The Energon Pub

News Credits: 8 · by **Flashwave** » Thu May 14, 2015 5:16 pm

Well, I'd be intrigued by a Groove if I didn't already have to duplicate the others. And I like relative scale, (IE, not a stickler, but good to be close.) when the character is implicated to be a human motorcycle, and not a Cybertronian scaled one (Like Wreck-Gar).

by **Rated X** » Thu May 14, 2015 6:43 pm

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Thu May 14, 2015 6:49 pm

Shockwave7 wrote:The silhouette doesn't make it look like Rook with Groove stuck to the front. The bottom half looks very different - but anyone who says pictures never lie has never used photoshop....

Can someone please pm me this pic or post the custom pic in this thread. of Rook with grove stuck to him in combiner leg mode.

Think it's a slight possibility that Takara might be using the new mold CW Tecnobot Afterburner. repurposed as Grove for their Defensor combiner.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Thu May 14, 2015 8:07 pm

Tsutsukakushi wrote:
Shockwave7 wrote:The silhouette doesn't make it look like Rook with Groove stuck to the front. The bottom half looks very different - but anyone who says pictures never lie has never used photoshop....

Can someone please pm me this pic or post the custom pic in this thread. of Rook with grove stuck to him in combiner leg mode.

Think it's a slight possibility that Takara might be using the new mold CW Tecnobot Afterburner. repurposed as Grove for their Defensor combiner.

The image is somewhere in the CW thread. Iirc chuckdawg posted it.

by **Ultra Markus** » Thu May 14, 2015 8:59 pm

maybe its a precursor to Afterburner repainted to be Groove

News Credits: 11 · by **primalxconvoy** » Thu May 14, 2015 9:15 pm

I have a feeling that Takara will release combiner wars optimus, plus the additional (recoloured) "extra" characters (Rook, Alpha Bravo, etc) as Energon Optimus Primw, complete with his "OP 1-4" drones. It wouldn't surprise me if he even came with a trailer, but wouldn't be upset if he didn't. Then, Takara can sell recoloured drones for Grand Scourge, too as store exclusives (so you need to buy one each from a different shop)...

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Thu May 14, 2015 11:08 pm

*would SO buy that*

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Thu May 14, 2015 11:11 pm

fenrir72 wrote:
Tsutsukakushi wrote:
Shockwave7 wrote:The silhouette doesn't make it look like Rook with Groove stuck to the front. The bottom half looks very different - but anyone who says pictures never lie has never used photoshop....

Can someone please pm me this pic or post the custom pic in this thread. of Rook with grove stuck to him in combiner leg mode.

Think it's a slight possibility that Takara might be using the new mold CW Tecnobot Afterburner. repurposed as Grove for their Defensor combiner.

The image is somewhere in the CW thread. Iirc chuckdawg posted it.

Nope wasn't me

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Thu May 14, 2015 11:20 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Tsutsukakushi wrote:
Shockwave7 wrote:The silhouette doesn't make it look like Rook with Groove stuck to the front. The bottom half looks very different - but anyone who says pictures never lie has never used photoshop....

Can someone please pm me this pic or post the custom pic in this thread. of Rook with grove stuck to him in combiner leg mode.

Think it's a slight possibility that Takara might be using the new mold CW Tecnobot Afterburner. repurposed as Grove for their Defensor combiner.

The image is somewhere in the CW thread. Iirc chuckdawg posted it.

Nope wasn't me

Groove on Rook image. It wasn't you chuckdawg? My bad. Anyway tsu, you can use the search function either in seibertron or google.

News Credits: 3597 · by **Seibertron** » Fri May 15, 2015 12:15 am

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Powered Convoy wrote:
Seibertron wrote:I knew they'd pull this off right! While this practice is a little deceptive to consumers, I still think it's pretty brilliant. Kudos to them for doing this right.

In the case of the Aerialbots and Stunticons it may have been, even then I think it's more of Hasbro not wanting too much redundancy in their lineups and Takara wanting to recreate the original teams. So Hasbro went along with making them as a way for fans to recreate the original teams while also making the teams diverse enough on the shelves.

In this case, it's not a matter of lack of diversity but some weird adherence to scale (despite Rook being huge compared to his team mates if they were in scale). So Groove was developed as a Legend to keep him as part of the team.

I think that this Deluxe Groove is a TakaraTomy only initiative to have the original Protectobots with the same roles as the originals. Hence why Legends Groove is Adventure Override and now we have a Deluxe Groove coming.

I think the other issue is Takara are selling these as one set as opposed to Hasbro who are selling each figure individually. Takara can get away with some uniformity in design that way since 5 figures are moving in one swoop whereas Hasbro feels they need some diversity on the shelves.

You guys are fooling yourselves if you believe all of that. It just comes down to ... how can we maximize our profits? There's a reason Takara's keep not getting announced until after the initial Hasbro shipments begin arriving. There's nothing wrong with making money ... this is just a perfect example of how to make money while not showing all of your cards.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Fri May 15, 2015 3:18 am

Via the eHobby Shop website, we have two additional images of Takara Tomy Unite Warriors Grand Scourge, the upcoming Nemesis-esque repaints of the Combiner Wars Optimus Prime figure. The photos, mirrored below, show the figure in both combiner mode and holding the cleaver Matrix Breaker with both hands, for those collectors who like they murderous swordbots. Check 'em out!

News Credits: 1 · by **RhA** » Fri May 15, 2015 5:32 am

That is painfully good looking. But I've decided to just keep my Prime and give him Rook and Alpha Bravo.

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Fri May 15, 2015 8:42 am

He's back up for preorder at HLJ, by the way. He was pre-sold out for some time, but no longer.

News Credits: 4836 · by **william-james88** » Fri May 15, 2015 9:07 am

megatronus wrote:He's back up for preorder at HLJ, by the way. He was pre-sold out for some time, but no longer.

Who?

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Fri May 15, 2015 10:53 am

william-james88 wrote:
megatronus wrote:He's back up for preorder at HLJ, by the way. He was pre-sold out for some time, but no longer.

Who?

Grand Scourge.

by **jogunwarrior** » Fri May 15, 2015 12:19 pm

Though I passed on the Optimus Prime figure, I would pick this guy up in a heartbeat! He looks awesome, I love those colors.

News Credits: 3 · by **Collector Canine** » Sat May 16, 2015 11:46 am

I am currently LOVING Unite Warriors Grand Scourge. It just has an awesome color scheme and Scourge was one of my favorite characters in R.I.D.1, so I might might pick this guy up at some point, even though Optimus Prime and Motormaster are my least favorite Combiner Wars figures.

News Credits: 4836 · by **william-james88** » Sat May 16, 2015 5:04 pm

DigitalBrave3 wrote:I am currently LOVING Unite Warriors Grand Scourge. It just has an awesome color scheme and Scourge was one of my favorite characters in R.I.D.1, so I might might pick this guy up at some point, even though Optimus Prime and Motormaster are my least favorite Combiner Wars figures.

What do you dislike about motormaster. I though the truck mode was near perfect.

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Sat May 16, 2015 6:33 pm

I love that Motormaster mold. Hands down one of my favorite CW figures, but it appears I'm in the minority.

by **Yotsuyasan** » Sat May 16, 2015 6:37 pm

megatronus wrote:I love that Motormaster mold. Hands down one of my favorite CW figures, but it appears I'm in the minority.

Well, I don't have Motormaster, but I did pick up Optimus Prime. And, aside from the unpaintable grey plastic (which one of these days, I shall fix with Reprolabels) I've liked him a lot more then I was expecting to based on photos I saw before buying him. Not my favorite Optimus, but still a good mold.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Sat May 16, 2015 6:45 pm

megatronus wrote:I love that Motormaster mold. Hands down one of my favorite CW figures, but it appears I'm in the minority.

You're not alone! I have issues with Hasbro's CW Prime only because of the lazy paint execution. Though I don't have MM yet, I've seen enough pics to know I'll like him. And I'm dying to get Grand Scourge

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Sat May 16, 2015 6:54 pm

megatronus wrote:I love that Motormaster mold. Hands down one of my favorite CW figures, but it appears I'm in the minority.

I don't think so. He is a great figure. He is such a beast in bot mode. His transformation feels powerful and lends to him being a brawler.

News Credits: 4836 · by **william-james88** » Sat May 16, 2015 7:19 pm

carytheone wrote:
megatronus wrote:I love that Motormaster mold. Hands down one of my favorite CW figures, but it appears I'm in the minority.

I don't think so. He is a great figure. He is such a beast in bot mode. His transformation feels powerful and lends to him being a brawler.

Totally agree. I love that guy, probably my favourite stunticon. And that truck mode is really sweet. I am really impressed at how nice and detailed each mode is (the truck has barely any kibble from the robot mode and the robot mode has plenty of new details you dont find in truck mode). To me, he's the Cybertron Hotshot of trucks.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Sat May 16, 2015 10:31 pm

william-james88 wrote:
carytheone wrote:
megatronus wrote:I love that Motormaster mold. Hands down one of my favorite CW figures, but it appears I'm in the minority.

I don't think so. He is a great figure. He is such a beast in bot mode. His transformation feels powerful and lends to him being a brawler.
Totally agree. I love that guy, probably my favourite stunticon. And that truck mode is really sweet. I am really impressed at how nice and detailed each mode is (the truck has barely any kibble from the robot mode and the robot mode has plenty of new details you dont find in truck mode). To me, he's the Cybertron Hotshot of trucks.

For all the Mototmaster/Menasor naysayers out there, a simple mis-transformation can greatly improve him!

*click the pic to see more poses*

by **Genericon #378** » Tue May 19, 2015 10:16 am

Shuttershock wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:
RhA wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:Geez, at this rate ALL the new guys are going to end up on team Galvatronus.

LOL I was thinking the same thing

I can't deal with that. Rook and Alpha Bravo are going to pair with Optimus. I flat out refuse to combine Autobots with Decepticons.

"FOOL! Galvatronus does not ask, Galvatronus TAKES!"

Haha, also doesnt the bio say he can mid control everyone?

Exactly! Autobot or Decepticon, all bend knee to Galvatronus (or make one).