributed between online retailers, department stores, toy stores, hobby shops, convenience stores (7-11 in Japan sells a small number of figures), and those Cybertron Satellite stores which include clothing and electronics chains.

Of course when it comes to Transformers these days it's hard for Takara Tomy to make anything somebody doesn't want so I don't doubt the new Springer figure will sell. And I agree that the actual figure will have more muted colors. There's something faulty in going by an amateur photo in direct light over light controlled professional photos.

Emerje

[william-james88]

my only comment is that at least if someone hadnt already got this version of Springer they have another opportunity. otherwise, im not too impressed.

I was gonna mention that. In Japan, toys dont get restocked often and if you miss on an opportunity when its released, you might not see it again. So this totally helps Japanese fans who didnt get a chance to get this incredible mold yet, and they no longer need to spend the bigger bucks importing the american version (it is more expensive to ship from US to Japan than from Japan to US). Takara has been doing this quite a bit lately and I am quite thankful for it. I wish hasbro could just release Prime Breakdown in some different deco just to get the mold out in retail.

Not going to say Springer was massively available in Japan the way he was in North America, but don't confuse Japanese online retailers with B&M retail locations. Just like how something long sold out at BBTS may still be collecting dust at Walmart, something that sold out fast at HLJ may still linger at Japan's TRU or a department store the same way thanks to their larger warehouses and distribution networks making restocking possible. Also while Takara Tomy's figures may be made in smaller numbers for Japan's retail they're better distributed between online retailers, department stores, toy stores, hobby shops, convenience stores (7-11 in Japan sells a small number of figures), and those Cybertron Satellite stores which include clothing and electronics chains.

Of course when it comes to Transformers these days it's hard for Takara Tomy to make anything somebody doesn't want so I don't doubt the new Springer figure will sell. And I agree that the actual figure will have more muted colors. There's something faulty in going by an amateur photo in direct light over light controlled professional photos.

Emerje

I was using first hand experience reported here on the forums. We have some japanese corespondants and they have told us that with the UW releases, for example, TRU releases them once. They have to wait in line on release date to make sure they get one. So, yes B&M retailers do sell out just as quickly IF the item is popular.

[Hellscream9999]

my only comment is that at least if someone hadnt already got this version of Springer they have another opportunity. otherwise, im not too impressed.

I was gonna mention that. In Japan, toys dont get restocked often and if you miss on an opportunity when its released, you might not see it again. So this totally helps Japanese fans who didnt get a chance to get this incredible mold yet, and they no longer need to spend the bigger bucks importing the american version (it is more expensive to ship from US to Japan than from Japan to US). Takara has been doing this quite a bit lately and I am quite thankful for it. I wish hasbro could just release Prime Breakdown in some different deco just to get the mold out in retail.

Not going to say Springer was massively available in Japan the way he was in North America, but don't confuse Japanese online retailers with B&M retail locations. Just like how something long sold out at BBTS may still be collecting dust at Walmart, something that sold out fast at HLJ may still linger at Japan's TRU or a department store the same way thanks to their larger warehouses and distribution networks making restocking possible. Also while Takara Tomy's figures may be made in smaller numbers for Japan's retail they're better distributed between online retailers, department stores, toy stores, hobby shops, convenience stores (7-11 in Japan sells a small number of figures), and those Cybertron Satellite stores which include clothing and electronics chains.

Of course when it comes to Transformers these days it's hard for Takara Tomy to make anything somebody doesn't want so I don't doubt the new Springer figure will sell. And I agree that the actual figure will have more muted colors. There's something faulty in going by an amateur photo in direct light over light controlled professional photos.

Emerje

I was using first hand experience reported here on the forums. We have some japanese corespondants and they have told us that with the UW releases, for example, TRU releases them once. They have to wait in line on release date to make sure they get one. So, yes B&M retailers do sell out just as quickly IF the item is popular.

Which again points to the question: why doesn't TT increase the production run? They don't have to do huge levels of excess, but increasing it even slightly would only prove to be a huge win-win for everyone involved

[william-james88]

Which again points to the question: why doesn't TT increase the production run? They don't have to do huge levels of excess, but increasing it even slightly would only prove to be a huge win-win for everyone involved

But it would only be beneficial on more popular items. The TAV line isnt doing too well in Japan and there is still stock available on the japan sites. That is not as easy to anticipate and they would rather sell out than have excess.

[Hellscream9999]

Which again points to the question: why doesn't TT increase the production run? They don't have to do huge levels of excess, but increasing it even slightly would only prove to be a huge win-win for everyone involved

But it would only be beneficial on more popular items. The TAV line isnt doing too well in Japan and there is still stock available on the japan sites. That is not as easy to anticipate and they would rather sell out than have excess.

Fair enough, so perhaps do additional runs in between figure production runs? Do a smaller second run of all the figures that sold out locally? I guess that still wouldn't work b/c they would need to reacquire the plastic and paint...

[chuckdawg1999]

Which again points to the question: why doesn't TT increase the production run? They don't have to do huge levels of excess, but increasing it even slightly would only prove to be a huge win-win for everyone involved

But it would only be beneficial on more popular items. The TAV line isnt doing too well in Japan and there is still stock available on the japan sites. That is not as easy to anticipate and they would rather sell out than have excess.

Actually it seems rather easy to anticipate. From what I've read the only toon based line that did well in Japan was Armada. So up the production on their Generation lines, and lower it for their cartoon lines.

[Whisper]

[delurk]

Figured I'd add my annual contribution to a thread, with my take on ol' Springys colour scheme.



Apologies for a few scruffy bits here and there, but it's 4.15am where I am, so

[Sabrblade]

[delurk]

Figured I'd add my annual contribution to a thread, with my take on ol' Springys colour scheme.



Apologies for a few scruffy bits here and there, but it's 4.15am where I am, so

Now that is much, MUCH, better than any official pic Takara has shown us of their figure. This is all the right greens in all the right places, with just the right amount of additional yellow slotted in to provide a perfect balance of color contrast. Takara should totally see this pic and change their deco to better reflect this one, as it is superior to the official deco in virtually every way.

Bravo on this digibash.

[Hellscream9999]

Been enjoyin' my Nightbird, but I gotta say, the lack of articulated wrists really hurts what could otherwise be an extremely poseable figure - as far as dynamic action poses go - with the sai's and such. While wrist swivels would've been to cumbersome to add, I think some cleverly engineered ball-jointed wrists would have made this figure perfect in my books, far surpassing anyone that I can think of.

[Hellscream9999]

[delurk]

Figured I'd add my annual contribution to a thread, with my take on ol' Springys colour scheme.



Apologies for a few scruffy bits here and there, but it's 4.15am where I am, so

Now that is much, MUCH, better than any official pic Takara has shown us of their figure. This is all the right greens in all the right places, with just the right amount of additional yellow slotted in to provide a perfect balance of color contrast. Takara should totally see this pic and change their deco to better reflect this one, as it is superior to the official deco in virtually every way.

Bravo on this digibash.

Indeed, now THIS would have been a worthy re-release of the figure

[chuckdawg1999]

Been enjoyin' my Nightbird, but I gotta say, the lack of articulated wrists really hurts what could otherwise be an extremely poseable figure - as far as dynamic action poses go - with the sai's and such. While wrist swivels would've been to cumbersome to add, I think some cleverly engineered ball-jointed wrists would have made this figure perfect in my books, far surpassing anyone that I can think of.

Ball-jointed wrists? Who do you think we're dealing with, Bandai?

[Hellscream9999]

Been enjoyin' my Nightbird, but I gotta say, the lack of articulated wrists really hurts what could otherwise be an extremely poseable figure - as far as dynamic action poses go - with the sai's and such. While wrist swivels would've been to cumbersome to add, I think some cleverly engineered ball-jointed wrists would have made this figure perfect in my books, far surpassing anyone that I can think of.

Ball-jointed wrists? Who do you think we're dealing with, Bandai?

Been done before (prime wheeljack, gen chromia, etc.) would've made a nice cuff, and would've allowed for incredible articulation without giving her freakishly large wrists with a mushroom peg

[Hellscream9999]

So do we know if TT added the fem trio on as a clever afterthought, or did they make the original molds with these in mind (excluding blackarachnia of course)?

I ask this because many of the ports on Nightbird seem designed exclusively for her sai's. So did they make arcee knowing this was happening, or did they just really cleverly engineer the weapons to fit all the ports on her bot mode?

[fenrir72]

[delurk]

Figured I'd add my annual contribution to a thread, with my take on ol' Springys colour scheme.



Apologies for a few scruffy bits here and there, but it's 4.15am where I am, so

Beautiful bash but did you all ever consider how much the cost of the extra plastic hues would affect TT's bottom line?

[Whisper]

[delurk]

Figured I'd add my annual contribution to a thread, with my take on ol' Springys colour scheme.



Apologies for a few scruffy bits here and there, but it's 4.15am where I am, so

Beautiful bash but did you all ever consider how much the cost of the extra plastic hues would affect TT's bottom line?

By my reckoning there's about the same number of hues as the original picture, the rest being paint apps, so the overall cost would be around the same as originally intended.

Dammit, I've had to post twice now in the same year. I'll have to wait until 2017 now to post again...

[fenrir72]

[delurk]

Figured I'd add my annual contribution to a thread, with my take on ol' Springys colour scheme.



Apologies for a few scruffy bits here and there, but it's 4.15am where I am, so

Beautiful bash but did you all ever consider how much the cost of the extra plastic hues would affect TT's bottom line?

By my reckoning there's about the same number of hues as the original picture, the rest being paint apps, so the overall cost would be around the same as originally intended.

Dammit, I've had to post twice now in the same year. I'll have to wait until 2017 now to post again...

For us that's negligible but for the corporate slugs that's a real biggie.

[Va'al]

We have seen in-hand images of the recently released Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Blackarachnia - which retools slightly the Animated toy to fit the Beast Wars aesthetic - but thanks to fellow Seibertronian grimdragon2001, we also have a video review, mirrored below for your viewing pleasure! Take a look, and see what you think of this new version of the character.