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Cobotron wrote:Hasui Shogo - the Master of Trans-FU!!!![]()
Great interview. Always nice to hear from the creators.
william-james88 wrote:User897 wrote:Oh it's honest alright. An honest shaft to USA fans yet again. I am beyond tired of the "Oh yeah, we'll get it here in the USA, but if you want the REAL deal, you'll have to pay for Takara!"
Well it's not his fault. I mean Hasbro gave him a limit on pieces, that sucks.
But I dont get the part of "paying for takara". We have to pay for Hasbro too and Takara is the same price, you just have to pay for shipping:
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=FIGURE-012326&page=top%2Fsearch%2Flist%3Fs_keywords%3Ddevastator%24pagemax%3D40%24getcnt%3D0%24pagecnt%3D1
18,730 Yen = 150.85 $ US
Same Price![]()
Takara isnt getting more money from you than Hasbro would. They are actually getting less since they paid extra to give you better quality and financed their own internal design team when they could easily have just used the same Hasbro designs and called it a day.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
william-james88 wrote:User897 wrote:Thanks again to Hasbro for making sure the USA version has less parts.
I KNOWWhen I read that interview, it was not hard to read between the lines and see what he was referring to. That statement explains everything, the lack of weapons, the odd joints, especially the deal with Scrapper's arms. Stability my a$$, it was just the ideal place to not have to install extra pieces. And plus joints demand more pieces since you have to deal with the pins as well (which he explains). It's reading stuff like this which makes me glad I got the Takara version. And I am super glad to know that their UW 04 is exactly what they wished their Devastator to be from their original planning.
hinomars19 wrote:william-james88 wrote:User897 wrote:Thanks again to Hasbro for making sure the USA version has less parts.
I KNOWWhen I read that interview, it was not hard to read between the lines and see what he was referring to. That statement explains everything, the lack of weapons, the odd joints, especially the deal with Scrapper's arms. Stability my a$$, it was just the ideal place to not have to install extra pieces. And plus joints demand more pieces since you have to deal with the pins as well (which he explains). It's reading stuff like this which makes me glad I got the Takara version. And I am super glad to know that their UW 04 is exactly what they wished their Devastator to be from their original planning.
It baffles and bothers me slightly that anybody bought the stability issue. Of course it's parts count and plastic use.
There was an interview with a Takara designer some time past (don't remember who, sadly), and he stated how the figures have to be WEIGHED! If they don't fit within a pre-determined weight then plastic has to be removed.
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
Sabrblade wrote:Hasui plainly said that one of the conditions set upon him by Hasbro was "that it would be 6 newer and different types of construction machines". Hasbro told him to make the vehicles that they wanted, so he did.Rated X wrote:Gotta love the way they avoided asking any question regarding Mixmasters alt mode. If I wrote the questions, I would have put his ass on the spot...str8 up !
Rated X wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Hasui plainly said that one of the conditions set upon him by Hasbro was "that it would be 6 newer and different types of construction machines". Hasbro told him to make the vehicles that they wanted, so he did.Rated X wrote:Gotta love the way they avoided asking any question regarding Mixmasters alt mode. If I wrote the questions, I would have put his ass on the spot...str8 up !
Im not seeing "6 newer and different types of construction machines". Im seeing 5 G1 style construction machines and one ugly duckling. I wouldnt call it new generations style because ive never seen a cement mixer like that in person in my life. And I dont live in some small country town. I live in miami where construction goes on all the time and I see cement mixers parked roadside daily when I drive to work. Ive seen the picture here somebody posted so I know somewhere it does exist. But it seems to be the norm for hasbro to make one combiner unit non-G1 just to troll G1 purists. It started with puke and period blood vortex in the foc combaticons, then alpha bravo and rook, and then toiletmaster. There was no reason for hasbro to use that wacky design. Its not relevant in the construction world and its not relevant to G1 like the other 5 vehicles are.
Rated X wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Hasui plainly said that one of the conditions set upon him by Hasbro was "that it would be 6 newer and different types of construction machines". Hasbro told him to make the vehicles that they wanted, so he did.Rated X wrote:Gotta love the way they avoided asking any question regarding Mixmasters alt mode. If I wrote the questions, I would have put his ass on the spot...str8 up !
Im not seeing "6 newer and different types of construction machines". Im seeing 5 G1 style construction machines and one ugly duckling. I wouldnt call it new generations style because ive never seen a cement mixer like that in person in my life. And I dont live in some small country town. I live in miami where construction goes on all the time and I see cement mixers parked roadside daily when I drive to work. Ive seen the picture here somebody posted so I know somewhere it does exist. But it seems to be the norm for hasbro to make one combiner unit non-G1 just to troll G1 purists. It started with puke and period blood vortex in the foc combaticons, then alpha bravo and rook, and then toiletmaster. There was no reason for hasbro to use that wacky design. Its not relevant in the construction world and its not relevant to G1 like the other 5 vehicles are.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
All six of them are modern. It's just that the other five are based on vehicle types whose designs haven't changed as much in appearance as the look of that type of cement mixer has.Rated X wrote:Im not seeing "6 newer and different types of construction machines". Im seeing 5 G1 style construction machines and one ugly duckling.
Right, you live in a city, where the only cement mixers to be found would be the smaller-scaled ones used for urban and suburban jobs. This new Mixmaster toy, however, is not one of those. This one is one of the bigger-scaled giant-sized cement mixers that would be found in mining quarries and deserts away from the city, performing tasks on a much grander level of operation (like working on enormous development sites and complexes), whereas the smaller-scale ones that you commonly see are not-nearly-as-giant-sized mixers that perform tasks on much lower level of operation by comparison.Rated X wrote:I wouldnt call it new generations style because ive never seen a cement mixer like that in person in my life. And I dont live in some small country town. I live in miami where construction goes on all the time and I see cement mixers parked roadside daily when I drive to work. Ive seen the picture here somebody posted so I know somewhere it does exist.
As I said, all six of them have been updated from modestly-sized city construction vehicles to the gigantic-sized mining construction vehicles. The cement mixer (particularly the kind used for mining) is the only one of the six whose real world appearance has changed so drastically over the years, while the designs of the other five have remained more or less consistent in their appearances to this day.Rated X wrote:Its not relevant in the construction world and its not relevant to G1 like the other 5 vehicles are.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Rated X wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Hasui plainly said that one of the conditions set upon him by Hasbro was "that it would be 6 newer and different types of construction machines". Hasbro told him to make the vehicles that they wanted, so he did.Rated X wrote:Gotta love the way they avoided asking any question regarding Mixmasters alt mode. If I wrote the questions, I would have put his ass on the spot...str8 up !
Im not seeing "6 newer and different types of construction machines". Im seeing 5 G1 style construction machines and one ugly duckling. I wouldnt call it new generations style because ive never seen a cement mixer like that in person in my life. And I dont live in some small country town. I live in miami where construction goes on all the time and I see cement mixers parked roadside daily when I drive to work. Ive seen the picture here somebody posted so I know somewhere it does exist. But it seems to be the norm for hasbro to make one combiner unit non-G1 just to troll G1 purists. It started with puke and period blood vortex in the foc combaticons, then alpha bravo and rook, and then toiletmaster. There was no reason for hasbro to use that wacky design. Its not relevant in the construction world and its not relevant to G1 like the other 5 vehicles are.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
william-james88 wrote:Also be weary of hope in this hobby. Hope is just undiscovered disappointment.
Agamemnon, barebacked rider of flying robo-dragon, and not often constipated either...My nephew wrote:Bacon is meat candy.
Sabrblade wrote:Though, Mixmaster is done as that kind of cement mixer not simply to be modernized, but also because that type of design is what the great big mining cement mixers look like,
Rated X wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Though, Mixmaster is done as that kind of cement mixer not simply to be modernized, but also because that type of design is what the great big mining cement mixers look like,
Here's my thing....
Why would a cement mixer be needed in a "mining" operation ?
Believe it or not, we actually have a rock quarry near the Everglades portion of South Miami. I once visited it to see an explosives demonstration presented by former military bomb squad members. I got to see several huge mining vehicles including a dump truck as big as Long Haul from ROTF. (They are freaking huge) However there were no cement mixers present because nothing was being built. They were mining.![]()
As the pictures Hellscream9999 shows, there no debate that these "neo" cement mixers are big and do fit better with the scale they are shooting for. (which is controversial to begin with) However, I know Im not the only TF fan that didnt know these type of cement mixers existed before this figure was revealed. And in my opinion, they are ugly.
Rated X wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Though, Mixmaster is done as that kind of cement mixer not simply to be modernized, but also because that type of design is what the great big mining cement mixers look like,
Here's my thing....
Why would a cement mixer be needed in a "mining" operation ?
Believe it or not, we actually have a rock quarry near the Everglades portion of South Miami. I once visited it to see an explosives demonstration presented by former military bomb squad members. I got to see several huge mining vehicles including a dump truck as big as Long Haul from ROTF. (They are freaking huge) However there were no cement mixers present because nothing was being built. They were mining.![]()
As the pictures Hellscream9999 shows, there no debate that these "neo" cement mixers are big and do fit better with the scale they are shooting for. (which is controversial to begin with) However, I know Im not the only TF fan that didnt know these type of cement mixers existed before this figure was revealed. And in my opinion, they are ugly.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
jay5 wrote:Looking forward to less dead-horse beating about Devastator (even though I agree mostly with Rated X), and more UW-05 and UW-06 talk/speculation/test shots/etc.
fenrir72 wrote:Just my take from a show that required suspension of belief.
Wolfman Jake wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Just my take from a show that required suspension of belief.
I think you mean "suspension of disbelief." You need to suspend or putt
Hellscream9999 wrote:Rated X wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Though, Mixmaster is done as that kind of cement mixer not simply to be modernized, but also because that type of design is what the great big mining cement mixers look like,
Here's my thing....
Why would a cement mixer be needed in a "mining" operation ?
Believe it or not, we actually have a rock quarry near the Everglades portion of South Miami. I once visited it to see an explosives demonstration presented by former military bomb squad members. I got to see several huge mining vehicles including a dump truck as big as Long Haul from ROTF. (They are freaking huge) However there were no cement mixers present because nothing was being built. They were mining.![]()
As the pictures Hellscream9999 shows, there no debate that these "neo" cement mixers are big and do fit better with the scale they are shooting for. (which is controversial to begin with) However, I know Im not the only TF fan that didnt know these type of cement mixers existed before this figure was revealed. And in my opinion, they are ugly.
It's okay to be ignorant of things like this, so long as it's not held against others; I grew up around them, and have seen many on the road in my life, I find it inconceivable (I literally cannot imagine never seeing one - ever) that people can have never seen one like this - it's quite interesting, really. I think TT does a fair job of evoking the cab portion as a foot, while modernizing the mixer.
The one shown in my post is a smaller variant, they can get quite massive; the articulated pump truck (still awesome) receives cement from this specific style of mixer into a hopper on the back of it and pumps it along the arm via a hose to reach the tops of tall buildings and such.
As for needing cement in a 'mining' situation (and any others that may fall under this umbrella term), I can think of a few reasons off the top of my head as to why, but it's irrelevant. Plus utility vehicles are rarely designed to 'look' nice - they are all function and efficiency.
Burn wrote:I can't believe the Mixmaster "debate" has come up again.
carytheone wrote:I've seen an Oscar Mayer Weiner, but have you ever seen one transform?
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