The Energon Pub

News Credits: 8 · Tue May 19, 2009 3:19 am

Randall K. Orton wrote:My plan is to make a 10 FP / 10 Strafe strafer with 10 STR just so she doesn't get stunned.

Ah, ok, after tinkering with the XP calculator, I realized that 15 million xp is a LOT. Most initial builds went to mid-L7 in fact. After a bit of tinkering to maximize, I went with this -

Tank with Gatling Gun

STR 10
INT 0
SPD 9
END 7
RNK 0
CRG 0
FP 10
SKL 3

Ram 9
Strafe 10

Thoughts -

Went with RNK 0 because Armor just doesn't do enough (anything, in fact) in my experience. Not to mention that it doesn't do anything vs tactics, which will trigger about 66% of the time or so each opponent's round.

Don't know if 7 END is a big waste. It was down to this or CRG, and I've heard from multiple people that CRG does nothing or close to it in the Arena.

Ram 9 is for redundancy purposes. I obviously want a Strafe to trigger since it'll deal more, but having a fallback secondary offensive tactic is better than Avoid (yuk) or just having to go with a normal attack in this world of SPD 9-10 everywhere. Plus, maybe someone will get cute and not run the full 10 STR (suicide imho) and I can get a couple of free shutouts.

Gatling Gun seems like it's the best weapon available period, I have no idea though.

wish you posted this info earlier, i went ram and avoid

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh shuks

Wed May 20, 2009 8:14 am

i've gone strafe and avoid (yes I am insane)
Time to test Jackie Fisher's doctrine of 'speed is armor', I hope it works (didn't at Jutland but anyway...)

Wed May 20, 2009 12:29 pm

what's the arena???

Wed May 20, 2009 1:00 pm

Here is the list of our participants. Wish them well. Our numbers may be a little less than 'Cons but we will show them who the champions of challenge will be.

Ashe5k
Korona

Str 10
Int 0
Spd 8
End 8
Rnk 6
Cou 10
Frp 3
Skl 3
--
Tk1 10
Tk2 0

Chocolate Thunder
Technofunk

Str 10
Int 1
Spd 6
End 10
Rnk 6
Cou 9
Frp 6
Skl 2
--
Tk1 0
Tk2 0

Conjorous
X-501

Str 10
Int 0
Spd 9
End 8
Rnk 6
Cou 9
Frp 0
Skl 0
--
Tk1 10
Tk2 6

Devast8or
ViceGrip

Str 10
Int 0
Spd 10
End 8
Rnk 4
Cou 8
Frp 6
Skl 2
--
Tk1 10
Tk2 0

Dragonslayer
Maximus Prime

Str 10
Int 0
Spd 7
End 5
Rnk 6
Cou 9
Frp 10
Skl 2
--
Tk1 8
Tk2 0

Electron
Rotorstorm

Str 10
Int 0
Spd 9
End 7
Rnk 6
Cou 0
Frp 10
Skl 3
--
Tk1 7
Tk2 6

Evolution Prime
Evolution Prime

Str 10
Int 0
Spd 9
End 7
Rnk 6
Cou 10
Frp 3
Skl 2
--
Tk1 10
Tk2 0

Firebird
Fender

Str 10
Int 0
Spd 10
End 7
Rnk 0
Cou 6
Frp 9
Skl 0
--
Tk1 6
Tk2 10

Kickyourassacons
Optimus Prime

Str 10
Int 0
Spd 10
End 7
Rnk 0
Cou 9
Frp 0
Skl 0
--
Tk1 9
Tk2 10

Lightblade
Shadow Saber

Str 4
Int 0
Spd 10
End 4
Rnk 0
Cou 10
Frp 9
Skl 4
--
Tk1 10
Tk2 7

Neo Crusader
Death's Harbinger

Str 8
Int 0
Spd 8
End 8
Rnk 5
Cou 0
Frp 9
Skl 4
--
Tk1 8
Tk2 8

Randall K. Orton
Stimulus Packagus

Str 10
Int 0
Spd 9
End 7
Rnk 0
Cou 0
Frp 10
Skl 3
--
Tk1 9
Tk2 10

The {Rage Bot}
GP Blades

Str 10
Int 0
Spd 8
End 5
Rnk 4
Cou 8
Frp 3
Skl 0
--
Tk1 10
Tk2 10

vaporretarder
Entropy

Str 10
Int 1
Spd 10
End 7
Rnk 0
Cou 8
Frp 6
Skl 3
--
Tk1 8
Tk2 5

Wed May 20, 2009 1:44 pm

wow that's a good number of bots with a lot of variation in set up, should make things interesting.

Any thoughts on which set up looks most promising?

Wed May 20, 2009 2:01 pm

Light Blade wrote:wow that's a good number of bots with a lot of variation in set up, should make things interesting.

Any thoughts on which set up looks most promising?

easy...ViceGrip :roll:

News Credits: 8 · Wed May 20, 2009 2:03 pm

Light Blade wrote:wow that's a good number of bots with a lot of variation in set up, should make things interesting.

Any thoughts on which set up looks most promising?

hopefully mine

i took randys advice about courage, so hopefully listening to him won't be my downfall

Good luck guys

Wed May 20, 2009 2:17 pm

I'm still sticking with the courage thing. I still have high stats where I want them and have rank at the highest armor level that doesn't get outrageous in price.

On a weapons related note, what are the better higher up weapons out there, in case I change my mind next round and rethink my strategy.

Wed May 20, 2009 2:17 pm

thanx to whoever donated 15 M my way... :lol:

Wed May 20, 2009 2:59 pm

Evolution Prime wrote:I'm still sticking with the courage thing. I still have high stats where I want them and have rank at the highest armor level that doesn't get outrageous in price.

On a weapons related note, what are the better higher up weapons out there, in case I change my mind next round and rethink my strategy.

XP has just come through, upgrade time!

As for weapons...
gattling gun and acid rain maker rifle have best damage (incredible to devastating)and no recharge but cost over €50,000, plus you need SK 3 FP 10 and SK 4 FP 9 respectively to wield them

for FP 2 there is something called the XS2 ionized null ray for €100. V. Heavy to devastating damage, but have never seen one in stock so don't know if you can get hold of one.

and our smartest bots with int of a whopping 1 point are Technofunk and Entropy :APPLAUSE:

you is well goodz in the brainz 8-}

Wed May 20, 2009 4:15 pm

Light Blade wrote:and our smartest bots with int of a whopping 1 point are Technofunk and Entropy you is well goodz in the brainz

we're gonna find out how 'smart' that 1 point is in INT :lol:

Wed May 20, 2009 4:46 pm

So is armor worth it?
i've put 4 tons of aluminum on, don't know if its better than iron or not.
Anyone have any knowledge they'd care to share with the class?

Wed May 20, 2009 5:30 pm

iron > aluminum

before reset occured, ceramic used to be the fo shizzle...but we'll need some other experienced opinions in here

Wed May 20, 2009 9:41 pm

devast8or wrote:
Light Blade wrote:and our smartest bots with int of a whopping 1 point are Technofunk and Entropy you is well goodz in the brainz

we're gonna find out how 'smart' that 1 point is in INT

yessir, I wanted to have a little bit o' smarts just in case....well in case there was a test afterward,...ya know, a pop-quiz

and I figured my build will hold it's own where it's at...although if there is a down-time where we get to re-order our stats, I came up with a better and even more rounded build that uses ALMOST ALL of the 15mil Energon, and still being 3 upgrades away from level 7
(it's below for anyone to look at just in case ya wanted to copy it down if we get a re-set chance later)
:APPLAUSE:

Experience spent: 14,984,000xp
Number of upgrades: 56
Level: 6 (+3 to L7)
Alt-mode - Fighter

Strength 10
Intelligence 0
speed 10
Endurance 9
Rank 1
Courage 0
Firepower 8
Skill 5

Avoid 8
Strafe 5

kinda looks better than what I have now, :-/ any thoughts?

Wed May 20, 2009 11:44 pm

being a strafer, i would've thought you'd want to swap strength & fpr around :???:

Thu May 21, 2009 4:08 am

Also what is the SK 5 for? might be better to put some of those points into your tactics.

Why have you said no to courage? this stat seems to be an all or nothing thing amongst the setups - I'd like to know why you haven't gone with it.

Thu May 21, 2009 10:23 am

Light Blade wrote:Also what is the SK 5 for? might be better to put some of those points into your tactics.

Why have you said no to courage? this stat seems to be an all or nothing thing amongst the setups - I'd like to know why you haven't gone with it.

the above stats is what I'd use if my current build doesn't work out good enough for me.

The sk5 is just to get better weapons.

as for the courage, I have some on my current build, and i took it off for this one just if we get a reset period I can change that stuff around to see which worked better.

News Credits: 8 · Thu May 21, 2009 11:23 am

i hope you guys didn't put your best guys into the tourney, because we still need top characters to help pullin in the wins for people who arent in the tourney

Thu May 21, 2009 12:11 pm

Electron wrote:i hope you guys didn't put your best guys into the tourney, because we still need top characters to help pullin in the wins for people who arent in the tourney

I put my lowest bot in the tourney,....although I DID pull my low level 2 bots back down to the highest possible level 1 build to rake in more energon for this, just in case I need it. :-?

Thu May 21, 2009 12:25 pm

Electron wrote:i hope you guys didn't put your best guys into the tourney, because we still need top characters to help pullin in the wins for people who arent in the tourney

EP was my highest XP guy but there were others behind him that weren't far off so no drop off here.

Thu May 21, 2009 12:41 pm

vaporretarder wrote:
Light Blade wrote:Also what is the SK 5 for? might be better to put some of those points into your tactics.

Why have you said no to courage? this stat seems to be an all or nothing thing amongst the setups - I'd like to know why you haven't gone with it.

the above stats is what I'd use if my current build doesn't work out good enough for me.

The sk5 is just to get better weapons.

as for the courage, I have some on my current build, and i took it off for this one just if we get a reset period I can change that stuff around to see which worked better.

at FP 10 best weapon is gatling gun which only needs SK 3. Thus you should put those two upgrade points elsewhere.

Thu May 21, 2009 1:10 pm

You could go Omega Charges route and buy a Fusion Canon. As such, he had no strength thus no armor and I proceded to pound him into the ground.

Thu May 21, 2009 1:37 pm

Light Blade wrote:
at FP 10 best weapon is gatling gun which only needs SK 3. Thus you should put those two upgrade points elsewhere.

I never even thought of what weapons to go with a SK5 build haha,...just checked,...there isn't any haha...oh well, like I said this is if the build I have now doesn't work well, I'll change it up.

I think I might have built better this time here below, (I made sure to take into account the skill level of the weapons this time haha) #-o

Experience spent: 14,996,000xp
Number of upgrades: 57
Level: 6 (+2 to L7)
Alt-mode - Fighter

Strength 10
Intelligence 0
Speed 10
Endurance 9
Rank 2
Courage 0
Firepower 8
Skill 2

Avoid 9
Strafe 7

Weapon - Laser-Blazer Broadsword (heavy to incredible damage)
Armor - 10 Tons of Duranium (or as much as I could afford haha)

Thu May 21, 2009 3:28 pm

Don

vaporretarder wrote:
Light Blade wrote:
at FP 10 best weapon is gatling gun which only needs SK 3. Thus you should put those two upgrade points elsewhere.

I never even thought of what weapons to go with a SK5 build haha,...just checked,...there isn't any haha...oh well, like I said this is if the build I have now doesn't work well, I'll change it up.

I think I might have built better this time here below, (I made sure to take into account the skill level of the weapons this time haha)

Experience spent: 14,996,000xp
Number of upgrades: 57
Level: 6 (+2 to L7)
Alt-mode - Fighter

Strength 10
Intelligence 0
Speed 10
Endurance 9
Rank 2
Courage 0
Firepower 8
Skill 2

Avoid 9
Strafe 7

Weapon - Laser-Blazer Broadsword (heavy to incredible damage)
Armor - 10 Tons of Duranium (or as much as I could afford haha)

Don't know how much good rank two will do you and I'd possibly reverse the Strafe and avoid, my fights are showing that avoid doesn't activate enough to be a reliable dodge.
can't tell how much good endurance does

Do consider courage as it does seem to have a decent effect in the arena.