The Energon Pub

[william-james88]

Pretty sure at this point it's safe to say Hotrod is a shellformer.

Maybe he's a panel-former like universe ironhide?

I think he's whatever animated Rodimus is.

[Hellscream9999]

Pretty sure at this point it's safe to say Hotrod is a shellformer.

Maybe he's a panel-former like universe ironhide?

I think he's whatever animated Rodimus is.

'Not released to my area due to distribution'? naw, that doesn't make sense, must be something else

[Rodimus Prime]

Pretty sure at this point it's safe to say Hotrod is a shellformer.

Maybe he's a panel-former like universe ironhide?

I think he's whatever animated Rodimus is.

TFA Rodimus has tight transformation, and minimal back kibble, MP-28 looks like he has way too much kibble in the back. That spoiler is waaaay out there. Huge turn off.

[Hellscream9999]

Pretty sure at this point it's safe to say Hotrod is a shellformer.

Maybe he's a panel-former like universe ironhide?

I think he's whatever animated Rodimus is.

TFA Rodimus has tight transformation, and minimal back kibble, MP-28 looks like he has way too much kibble in the back. That spoiler is waaaay out there. Huge turn off.

Yeah animated rodimus looked real nice, mp hot rod is kinda a panel-ridden mess, just the nature of the beast though, I suppose

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Pretty sure at this point it's safe to say Hotrod is a shellformer.

Maybe he's a panel-former like universe ironhide?

I think he's whatever animated Rodimus is.

TFA Rodimus has tight transformation, and minimal back kibble, MP-28 looks like he has way too much kibble in the back. That spoiler is waaaay out there. Huge turn off.

Yeah animated rodimus looked real nice, mp hot rod is kinda a panel-ridden mess, just the nature of the beast though, I suppose

Funny how an animated figure can be considered a better version than a masterpiece.

[Hellscream9999]

Pretty sure at this point it's safe to say Hotrod is a shellformer.

Maybe he's a panel-former like universe ironhide?

I think he's whatever animated Rodimus is.

TFA Rodimus has tight transformation, and minimal back kibble, MP-28 looks like he has way too much kibble in the back. That spoiler is waaaay out there. Huge turn off.

Yeah animated rodimus looked real nice, mp hot rod is kinda a panel-ridden mess, just the nature of the beast though, I suppose

Funny how an animated figure can be considered a better version than a masterpiece.

Yeah, but it's not difficult, animated rodimus was pretty on-point

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Pretty sure at this point it's safe to say Hotrod is a shellformer.

Maybe he's a panel-former like universe ironhide?

I think he's whatever animated Rodimus is.

TFA Rodimus has tight transformation, and minimal back kibble, MP-28 looks like he has way too much kibble in the back. That spoiler is waaaay out there. Huge turn off.

Yeah animated rodimus looked real nice, mp hot rod is kinda a panel-ridden mess, just the nature of the beast though, I suppose

Funny how an animated figure can be considered a better version than a masterpiece.

Yeah, but it's not difficult, animated rodimus was pretty on-point

Never got him, but based on reviews I'd say so

[Burn]

Funny how an animated figure can be considered a better version than a masterpiece.

The original G1 figure does a better job of the back kibble and spoiler than this Masterpiece version.

[Cobotron]

Funny how an animated figure can be considered a better version than a masterpiece.

The original G1 figure does a better job of the back kibble and spoiler than this Masterpiece version.

Sad but true.

[Hellscream9999]

Funny how an animated figure can be considered a better version than a masterpiece.

The original G1 figure does a better job of the back kibble and spoiler than this Masterpiece version.

Ouch, BURN-ED

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Funny how an animated figure can be considered a better version than a masterpiece.

The original G1 figure does a better job of the back kibble and spoiler than this Masterpiece version.

Ouch, BURN-ED

Sigh, when masterpiece cant backpack like the rest of 'em...

I wonder how old that whole burn-ed thing is to Burn? He's gotta be deleting posts with it in it cause he's tired of 'em by now

[Hellscream9999]

Funny how an animated figure can be considered a better version than a masterpiece.

The original G1 figure does a better job of the back kibble and spoiler than this Masterpiece version.

Ouch, BURN-ED

Sigh, when masterpiece cant backpack like the rest of 'em...

Well, it's their fault for trying to go super show accurate with a figure that just can't do that, he's proportionately designed to be as wide as his shoulders and chest when in vehicle mode, short-changing either would result in a weird vehicle mode; so, yeah, bummer they chose to dredge him up and try to do even less than the former. Should've just left it alone and done an easy one, like seaspray, or something

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Funny how an animated figure can be considered a better version than a masterpiece.

The original G1 figure does a better job of the back kibble and spoiler than this Masterpiece version.

Ouch, BURN-ED

Sigh, when masterpiece cant backpack like the rest of 'em...

Well, it's their fault for trying to go super show accurate with a figure that just can't do that, he's proportionately designed to be as wide as his shoulders and chest when in vehicle mode, short-changing either would result in a weird vehicle mode; so, yeah, bummer they chose to dredge him up and try to do even less than the former. Should've just left it alone and done an easy one, like seaspray, or something

Or, ya know, Trailbreaker......

[Hellscream9999]

Funny how an animated figure can be considered a better version than a masterpiece.

The original G1 figure does a better job of the back kibble and spoiler than this Masterpiece version.

Ouch, BURN-ED

Sigh, when masterpiece cant backpack like the rest of 'em...

Well, it's their fault for trying to go super show accurate with a figure that just can't do that, he's proportionately designed to be as wide as his shoulders and chest when in vehicle mode, short-changing either would result in a weird vehicle mode; so, yeah, bummer they chose to dredge him up and try to do even less than the former. Should've just left it alone and done an easy one, like seaspray, or something

Or, ya know, Trailbreaker......

Well, I was being facetious, I don't get mp's, I don't like G1 enough, maybe they could've worked on bw megatron instead of this...

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Funny how an animated figure can be considered a better version than a masterpiece.

The original G1 figure does a better job of the back kibble and spoiler than this Masterpiece version.

Ouch, BURN-ED

Sigh, when masterpiece cant backpack like the rest of 'em...

Well, it's their fault for trying to go super show accurate with a figure that just can't do that, he's proportionately designed to be as wide as his shoulders and chest when in vehicle mode, short-changing either would result in a weird vehicle mode; so, yeah, bummer they chose to dredge him up and try to do even less than the former. Should've just left it alone and done an easy one, like seaspray, or something

Or, ya know, Trailbreaker......

Well, I was being facetious, I don't get mp's, I don't like G1 enough, maybe they could've worked on bw megatron instead of this...

Trailbreaker is my favorite transformer of all time. When they make him a masterpiece, I will get him. He will be my first more than likely

[Burn]

I don't like G1 enough,

[Hellscream9999]

I don't like G1 enough,

(laughing so hard right now)

You trying out new motto's for the site or somethin'?

You should sig that, set everyone straight, and keep reminding me of what's really important

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I don't like G1 enough,

(laughing so hard right now)

You trying out new motto's for the site or somethin'?

You should sig that, set everyone straight, and keep reminding me of what's really important

Ever get that feeling we deviated again, but this time is was Burn's fault???

Animated and G1 both had great designs (looked them both up after reading up on them) and yeah, they only needs some minor stuff to obtain masterpiece quality

[Burn]

Ever get that feeling we deviated again, but this time is was Burn's fault???

You lot continued it. You could have ignored it, but noooooo...

Animated and G1 both had great designs (looked them both up after reading up on them) and yeah, they only needs some minor stuff to obtain masterpiece quality

When Hot Rod V2 was announced my reaction was "Is that really necessary?"

Now, the more I look at it I think "What the hell were they thinking when they set out to redesign him whilst sticking to MP standards?"

Unless standards have changed ...

[william-james88]

Ever get that feeling we deviated again, but this time is was Burn's fault???

You lot continued it. You could have ignored it, but noooooo...

Animated and G1 both had great designs (looked them both up after reading up on them) and yeah, they only needs some minor stuff to obtain masterpiece quality

When Hot Rod V2 was announced my reaction was "Is that really necessary?"

Now, the more I look at it I think "What the hell were they thinking when they set out to redesign him whilst sticking to MP standards?"

Unless standards have changed ...

I believe they have due to a change in designer. Tracks with that giant gap and Ironhide with the odd proportions end up being the first MPs to truly be done without any assistance by Hasui. I dont know about you, but I can tell. Here is a list of what he did work on and I will let you all see for yourselves whether or not the MP line has suffered (or will suffer) in light of this shift:

Masterpiece
MP-10 Convoy
MP-11 Starscream (with Hironori Kobayashi)
MP-12 Lambor
MP-12G Lambor G-2 Ver.
MP-13 Soundwave (with Condor)
MP-13B Soundblaster (with Ratbat)
MP-14 Alert
MP-15 Rumble & Jaguar
MP-16 Frenzy & Buzzsaw
MP-17 Prowl
MP-18 Streak
MP-19 Smokescreen
MP-20 Wheeljack
MP-21 Bumble
MP-22 Ultra Magnus (initial design, final version by Hironori Kobayashi)
MPM-1 Starscream (Movie Leader Starscream)

[Hellscream9999]

I believe they have due to a change in designer. Tracks with that giant gap and Ironhide with the odd proportions end up being the first MPs to truly be done without any assistance by Hasui. I dont know about you, but I can tell. Here is a list of what he did work on and I will let you all see for yourselves whether or not the MP line has suffered (or will suffer) in light of this shift:

I still think tracks is great, being small and curvaceous in vehicle, and trying to look like the figure/show model, he was bound to have a backpack, and there is only so much panel forming one can do to conceal it. the body is defined -and the back is enclosed - and the trunk part is just attached - it is a literal backpack and I'm okay with that.

[Ironhidensh]

I believe they have due to a change in designer. Tracks with that giant gap and Ironhide with the odd proportions end up being the first MPs to truly be done without any assistance by Hasui. I dont know about you, but I can tell. Here is a list of what he did work on and I will let you all see for yourselves whether or not the MP line has suffered (or will suffer) in light of this shift:

I still think tracks is great, being small and curvaceous in vehicle, and trying to look like the figure/show model, he was bound to have a backpack, and there is only so much panel forming one can do to conceal it. the body is defined -and the back is enclosed - and the trunk part is just attached - it is a literal backpack and I'm okay with that.

Not acceptable, not under the masterpiece banner. MPs are supposed to be on another level altogether. These latest entries (with the exception of shockwave) feel more like oversized generations toys than MPs. They could do better, and have proven they can in the past. Now it feels like they are just trying to make a cheep back.

[Hellscream9999]

I believe they have due to a change in designer. Tracks with that giant gap and Ironhide with the odd proportions end up being the first MPs to truly be done without any assistance by Hasui. I dont know about you, but I can tell. Here is a list of what he did work on and I will let you all see for yourselves whether or not the MP line has suffered (or will suffer) in light of this shift:

I still think tracks is great, being small and curvaceous in vehicle, and trying to look like the figure/show model, he was bound to have a backpack, and there is only so much panel forming one can do to conceal it. the body is defined -and the back is enclosed - and the trunk part is just attached - it is a literal backpack and I'm okay with that.

Not acceptable, not under the masterpiece banner. MPs are supposed to be on another level altogether. These latest entries (with the exception of shockwave) feel more like oversized generations toys than MPs. They could do better, and have proven they can in the past. Now it feels like they are just trying to make a cheep back.

So, what, do you want the weird hunchback backpack filled in completely? I guess they could've made the panels fold out the other way; not sure what the problem is with a gap between a figure and it's backpack; maybe they could've had the hinges pull it closer to the body, maybe people should get over it, you won't see it anyways in your collection anyways

*edit* I take a lot of that back, having watched benscollectables' review, he has a lot of gaps, and his collar area is a barren valley. Still not sure how this could've been overcome however; these last couple have seemed a little lacking; Ironhide looks weird (inexcusably weird, considering the 3p companies have been able to nail the look), tracks is very 'open' all over his torso, hot rod is a complete car wreck, I think shockwave lucked out that he was so simple, but the engineering on him is inspired though

[Ironhidensh]

I know I sound harsh in my criticism, but I feel it is justified. I'm a grown man in my 30's with a family. While I'm far from poor, I'm not made of money either. If I'm to spend MP level money on a toy, instead of my family, then it needs to be deserved. We know from previous figures, like Magnus, Sideswipe, and Bumblebee, that Tamara has the engineering ability to make a better figure. For some reason, they are not, and it is noticable. Tracks I'm still willing to get, but Ironhide and Hotrod are two huge fails to me. As they are two of my favorite characters, this is very upsetting to me.

[Sabrblade]

I believe they have due to a change in designer. Tracks with that giant gap and Ironhide with the odd proportions end up being the first MPs to truly be done without any assistance by Hasui.

Tracks has inaccurate proportions as well, being more slender and lean than his more stout animation model was.


It works for Road Rage who hasn't had cartoon model precedence, but Tracks did.