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The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Discuss anything about the Transformers cartoons and comics! You can discuss anything from G1 to Cybertron as well as the comics from Marvel, Dreamwave, IDW and more!

Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Saberspark model H. » Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:30 pm

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I just got to let this out the whole thing is on youtube I don't care if someone already posted this but I just don't have the time to read the thread. Here's the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YvzZ2N0JSI
There's nine parts. This ties in with the end of Transformers Cybertron if you rember Prime proposed that they build space bridges to every planet or something but DANG this was good I can't wait to see the series. Prowl was bad ass when he goes battle mode. Prime is recourseful. BB is hilarious. Bulkhead was awesomely funny when he tried to catch the allspark "I said I GOT IT."
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Tekka » Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:44 pm

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Just watch his expression change when it happens. It is pure gutter-humour gold.

I did that last evening, since you posted that and I was so ashamed of myself for missing such a gutter-gem! I watched it over and over again, and laughed til I cried! Thanks for pointing that out to me! *marvels at your guttertude* :)

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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:40 pm

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Dr. Heavy B wrote:i found this on youtube. its a version of the animated opeer. i don't know if its legit but it shows megatrons alt mode at the end

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gqhN7-yBSQ


I already posted that vid on page 32. Theres also an other one there check it out.


Actually, after comparing this one to the first one you posted, Sto, they are slightly different.

Yours is like this:
Prime transforms - Bulkhead transforms - BB transforms - Ratchet transforms - SS transforms - Megs' face fades - logo.

Heavy's is like this:
Prime transforms - Bulkhead transforms - BB transforms - SS transforms - Megs transforms - logo.

Yours has Ratchet transforming and Megs' face fading, while Heavy's lacks both of those but has Megs transforming.

Not only that, but yours is the same one as the one previously reported here:
http://seibertron.com/news/view.php?id= ... f_keyword=
Which clearly states that Megs' transformation is seen, yet it isn't.



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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:06 pm

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Btw, Sto, the third one you posted, the one linked with the past series openings, is the true TF:A opening.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:49 am

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Sabrblade wrote:Btw, Sto, the third one you posted, the one linked with the past series openings, is the true TF:A opening.


Which would make it the 3rd socalled offical opening that I've seen.Guess we'll just wait a few mpre hours to find out for sure.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Pyrostrata » Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:58 am

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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Omega Charge » Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:24 am

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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Kryptoniteking » Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:04 am

safetybeeich wrote:OK Reality Check
THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT CONTINUATION ISSUES BETWEEN THE NEW SHOW AND THE 80'S SHOW ARE 30 SOMETHING GUYS WHO HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO BUT whine ON A WEB SITE (I guess this must include me).
but relay people this is with out a doubt the best TF show Since the beat wars.
every compliant i have read so far has either to do with continually or appearance.

BUT we (30's male) are not the target market. Kids are. My 7 year old son likes it way better then Energon or Ceibertron.

So stop your whining and appreciate that this is finally getting a new generation of TF fans involved. AEC did not grab the imagination or interest of kids. The new TF show does. that is all that matters.


I knew people that were 7 or younger when the original aired. Those same people have voiced their opinions to me about the show as well... They don't like it.

omega666 wrote:Back then, animation was treated like works of art it seems and now "Alright, let's go with this poopy style and call it 'new design'. Kids will love it." It's the dumbing down of animation and the dialogue is just talking down at kids. This show is meant for kids and that's fine but I bet that kids are only watching because it's probably the only thing on and not because they actually like it.


Also, take a look at the Hanna-Barbera works over the years. "Tom & Jerry" for one (now a property of Warner Bros.) is another example. Now, WB is doing their best to revive the old HB style with the new "Tom & Jerry Tales" show.

I've shown a few episodes of "Battle of the Planets" to some 7 year-olds and they've asked me what TV station they could watch it on (to my surprise). So, that whole "target audience, what kids like to see today" is a load of BS.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Saberspark model H. » Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:59 am

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I just saw the First ep on TV not so action filled as the one hour special but still we saw Megatron again and now he has his G1 head back. Megatron will destroy you with his army of pocket bots bwah ha ha. :twisted:
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:02 am

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Kryptoniteking wrote:I've shown a few episodes of "Battle of the Planets" to some 7 year-olds and they've asked me what TV station they could watch it on (to my surprise). So, that whole "target audience, what kids like to see today" is a load of BS.


Wasn't "Battle of the Planets" a dubbed version of that show that kepted being redubbed into english over and over again?


Anyway, episode 4 just aired and I liked it... kinda. The whole slumber party idea was sorta lame, but bringing Megs back to life was genius. He's proved he can be a threat even when he's just a head. My hats' off to Burton for his performance. He does well as he plays Megatron. However, the Angry Archer wasn't how I pictured. He was bumbling, less-than-bright, and was basically the cliché "evil genius sidekick/lackey". But it was nice to see more of Prowl's personality. His relationship with Bumblebee reminds me of Dinobot and Rattrap (and yet everyone was comparing him to Cheetor). Overall, I can't wait till the next episode.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Saberspark model H. » Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:10 am

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It was cool to see The second episode. Megatron is gonna be bad @$$ when he gets a new body. I can't wait to see more of the decepticons.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Predacon Rampage » Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:15 am

I watched the first episode, it was good, and it showed that the human villians are going to be pathetic. I also liked it when Prowl was doing a Gaara from Naruto, makes him more ninja like. :D
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Solrac333 » Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:28 am

Kryptoniteking wrote:
safetybeeich wrote:OK Reality Check
THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT CONTINUATION ISSUES BETWEEN THE NEW SHOW AND THE 80'S SHOW ARE 30 SOMETHING GUYS WHO HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO BUT whine ON A WEB SITE (I guess this must include me).
but relay people this is with out a doubt the best TF show Since the beat wars.
every compliant i have read so far has either to do with continually or appearance.

BUT we (30's male) are not the target market. Kids are. My 7 year old son likes it way better then Energon or Ceibertron.

So stop your whining and appreciate that this is finally getting a new generation of TF fans involved. AEC did not grab the imagination or interest of kids. The new TF show does. that is all that matters.


I knew people that were 7 or younger when the original aired. Those same people have voiced their opinions to me about the show as well... They don't like it.


Yeah, a lot of people I know don't like it either. I would rather watch Captain Planet and the Planeteers. Remember that show?
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Highbeam » Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:29 am

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I dunno, I was rather disappointed by the new episode. Yeah, it was kinda cute and Megs is still evil even as a lil 'bot, but...I dunno, was the intro really necessary with that Robin Hood guy? Oi... I am still rolling at the 'bots playing twister though :P
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Autobot032 » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:16 pm

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Well, yet another hit.

Granted they put more action than story in, which bothered me a bit (I liked the idea of an actual story running in the background of the movie.) but...I'm giving it a solid 8.5-9.0 out 10.0 (the movie got a solid 10.0 from me.)

I was actually excited to see Sari again, she's absolutely adorable and she rocks. It's amazing, they finally have a human character worth getting attached to.

I do love how the Autobots interact with the law enforcement. Like Batman without the vengeful vigilante angle. (Which is great for Batman, but would have never worked here.)

The Archer was (as stated earlier) irritating, but Prime's smirk as he caught him was priceless.

The whole slumber party angle looked stupid at first, but quickly went into Coolsville. Playing Twister was absolutely priceless.

And even though it was a bit hammy, Prowl's dialogue is easy enough to swallow. It's still not campy or cheesy. It's more of a PSA sounding thing...

Even though this episode wasn't quite up to par as the pilot, it's still proof that this is one great show.

And...I hate to admit this, but the Autobot toys are growing on me. Like a bad rash. Voyager Prime, Ratchet, Bumblebee and Bulkhead are mine, mine, mine. Prowl's still iffy, and Cybertron Mode Optimus is a DEFINITE pass. On the Decepticon side, however....Starscream and Cybertron Mode Megatron are must buys.

Dangit. I don't know if I'm sucker, puppet, easily swayed by a cartoon or what, but Animated has me in it's clutches. Grr...

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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Predaprince » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:35 pm

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Although the beginning of the episode with the human criminal was pathetic and I'm confident that even kids ages 3 and up would agree with that statement, this new episode did get better as it went on.

I have a mixed feeling about the set-up of this show. I do agree with the statement made that it is better than the A/E/C series and I enjoy that they are incorporating vocab, items, and plots from G1 - BM but it still has to show a little more development in the advancement of plot.

I will state that there is potential with this series, which is a lot more than I can ever say about A - C.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Moonbase2 » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:51 pm

I have to say as far as the stories and characters go I'm fine with the show. Even the animation, while not my ideal, is ok. The only real thing that really irks me is the transformation sequences. I don't know, I guess I just want them to be a bit more involved. Prowl had the neatest transformation of them all, IMO, in G1, and here, like the rest, just does a magic spin and they've transformed. Let's not forget the gimmick that makes Transformers different.

But that's my biggest gripe. The show is cute, and I'm really liking Megatron's character a lot. When Starscream shows up again he's in deep doo doo, for sure!
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Autobot032 » Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:26 pm

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Moonbase2 wrote:I have to say as far as the stories and characters go I'm fine with the show. Even the animation, while not my ideal, is ok. The only real thing that really irks me is the transformation sequences. I don't know, I guess I just want them to be a bit more involved. Prowl had the neatest transformation of them all, IMO, in G1, and here, like the rest, just does a magic spin and they've transformed. Let's not forget the gimmick that makes Transformers different.

But that's my biggest gripe. The show is cute, and I'm really liking Megatron's character a lot. When Starscream shows up again he's in deep doo doo, for sure!


I think part of the reason the transformations are done the way they are, is to save money. If you could spend all your money and show the full sequence on one TF, or save your money and show bits and pieces of transformations for all of 'em in the same scene for the same price...which one would you do? And of course, we'd all say "Save the money". I can't fault them for cutting corners to save money on that part of it. (I'm pretty sure it costs a pretty penny to produce those scenes)

Although I am worried that they might cut corners in other parts of the show, though I'm hoping that won't be the case at all.

Another thing about the transformation sequences that bother me is the Anime/Poke'mon-esque colored hyper background crap during the sequences. Again, I realize it saves money, not to mention keeps in step with the Japanese feel, but it's just ridiculous.

Still, after watching Beast Machines on YouTube (which I've yet to complete...) I have to say that any TF show is better than that. I'm stunned that they went from Emmy winning material to "I *AM* Transformed!"...that will always make my brain hurt.

And on it's own merits, TF: A is a great show, but when you compare it to BM...it's the Citizen Kane of TF shows.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Cascadia » Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:32 pm

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There were some aspects of this episode that were pretty funny. Prowl's seriousness vs. Bumblebee's need for fun along with the Twister game. I am still working on trying to get used to the new series. Animation is not great but the story gets better as the episode goes along.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Defcon! » Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:35 pm

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I'll get used to the animation since the first few episodes are out of the way. Other than that i like it! :D
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Omega Charge » Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:47 pm

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I've really enjoyed it so far. I can't wait till Megatron escapes. Who I don't like is Sari and to a lesser extent, Bumblebee. I don't like how Sari has that key and can do anything. And Bumblebee's character almost matches those horns on his head. :D
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Autobot032 » Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:39 pm

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Omega Charge wrote:I've really enjoyed it so far. I can't wait till Megatron escapes. Who I don't like is Sari and to a lesser extent, Bumblebee. I don't like how Sari has that key and can do anything. And Bumblebee's character almost matches those horns on his head. :D


Aww, that's a shame! Sari and Bumblebee are two of the absolute best characters in the show.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Omega Charge » Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:41 pm

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Omega Charge wrote:I've really enjoyed it so far. I can't wait till Megatron escapes. Who I don't like is Sari and to a lesser extent, Bumblebee. I don't like how Sari has that key and can do anything. And Bumblebee's character almost matches those horns on his head. :D


Aww, that's a shame! Sari and Bumblebee are two of the absolute best characters in the show.

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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Autobot032 » Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:56 pm

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Omega Charge wrote:I've really enjoyed it so far. I can't wait till Megatron escapes. Who I don't like is Sari and to a lesser extent, Bumblebee. I don't like how Sari has that key and can do anything. And Bumblebee's character almost matches those horns on his head. :D


Aww, that's a shame! Sari and Bumblebee are two of the absolute best characters in the show.

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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Tekka » Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:02 pm

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I wonder if people would react the same way to Sari if she had been a boy instead. If it had been a male instead of a female it would probably be perceived as the second coming of Daniel, only worse.

Part of me can't help but think the short hem dress and the loli appeal contribute somewhat.

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