The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!
Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!
I think it is my fandom of Megaman and one of the few who liked Teen Titans on Seibertron, which makes me like the animation style
I've never been like alot people "Japanese style uber pwns American style" I love all good styles. Nothing will be as ugly and weird looking as Beast Machines style of Maximals. Hopefully...
I've never been like alot people "Japanese style uber pwns American style" I love all good styles. Nothing will be as ugly and weird looking as Beast Machines style of Maximals. Hopefully...

-
Predacon Rampage - Minibot
- Posts: 184
- Joined: Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:32 pm
Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!
Cormaster628 wrote:
the whole Unicron trilogy did nothing but disgrace one of the most popular characters in TF history! They gave him a krusty the clown voice, and made him this bad guy with compassion who looks up to his leader, wants his leader to be proud of him, and at the same time wants to be a good guy. I just know when he first spoke in Armada, I was immediatly pissed off.
Wow, I I havent seen TF animated, but I have to defend my favorite Starscream. I love the Armada Starscream character development, his voice is a lot more tolorable than G1. I am just watching the G1 series and the G1 Starscream is a wimp, I thought he would be a lot more powerful and smarter.
Here is my TF animated question. Do the Autobots usually attack first like they do in G1?
- Energon
- Targetmaster
- Posts: 677
- News Credits: 23
- Joined: Thu Oct 18, 2007 2:34 pm
Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!
- Motto: "Today is a good day to die......but the day is not yet over!"
Cormaster628 wrote:Starscream is straight G1...where did they get that voice from? He acctually sounds like Chris Latta!
Cormaster628 wrote:Wow well I'm impressed. Who would of thought Spongebob Squarepants was really Chris Lata Re-incarnated?
Cormaster628 wrote:well, this is the best Starscream yet! Anymore new episodes yet?
Dude I'll agree that Animated Starscream is the best Starscream we've gotten in a long time but the guy voiceing him is no Chris Latta.
He may even be as good of a voice actor...since I'm not very familur with his work I wont comment on that but as good as his Starscream imersonation is it's still far from the original.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach

- sto_vo_kor_2000
- Guardian Of Seibertron
- Posts: 6888
- News Credits: 1
- Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:01 am
Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!
- Motto: "Today is a good day to die......but the day is not yet over!"
EnergonCube wrote:Here is my TF animated question. Do the Autobots usually attack first like they do in G1?
That depends on what episode your talking about.For the most part the Decepticon were always in the middle of some sceme or attacking others when the Autobots attacked.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach

- sto_vo_kor_2000
- Guardian Of Seibertron
- Posts: 6888
- News Credits: 1
- Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:01 am
Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!
Armada Starscream voice was okay, but he was a very emo cry baby, compared to his ruthless original self. He wanted to kill humans and Autobots everytime, but he was stopped by Megatron.

-
Predacon Rampage - Minibot
- Posts: 184
- Joined: Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:32 pm
Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!
- Motto: "I'm grade-A, 100% prime-cut final boss! I'm going to take over the world any day now!"
- Weapon: Multi-Function Sword
Animated Starscream is more G1 Starscream than G1 Starscream. If G1 Starscream had to fight that many Autobots at the same time he would have run away like a scared little kitten.
So far the new guy is everything the original should have been but never was.
Starscream spared enough humans of his own accord. Like in Desertion of the Dinobots Part 1. He threatened that scientist then just let him go. At the end of the day, nobody was allowed to die on the show anyhow.
So far the new guy is everything the original should have been but never was.

Predacon Rampage wrote:Armada Starscream voice was okay, but he was a very emo cry baby, compared to his ruthless original self. He wanted to kill humans and Autobots everytime, but he was stopped by Megatron.
Starscream spared enough humans of his own accord. Like in Desertion of the Dinobots Part 1. He threatened that scientist then just let him go. At the end of the day, nobody was allowed to die on the show anyhow.

-
Tekka - Guardian Of Seibertron
- Posts: 7180
- News Credits: 2
- Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:14 am
- Location: Dark Side of The Light
Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!
- Motto: "Today is a good day to die......but the day is not yet over!"
Tekka wrote:Animated Starscream is more G1 Starscream than G1 Starscream.
That make's no sence at all.
Tekka wrote: If G1 Starscream had to fight that many Autobots at the same time he would have run away like a scared little kitten.
Very true........and that's was his main character trait.
Tekka wrote:So far the new guy is everything the original should have been but never was.![]()
I can agree with that as well but to be 100% honest I liked G1 Starscream just the way he was.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach

- sto_vo_kor_2000
- Guardian Of Seibertron
- Posts: 6888
- News Credits: 1
- Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:01 am
Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!
Tekka wrote:Animated Starscream is more G1 Starscream than G1 Starscream. If G1 Starscream had to fight that many Autobots at the same time he would have run away like a scared little kitten.
So far the new guy is everything the original should have been but never was.Predacon Rampage wrote:Armada Starscream voice was okay, but he was a very emo cry baby, compared to his ruthless original self. He wanted to kill humans and Autobots everytime, but he was stopped by Megatron.
Starscream spared enough humans of his own accord. Like in Desertion of the Dinobots Part 1. He threatened that scientist then just let him go. At the end of the day, nobody was allowed to die on the show anyhow.
Starscream was afraid to fight outnumbered, but when it was even, Megatron would want to retreat and Starscream still wanted to fight. The movie made up for their no kills , both Megs and Starscream.

Starscream also wasn't afraid to take on Megatron if he threatened to replace him, that is one of my most favorite moments in the Nightbird episode, when he punched him straight in the face.
Animated Starscream seemed afraid of this Megatron to even express his feelings towards being the leader.
You can't say Megatron is much different from Starscream, power hungry and will beg for thier life in times were they have lost.
Last edited by Predacon Rampage on Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:01 am, edited 4 times in total.

-
Predacon Rampage - Minibot
- Posts: 184
- Joined: Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:32 pm
Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!
- Motto: "I'm grade-A, 100% prime-cut final boss! I'm going to take over the world any day now!"
- Weapon: Multi-Function Sword
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Tekka wrote:Animated Starscream is more G1 Starscream than G1 Starscream.
That make's no sence at all.
G1 Starscream was supposed to be powerful, intelligent, competent and evil, everything Animated Starscream is. That's how he has been marketed for as long as I can remember in everything but his cartoon potrayal. In that case he was weak, stupid, incompetent and cowardly. Throughout the show Starscream was little more than an annoyance to Megatron and the other Decepticons, who frequently mock him throughout the series. The only time he ever accomplishes something worthwhile is when he's a ghost and then it was short lived.

-
Tekka - Guardian Of Seibertron
- Posts: 7180
- News Credits: 2
- Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:14 am
- Location: Dark Side of The Light
Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!
- Motto: "Today is a good day to die......but the day is not yet over!"
Tekka wrote:sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Tekka wrote:Animated Starscream is more G1 Starscream than G1 Starscream.
That make's no sence at all.
G1 Starscream was supposed to be powerful, intelligent, competent and evil, everything Animated Starscream is. That's how he has been marketed for as long as I can remember in everything but his cartoon potrayal. In that case he was weak, stupid, incompetent and cowardly. Throughout the show Starscream was little more than an annoyance to Megatron and the other Decepticons, who frequently mock him throughout the series. The only time he ever accomplishes something worthwhile is when he's a ghost and then it was short lived.
Dude.... as powerful, intelligent and evil as Comic book Starscream was [ I'm guessing thats what you ment] he was hardly competent.G1 CB Starscream failed at ever atempt to gain control of the Decepticon from Megatron,Shockwave or Scopornox.
His scheme's and plans may have been much better then his cartoon counterpart but what does it really matter if he CB Starscream was more powerful, intelligent and evil if he was still as "Incompetent" and failed every time just like toon Starscream?????
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach

- sto_vo_kor_2000
- Guardian Of Seibertron
- Posts: 6888
- News Credits: 1
- Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:01 am
Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!
The underbase was his biggest accomplishment through.


-
Predacon Rampage - Minibot
- Posts: 184
- Joined: Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:32 pm
Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!
- Motto: "I'm grade-A, 100% prime-cut final boss! I'm going to take over the world any day now!"
- Weapon: Multi-Function Sword
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:His scheme's and plans may have been much better then his cartoon counterpart but what does it really matter if he CB Starscream was more powerful, intelligent and evil if he was still as "Incompetent" and failed every time just like toon Starscream?????
Because no childrens villain is ever going to succeed, even the new guy. Failure doesn't make you incompetent, it just makes you a failure.


-
Tekka - Guardian Of Seibertron
- Posts: 7180
- News Credits: 2
- Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:14 am
- Location: Dark Side of The Light
Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!
Tekka wrote:sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:His scheme's and plans may have been much better then his cartoon counterpart but what does it really matter if he CB Starscream was more powerful, intelligent and evil if he was still as "Incompetent" and failed every time just like toon Starscream?????
Because no childrens villain is ever going to succeed, even the new guy. Failure doesn't make you incompetent, it just makes you a failure.
No villian seems to succeed children or otherwise in fiction, like it started with Lucifer.

-
Predacon Rampage - Minibot
- Posts: 184
- Joined: Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:32 pm
Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!
- Motto: "I'm grade-A, 100% prime-cut final boss! I'm going to take over the world any day now!"
- Weapon: Multi-Function Sword
Predacon Rampage wrote:No villian seems to succeed children or otherwise in fiction, like it started with Lucifer.
I think the jury is still out on that one. Lucifer might get the one up on YHWH yet. You never know.


-
Tekka - Guardian Of Seibertron
- Posts: 7180
- News Credits: 2
- Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:14 am
- Location: Dark Side of The Light
Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!
Tekka wrote:Predacon Rampage wrote:No villian seems to succeed children or otherwise in fiction, like it started with Lucifer.
I think the jury is still out on that one. Lucifer might get the one up on YHWH yet. You never know.
Well since I just mean the story (I'm non-believer) he failed their.


-
Predacon Rampage - Minibot
- Posts: 184
- Joined: Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:32 pm
Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!
- Motto: "Today is a good day to die......but the day is not yet over!"
Predacon Rampage wrote:The underbase was his biggest accomplishment through.
And he ultimatly failed there too.
Tekka wrote:Failure doesn't make you incompetent, it just makes you a failure.
Your right a failure doesn't make you incompetent....but repeatitive failure does indead make you incompetent.
And both G1 toon and comic book Starscreams had over 4 million years of failure's in their score cards.

Predacon Rampage wrote:Tekka wrote:Predacon Rampage wrote:No villian seems to succeed children or otherwise in fiction, like it started with Lucifer.
I think the jury is still out on that one. Lucifer might get the one up on YHWH yet. You never know.
Well since I just mean the story (I'm non-believer) he failed their.
But the stories end hasnt been finished yet

Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach

- sto_vo_kor_2000
- Guardian Of Seibertron
- Posts: 6888
- News Credits: 1
- Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:01 am
Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!
But the stories end hasnt been finished yet
Not like anyone is going to continue it.


-
Predacon Rampage - Minibot
- Posts: 184
- Joined: Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:32 pm
Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!
- Motto: "Today is a good day to die......but the day is not yet over!"
Predacon Rampage wrote:
But the stories end hasnt been finished yet
Not like anyone is going to continue it.
That depends on your point of view.....some say it's written with each passing day.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach

- sto_vo_kor_2000
- Guardian Of Seibertron
- Posts: 6888
- News Credits: 1
- Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:01 am
Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!
Anyways lets get off christian mythlogy and back to Transformers mythlogy. 
Sorry typo.

Sorry typo.


-
Predacon Rampage - Minibot
- Posts: 184
- Joined: Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:32 pm
Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!
- Motto: "Today is a good day to die......but the day is not yet over!"
Predacon Rampage wrote:Anyways lets get off christian mythlogy and back to Transformers mythlogy.
Sorry typo.
No prob

Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach

- sto_vo_kor_2000
- Guardian Of Seibertron
- Posts: 6888
- News Credits: 1
- Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:01 am
Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!
- Motto: "Autobots just BORE me!"
- Weapon: Flamethrower Cannons
Cormaster628 wrote:Starscream is straight G1...where did they get that voice from? He acctually sounds like Chris Latta! Is that his son voicing him or something? About time we didn't have a Krusty the clown sounding starscream!
Believe it or not, that is the very same voice actor that does Spongebob Squarepants! He appears to have done some G1-type research for the part, cuz he does Latta some serious justice with that screechy whiny voice!

Cannabis Prime wrote:I didn't know a super-sonic jet could park on the grass like that!
Caboose wrote:Time is not made out of lines! Time is made out of circles. That is why clocks are round!
The First Lady of Rage on the Twincast Podcast! http://www.seibertron.com/podcast/
Desperately seeking: Individual weapons (flash included) and missiles for G1 Reflector! PM me if ya got em!
-
Pyrostrata - Podcast Staff
- Posts: 3001
- Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:59 pm
- Location: Missouri...Land where dreams wither and die!
- Strength: 8
- Intelligence: 10
- Speed: 9
- Endurance: 7
- Rank: 7
- Courage: 10
- Firepower: 6
- Skill: 9
Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!
- Motto: "Can't do a job halfway. What's worth doing is worth doing well, I say."
- Weapon: Saber Blade
Cormaster628 wrote:the whole Unicron trilogy did nothing but disgrace one of the most popular characters in TF history! They gave him a krusty the clown voice, and made him this bad guy with compassion who looks up to his leader, wants his leader to be proud of him, and at the same time wants to be a good guy. I know he sacrificed himself in Armada, and then came back with amnesia in Energon, and well I never finished Energon, and I only watched one episode of cybertron, so I have no idea where they took his character.
Before Animated aired, Cybertron Starscream was the closest thing to G1 Starscream yet, minus the stupidity. In Cybertron, he was loyal to Megs at first, but was soon tired of following him and began to plot behind Megs' back. Unlike his G1 self, he kept his treachery a secret from everyone until much later. He sought the power of the Cyber Planet Keys for himself.
First, he imprisoned ALL the Decepticons, minus himself and few others, in a force field in outer space. Then he unleashed an army of unnamed generic-character Decepticons and lead a full-scale attack on Earth. Both the Autobots and the military went on the counterattack, but had to retreat. With so many Decepticon under Starscream's command, the Autobots decided to leave Earth to the Speed Planet and take their CPKeys and the Omega Lock with them. Starscream wouldn't have that. He attacked the autobot Evac, who was carrying the Earth CPKey, and went on a suicide mission to battle ALL the Autobots alone. He took out each of them one-by-one and was nearly killed by Optimus. However, unlike BW Dinobot, Screamer fought dirty. When Prime dropped the Omega Lock and Earth CPKey, both Screamer and Prime went after it. However Starscream was losing power fast and was on the verge of death. But ahe looked down and saw a light of opportunity. Down below him were the Autobots' human friends. Starscream, knowing Optimus would save them, fired a direct shot at them. Optimus jumped in front of the blast at the last second, saving them, but at a deadly price. Starscream took this chance to grab the Omega Lock and Earth CPKey and escape back to his hideout.
Later He inserted the Earth Key into the Omega Lock. With three keys now in the Lock, an image of the Grand Black Hole appeared in the sky of all the worlds, revealing itself to everyone. Not only that, but Starscream took the power unleashed by the Lock to increase his size to gigantic proportions. My guess is he was way taller than G1 Metroplex and Trypticon, but not as tall as G1 Fort Max and Scorponok. But anyway, he was enormous and now wore a crown similar to the one worn by his G1 self in the G1 movie. He easily defeated all the Autobots and Decepticons (who had broken free of the force field by this time). But with the sudden arrival of the new Autobot Wing Saber, he was beaten when Prime and Wing Saber merged into Prime's Sonic Wing Mode.
After this failure, Starscream went into hiding only to reveal himself later and stole energy directly from Primus, becoming equal with him in size and power. He was now as large as both Primus and Unicron. He went one-on-one with the deity and was winning easily. But alas, he would not prevail. Primus awoke and fought back, using Cybertron's moons as flail-weapons and defeating Starscream, who disappeared again.
He would reappear later once the last CPKey was found and, in the end, had a one-on-one fight with Galvatron. Both were evenly matched, neither one seemed to take more damage than the other, nor would they surrender. Both of them channeled all their power within themselves and came at each other. The reaction was so incredible that time and space itself was rended by the final explosion. Starscream was hurtled into another dimension along with the interferring Sideways and Soundwave, leaving only his crown floating through space, which was taken by Galvatron. Later, his presence would be discovered by the Autobot Wing Saber who told Optimus he was going track him down. Optimus sent him back up. In the end, he was still considered a real threat.
That Starscream and this new Animated one are the best Starscreams since G1.
"When there's gold feathers, punch behind you!!"
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
-
Sabrblade - God Of Transformers
- Posts: 39805
- News Credits: 456
- Joined: Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:22 pm
- Location: Tampa, FL
- Strength: 7
- Intelligence: 10
- Speed: 7
- Endurance: 8
- Rank: 9
- Courage: 8
- Firepower: 7
- Skill: 9
Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!
Sabrblade wrote:Cormaster628 wrote:the whole Unicron trilogy did nothing but disgrace one of the most popular characters in TF history! They gave him a krusty the clown voice, and made him this bad guy with compassion who looks up to his leader, wants his leader to be proud of him, and at the same time wants to be a good guy. I know he sacrificed himself in Armada, and then came back with amnesia in Energon, and well I never finished Energon, and I only watched one episode of cybertron, so I have no idea where they took his character.
Before Animated aired, Cybertron Starscream was the closest thing to G1 Starscream yet, minus the stupidity.
(Snip)
That Starscream and this new Animated one are the best Starscreams since G1.
What episode did he battle Primus in? I'd like to watch that!
Nice summary by the way, congrat on making me want to watch a Cybertron episode.
-
Justicity - Godmaster
- Posts: 1679
- News Credits: 2
- Joined: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:45 pm
Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!
[quote="SabrbladeThat Starscream and this new Animated one are the best Starscreams since G1.[/quote]
Wow, I didn't know all that about Cybertron Starscream.
Go Starscream! Youre the man!
The characterization is more important than the voice.
Wow, I didn't know all that about Cybertron Starscream.
Go Starscream! Youre the man!
The characterization is more important than the voice.
- Energon
- Targetmaster
- Posts: 677
- News Credits: 23
- Joined: Thu Oct 18, 2007 2:34 pm
Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!
I like it.
I also love the theme song too.
I also love the theme song too.

- 0ptimus__Prime
- Minibot
- Posts: 132
- Joined: Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:51 pm
- Location: Cybertron
Return to Transformers Cartoons and Comics Forum
Who is online
Registered users: Bing [Bot], Bumblevivisector, Glyph, Google [Bot], Google Adsense [Bot], Google Feedfetcher, kuhlio, MSN [Bot], ScottyP, Yahoo [Bot]