The Energon Pub

[Predacon Rampage]

I think it is my fandom of Megaman and one of the few who liked Teen Titans on Seibertron, which makes me like the animation style

I've never been like alot people "Japanese style uber pwns American style" I love all good styles. Nothing will be as ugly and weird looking as Beast Machines style of Maximals. Hopefully...

[Energon]

the whole Unicron trilogy did nothing but disgrace one of the most popular characters in TF history! They gave him a krusty the clown voice, and made him this bad guy with compassion who looks up to his leader, wants his leader to be proud of him, and at the same time wants to be a good guy. I just know when he first spoke in Armada, I was immediatly pissed off.

Wow, I I havent seen TF animated, but I have to defend my favorite Starscream. I love the Armada Starscream character development, his voice is a lot more tolorable than G1. I am just watching the G1 series and the G1 Starscream is a wimp, I thought he would be a lot more powerful and smarter.

Here is my TF animated question. Do the Autobots usually attack first like they do in G1?

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Starscream is straight G1...where did they get that voice from? He acctually sounds like Chris Latta!

Wow well I'm impressed. Who would of thought Spongebob Squarepants was really Chris Lata Re-incarnated?

well, this is the best Starscream yet! Anymore new episodes yet?

Dude I'll agree that Animated Starscream is the best Starscream we've gotten in a long time but the guy voiceing him is no Chris Latta.

He may even be as good of a voice actor...since I'm not very familur with his work I wont comment on that but as good as his Starscream imersonation is it's still far from the original.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Here is my TF animated question. Do the Autobots usually attack first like they do in G1?

That depends on what episode your talking about.For the most part the Decepticon were always in the middle of some sceme or attacking others when the Autobots attacked.

[Predacon Rampage]

Armada Starscream voice was okay, but he was a very emo cry baby, compared to his ruthless original self. He wanted to kill humans and Autobots everytime, but he was stopped by Megatron.

[Tekka]

Animated Starscream is more G1 Starscream than G1 Starscream. If G1 Starscream had to fight that many Autobots at the same time he would have run away like a scared little kitten.

So far the new guy is everything the original should have been but never was.

Armada Starscream voice was okay, but he was a very emo cry baby, compared to his ruthless original self. He wanted to kill humans and Autobots everytime, but he was stopped by Megatron.

Starscream spared enough humans of his own accord. Like in Desertion of the Dinobots Part 1. He threatened that scientist then just let him go. At the end of the day, nobody was allowed to die on the show anyhow.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Animated Starscream is more G1 Starscream than G1 Starscream.

That make's no sence at all.

If G1 Starscream had to fight that many Autobots at the same time he would have run away like a scared little kitten.

Very true........and that's was his main character trait.

So far the new guy is everything the original should have been but never was.

I can agree with that as well but to be 100% honest I liked G1 Starscream just the way he was.

[Predacon Rampage]

Animated Starscream is more G1 Starscream than G1 Starscream. If G1 Starscream had to fight that many Autobots at the same time he would have run away like a scared little kitten.

So far the new guy is everything the original should have been but never was.

Armada Starscream voice was okay, but he was a very emo cry baby, compared to his ruthless original self. He wanted to kill humans and Autobots everytime, but he was stopped by Megatron.

Starscream spared enough humans of his own accord. Like in Desertion of the Dinobots Part 1. He threatened that scientist then just let him go. At the end of the day, nobody was allowed to die on the show anyhow.

Starscream was afraid to fight outnumbered, but when it was even, Megatron would want to retreat and Starscream still wanted to fight. The movie made up for their no kills , both Megs and Starscream.

Starscream also wasn't afraid to take on Megatron if he threatened to replace him, that is one of my most favorite moments in the Nightbird episode, when he punched him straight in the face.

Animated Starscream seemed afraid of this Megatron to even express his feelings towards being the leader.

You can't say Megatron is much different from Starscream, power hungry and will beg for thier life in times were they have lost.

[Tekka]

Animated Starscream is more G1 Starscream than G1 Starscream.

That make's no sence at all.

G1 Starscream was supposed to be powerful, intelligent, competent and evil, everything Animated Starscream is. That's how he has been marketed for as long as I can remember in everything but his cartoon potrayal. In that case he was weak, stupid, incompetent and cowardly. Throughout the show Starscream was little more than an annoyance to Megatron and the other Decepticons, who frequently mock him throughout the series. The only time he ever accomplishes something worthwhile is when he's a ghost and then it was short lived.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Animated Starscream is more G1 Starscream than G1 Starscream.

That make's no sence at all.

G1 Starscream was supposed to be powerful, intelligent, competent and evil, everything Animated Starscream is. That's how he has been marketed for as long as I can remember in everything but his cartoon potrayal. In that case he was weak, stupid, incompetent and cowardly. Throughout the show Starscream was little more than an annoyance to Megatron and the other Decepticons, who frequently mock him throughout the series. The only time he ever accomplishes something worthwhile is when he's a ghost and then it was short lived.

Dude.... as powerful, intelligent and evil as Comic book Starscream was [ I'm guessing thats what you ment] he was hardly competent.G1 CB Starscream failed at ever atempt to gain control of the Decepticon from Megatron,Shockwave or Scopornox.

His scheme's and plans may have been much better then his cartoon counterpart but what does it really matter if he CB Starscream was more powerful, intelligent and evil if he was still as "Incompetent" and failed every time just like toon Starscream?????

[Predacon Rampage]

The underbase was his biggest accomplishment through.

[Tekka]

His scheme's and plans may have been much better then his cartoon counterpart but what does it really matter if he CB Starscream was more powerful, intelligent and evil if he was still as "Incompetent" and failed every time just like toon Starscream?????

Because no childrens villain is ever going to succeed, even the new guy. Failure doesn't make you incompetent, it just makes you a failure.

[Predacon Rampage]

His scheme's and plans may have been much better then his cartoon counterpart but what does it really matter if he CB Starscream was more powerful, intelligent and evil if he was still as "Incompetent" and failed every time just like toon Starscream?????

Because no childrens villain is ever going to succeed, even the new guy. Failure doesn't make you incompetent, it just makes you a failure.

No villian seems to succeed children or otherwise in fiction, like it started with Lucifer.

[Tekka]

No villian seems to succeed children or otherwise in fiction, like it started with Lucifer.

I think the jury is still out on that one. Lucifer might get the one up on YHWH yet. You never know.

[Predacon Rampage]

No villian seems to succeed children or otherwise in fiction, like it started with Lucifer.

I think the jury is still out on that one. Lucifer might get the one up on YHWH yet. You never know.

Well since I just mean the story (I'm non-believer) he failed their.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

The underbase was his biggest accomplishment through.

And he ultimatly failed there too.

Failure doesn't make you incompetent, it just makes you a failure.

Your right a failure doesn't make you incompetent....but repeatitive failure does indead make you incompetent.

And both G1 toon and comic book Starscreams had over 4 million years of failure's in their score cards.

No villian seems to succeed children or otherwise in fiction, like it started with Lucifer.

I think the jury is still out on that one. Lucifer might get the one up on YHWH yet. You never know.

Well since I just mean the story (I'm non-believer) he failed their.

But the stories end hasnt been finished yet

[Predacon Rampage]

But the stories end hasnt been finished yet

Not like anyone is going to continue it.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

But the stories end hasnt been finished yet

Not like anyone is going to continue it.

That depends on your point of view.....some say it's written with each passing day.

[Predacon Rampage]

Anyways lets get off christian mythlogy and back to Transformers mythlogy.

Sorry typo.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Anyways lets get off christian mythlogy and back to Transformers mythlogy.

Sorry typo.

No prob

[Pyrostrata]

Starscream is straight G1...where did they get that voice from? He acctually sounds like Chris Latta! Is that his son voicing him or something? About time we didn't have a Krusty the clown sounding starscream!

Believe it or not, that is the very same voice actor that does Spongebob Squarepants! He appears to have done some G1-type research for the part, cuz he does Latta some serious justice with that screechy whiny voice!

[Sabrblade]

the whole Unicron trilogy did nothing but disgrace one of the most popular characters in TF history! They gave him a krusty the clown voice, and made him this bad guy with compassion who looks up to his leader, wants his leader to be proud of him, and at the same time wants to be a good guy. I know he sacrificed himself in Armada, and then came back with amnesia in Energon, and well I never finished Energon, and I only watched one episode of cybertron, so I have no idea where they took his character.

Before Animated aired, Cybertron Starscream was the closest thing to G1 Starscream yet, minus the stupidity. In Cybertron, he was loyal to Megs at first, but was soon tired of following him and began to plot behind Megs' back. Unlike his G1 self, he kept his treachery a secret from everyone until much later. He sought the power of the Cyber Planet Keys for himself.

First, he imprisoned ALL the Decepticons, minus himself and few others, in a force field in outer space. Then he unleashed an army of unnamed generic-character Decepticons and lead a full-scale attack on Earth. Both the Autobots and the military went on the counterattack, but had to retreat. With so many Decepticon under Starscream's command, the Autobots decided to leave Earth to the Speed Planet and take their CPKeys and the Omega Lock with them. Starscream wouldn't have that. He attacked the autobot Evac, who was carrying the Earth CPKey, and went on a suicide mission to battle ALL the Autobots alone. He took out each of them one-by-one and was nearly killed by Optimus. However, unlike BW Dinobot, Screamer fought dirty. When Prime dropped the Omega Lock and Earth CPKey, both Screamer and Prime went after it. However Starscream was losing power fast and was on the verge of death. But ahe looked down and saw a light of opportunity. Down below him were the Autobots' human friends. Starscream, knowing Optimus would save them, fired a direct shot at them. Optimus jumped in front of the blast at the last second, saving them, but at a deadly price. Starscream took this chance to grab the Omega Lock and Earth CPKey and escape back to his hideout.

Later He inserted the Earth Key into the Omega Lock. With three keys now in the Lock, an image of the Grand Black Hole appeared in the sky of all the worlds, revealing itself to everyone. Not only that, but Starscream took the power unleashed by the Lock to increase his size to gigantic proportions. My guess is he was way taller than G1 Metroplex and Trypticon, but not as tall as G1 Fort Max and Scorponok. But anyway, he was enormous and now wore a crown similar to the one worn by his G1 self in the G1 movie. He easily defeated all the Autobots and Decepticons (who had broken free of the force field by this time). But with the sudden arrival of the new Autobot Wing Saber, he was beaten when Prime and Wing Saber merged into Prime's Sonic Wing Mode.

After this failure, Starscream went into hiding only to reveal himself later and stole energy directly from Primus, becoming equal with him in size and power. He was now as large as both Primus and Unicron. He went one-on-one with the deity and was winning easily. But alas, he would not prevail. Primus awoke and fought back, using Cybertron's moons as flail-weapons and defeating Starscream, who disappeared again.

He would reappear later once the last CPKey was found and, in the end, had a one-on-one fight with Galvatron. Both were evenly matched, neither one seemed to take more damage than the other, nor would they surrender. Both of them channeled all their power within themselves and came at each other. The reaction was so incredible that time and space itself was rended by the final explosion. Starscream was hurtled into another dimension along with the interferring Sideways and Soundwave, leaving only his crown floating through space, which was taken by Galvatron. Later, his presence would be discovered by the Autobot Wing Saber who told Optimus he was going track him down. Optimus sent him back up. In the end, he was still considered a real threat.

That Starscream and this new Animated one are the best Starscreams since G1.

[Justicity]

the whole Unicron trilogy did nothing but disgrace one of the most popular characters in TF history! They gave him a krusty the clown voice, and made him this bad guy with compassion who looks up to his leader, wants his leader to be proud of him, and at the same time wants to be a good guy. I know he sacrificed himself in Armada, and then came back with amnesia in Energon, and well I never finished Energon, and I only watched one episode of cybertron, so I have no idea where they took his character.

Before Animated aired, Cybertron Starscream was the closest thing to G1 Starscream yet, minus the stupidity.
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That Starscream and this new Animated one are the best Starscreams since G1.

What episode did he battle Primus in? I'd like to watch that!

Nice summary by the way, congrat on making me want to watch a Cybertron episode.

[Energon]

[quote="SabrbladeThat Starscream and this new Animated one are the best Starscreams since G1.[/quote]

Wow, I didn't know all that about Cybertron Starscream.

Go Starscream! Youre the man!

The characterization is more important than the voice.

[0ptimus__Prime]

I like it.


I also love the theme song too.