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[WreckerJack]

Is it just me, or does Kup look a little like Cerebros from a distance?

I was thinking the same thing. Though Cerebros is much more blocky in the chest and shoulders.

[Qwan]

I've been thinking about this, and I think the best cartoon accurate Kup, is going to be a mix of Habsro and TT.

Take the legs arms and head from TT, and plug them on to Hasbro's torso, and you get a 90% G1 toy accurate Kup.


A few reprolabels and he should be almost 100% accurate.

I've actually been thinking pretty much the same thing! Minus swapping the legs (since I'd personally prefer all the teal I can get on my combo-Kup), I'm planning on potentially swapping the head and arms over to a Hasbro version for more-or-less the best of both worlds. The better of both worlds for sure, at least.

In fact, here's a digibash I threw together to demonstrate that exact concept! Please do excuse the extra figure and watermark, one of BWTF's photos was the only one I could find that matched the approximate angle of the Legends version's stock photo.



Yeah, not fantastic, but not the worst either! Of course I'm still holding out hope that we'll see a color-change, even a subtle one, before release (is there precedent for that?) but I've definitely locked down a preorder for LG Kup/Char. Regardless of color he's still probably the best representation of Kup we've gotten IMO. (Oh yeah, and I preordered a Sharkticon too. It'll make a nice Gnaw to command the nameless TR Sharkticons. Dunno what I'm gonna do with Wasweep though, since I don't actually have any duplicate Scourges... )

[RodimusConvoy13]

I've been thinking about this, and I think the best cartoon accurate Kup, is going to be a mix of Habsro and TT.

Take the legs arms and head from TT, and plug them on to Hasbro's torso, and you get a 90% G1 toy accurate Kup.


A few reprolabels and he should be almost 100% accurate.

I've actually been thinking pretty much the same thing! Minus swapping the legs (since I'd personally prefer all the teal I can get on my combo-Kup), I'm planning on potentially swapping the head and arms over to a Hasbro version for more-or-less the best of both worlds. The better of both worlds for sure, at least.

In fact, here's a digibash I threw together to demonstrate that exact concept! Please do excuse the extra figure and watermark, one of BWTF's photos was the only one I could find that matched the approximate angle of the Legends version's stock photo.



Yeah, not fantastic, but not the worst either! Of course I'm still holding out hope that we'll see a color-change, even a subtle one, before release (is there precedent for that?) but I've definitely locked down a preorder for LG Kup/Char. Regardless of color he's still probably the best representation of Kup we've gotten IMO. (Oh yeah, and I preordered a Sharkticon too. It'll make a nice Gnaw to command the nameless TR Sharkticons. Dunno what I'm gonna do with Wasweep though, since I don't actually have any duplicate Scourges... )

You can get Hasbro Scourge from Amazon for $12.97 right now.

https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Generations-Titans-Return-Scourge/dp/B01CY201B4/ref=sr_1_23?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1491917152&sr=1-23&keywords=titans+return

[Kurona]

That... actually looks pretty damn good.

I really want to see what he looks like colour-matched with the body now...

[Qwan]

That... actually looks pretty damn good.

I really want to see what he looks like colour-matched with the body now...

I'm not sure if this is quite what you meant, but I went ahead and colored LG Kup's stock photo to more-or-less reflect the colors of TR Kup. Probably would have been easier actually working from the one I had, maybe I'll do that tomorrow when I have time to actually do it properly, but for now here's a quick-and-dirty (REALLY quick and REALLY dirty) approximation.



Yeah, the Photoshop job is awful. Like really, that's about 5 minutes of work total going on there. But I do have to admit, looking past the technical side of things it looks really good! Admittedly the major appeal of kitbashing TR and LG Kup together is that it'd require zero customisation aside from popping a couple balljoints, but for a more dedicated (read:better) customizer I'd say this is absolutely the way to go. Hopefully I'll make a much better approximation tomorrow, but maybe not, I'm a fickle creature.

[Kurona]

If Takara had just gone and done those colours and layout, there'd be no doubt in my mind he'd be a straight-up improvement...

[Wolfman Jake]

If Takara had just gone and done those colours and layout, there'd be no doubt in my mind he'd be a straight-up improvement...

Agreed. I'm very curious to hear from Takara Tomy as to WHY they decided to make Kup gray. Such a wasted opportunity.

[fenrir72]

If Takara had just gone and done those colours and layout, there'd be no doubt in my mind he'd be a straight-up improvement...

Agreed. I'm very curious to hear from Takara Tomy as to WHY they decided to make Kup gray. Such a wasted opportunity.

They'll say

"It's for the Japanese market" Just like MP Starsaber.

[Kurona]

Because the Japanese market... doesn't want the character to be coloured like the character?

[Emerje]

Hmmm... Taking a moment to really examine the images I can now see that Kup is entirely hand painted. At first I thought the dark gray was molded and the light gray was painted, but the entire figure is painted. I guess that means there might be enough time to change the colors after all.

I wonder how the Japanese are responding to this? Can't imagine they're any happier with the colors than we are.

Emerje

[Sigma Magnus]

Honestly, I don't mind Kup in grey. I think it looks fine. Sure, it could've had a bit more green-ish/teal-ish tint to it, but it looks like a good shade.

...still going for the Hasbro version though. Gotta keep consistency...

[Kurona]

Hmmm... Taking a moment to really examine the images I can now see that Kup is entirely hand painted. At first I thought the dark gray was molded and the light gray was painted, but the entire figure is painted. I guess that means there might be enough time to change the colors after all.

I wonder how the Japanese are responding to this? Can't imagine they're any happier with the colors than we are.

Emerje

Depends on the fan. Some'll be frustrated it's not accurate, some'll like the grey, some'll just not care.

[Wolfman Jake]

Hmmm... Taking a moment to really examine the images I can now see that Kup is entirely hand painted. At first I thought the dark gray was molded and the light gray was painted, but the entire figure is painted. I guess that means there might be enough time to change the colors after all.

I wonder how the Japanese are responding to this? Can't imagine they're any happier with the colors than we are.

Emerje

Interesting. Maybe Takara hasn't quite figured out what shades of teal they want to do, so they painted a mock-up that shows the layout and contrast of colors they're going for, but not the hue? I imagine the rest of the details, like the blue eyes and yellow detailing on the arms and such are more locked it, so they're painted as is, instead of leaving the entire figure in grayscale. It's a long shot, but it's hope, I suppose.

[Deadput]

They better not change the grey it's the reason I preordered it so it become the baste for my G1 movie Armorhide.

How about Takara releases a teal version later?

[Hydrargyrus]

Okay... personal preferences aside, I have two things to say:

That first digibash looks amazing.

Secondly, although I know what is, I'm now just wondering why. Like, why in the world would Takara choose this color scheme? I know it looks pretty good, but who would have come up with that?
(That is, if the colors are as different as you tell me they are)

[Emerje]

They better not change the grey it's the reason I preordered it so it become the baste for my G1 movie Armorhide.

How about Takara releases a teal version later?

Howabout they release a gray one later and release the right one first.

Emerje

[ScottyP]

Maybe it's for fun. Maybe it's because the TM gimmick is only a degree separated from Headmasters which provided the inspiration for the inclusion of said Targetmasters, then someone honestly believed he was gray in Rebirth and made it that way.

I don't care. This is "fighting imaginary assassins that are actually Autobots that Springer sent to try and help your crystal addicted mess of a self" Kup for me, and I'm sticking to it.

[Kurona]

Maybe it's for fun. Maybe it's because the TM gimmick is only a degree separated from Headmasters which provided the inspiration for the inclusion of said Targetmasters, then someone honestly believed he was gray in Rebirth and made it that way.

I don't care. This is "fighting imaginary assassins that are actually Autobots that Springer sent to try and help your crystal addicted mess of a self" Kup for me, and I'm sticking to it.

nightmare.jpg

Why do you do this to me? Why do you provide a decent reason for this colour scheme on Kup, making me want to import a deluxe this expensive?

[ScottyP]

Maybe it's for fun. Maybe it's because the TM gimmick is only a degree separated from Headmasters which provided the inspiration for the inclusion of said Targetmasters, then someone honestly believed he was gray in Rebirth and made it that way.

I don't care. This is "fighting imaginary assassins that are actually Autobots that Springer sent to try and help your crystal addicted mess of a self" Kup for me, and I'm sticking to it.

nightmare.jpg

Why do you do this to me? Why do you provide a decent reason for this colour scheme on Kup, making me want to import a deluxe this expensive?

I was committed to retroactively justifying the HLJ pre-order I put in for it. Lightbulb hit kind of out of nowhere

[Wolfman Jake]

Maybe it's for fun. Maybe it's because the TM gimmick is only a degree separated from Headmasters which provided the inspiration for the inclusion of said Targetmasters, then someone honestly believed he was gray in Rebirth and made it that way.

I don't care. This is "fighting imaginary assassins that are actually Autobots that Springer sent to try and help your crystal addicted mess of a self" Kup for me, and I'm sticking to it.

nightmare.jpg

Why do you do this to me? Why do you provide a decent reason for this colour scheme on Kup, making me want to import a deluxe this expensive?

I was committed to retroactively justifying the HLJ pre-order I put in for it. Lightbulb hit kind of out of nowhere

I'm pretty much in it JUST for the Targetmaster. Yes, $40 USD for a Targetmaster. It'll look great with my Genreations "Autobot Warriors 3-Pack" Sergeant Kup.

[joevill]

That Kup is lovely

[ScottyP]

That Kup is lovely

Joevill has spoken on Kup, meaning this matter is now settled and it shall henceforth be known as "Lovely Kup". Debate is no longer allowed

[Cobotron]

That Kup is lovely

Joevill has spoken on Kup, meaning this matter is now settled and it shall henceforth be known as "Lovely Kup". Debate is no longer allowed

AGREED! Any more moaning and groaning will result in a ban sandwich. Case closed!

[RodimusConvoy13]

That Kup is lovely

Joevill has spoken on Kup, meaning this matter is now settled and it shall henceforth be known as "Lovely Kup". Debate is no longer allowed

AGREED! Any more moaning and groaning will result in a ban sandwich. Case closed!

I can't wait to get my Lovely Kup. He's quite fetching.

[joevill]

That Kup is lovely

Joevill has spoken on Kup, meaning this matter is now settled and it shall henceforth be known as "Lovely Kup". Debate is no longer allowed

AGREED! Any more moaning and groaning will result in a ban sandwich. Case closed!

I can't wait to get my Lovely Kup. He's quite fetching.