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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Solrac333 » Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:51 pm

Hey Kryptoniteking, you definitely don't want to go to the My Space TF group. If you post anything bad about the new series, they'll rip your head off. I had to leave that group.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Kryptoniteking » Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:59 pm

omega666 wrote:Hey Kryptoniteking, you definitely don't want to go to the My Space TF group. If you post anything bad about the new series, they'll rip your head off. I had to leave that group.


I'm in that group (or should I say "those groups"). Talk about people who look down upon people that don't agree with their opinions... Some of those guys thought X-Men 3 was the best out of the 3 movies despite all the plot holes throughout... Geesh!

So, here's my final verdict: TF Animated combines many elements of all the past different series. That, I admit, I like. The execution was not at the level that I expected to see. Story may have promise but the cheesy dialog, human character portrayal, and animation kill it. If the story is good (or excellent) then the visuals should match.

I look at it like this. Remember when we were first fed the trailer for "Ultimate Avengers: The Movie" DVD? That trailer kicked @$$! Then when you rented (or bought, in my case) the DVD the animation was totally different from what was advertised. Not to mention, the movie sucked as did the sequel (especially the sequel).

I feel like I've been duped with this new show! Yes, the original was a little cheesy when you look back on it but not to the degree of cheese that's laid out in TF Animated... It's multiplied by 10... I can't accept that. I would've rather enjoyed an animated version of the movie characters than be lulled to sleep by the crap that's being shown now.
Spectacular Spider-man is a better written, better animated show and has a better theme song... Hands down!
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:52 pm

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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:55 pm

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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Bumblebee-otch » Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:55 pm

i may have missed this (like i did with the episode itself :BANG_HEAD: ) but is there any place (NOT youtube) to watch it online? thanks.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby moonie » Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:57 pm

the main focus of the show (and this is only my guess) is to lure new viewers to the transformers mythos, mainly the kids. it's made to appeal to those who saw the 2007 movie and those knowing about transformers for the first time. so despite the attempts of the writers to market this also to the fans, this is still basically just a kids show. same as G1 but for the new generation kids. don't expect this show to be what you want it to be because its already done. shun it or watch it, makes no difference. one way or the other transformers animated still gets a lot of buzz. even without the fans of the old series.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Starscreams bad comedy » Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:08 am

So when is the next showing and what will the time slot be for it?
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby rpetras » Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:30 am

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I was excited for this series. I watched the first 90 min epp and liked it, I didn't love it. It did capture me more than the last 4 series combined, so I think that is a win.

I see where it could grow on me after a few more epps, much like Teen Titans did.

I liked the characterization for everyone, especially the decepticons. Can't wait to see more (much more) of Megatron. He kicked @$$. This is how he should have been in the movie.

Overall I give it a thumbs up, and I can't wait for the next one.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby NuclearConvoy » Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:34 am

Bumblebee-otch wrote:i may have missed this (like i did with the episode itself :BANG_HEAD: ) but is there any place (NOT youtube) to watch it online? thanks.


Are you comfortable using torrents?
If so, you need to register at http://www.bitt.tv before the 1st of January (they go invite only then) and you can torrent a complete, approximately 700mb file.
There's also another torrent out there with the episode broken in to 9 or 10 chunks of about 10 minutes, bvut that's just stupid.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Defcon! » Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:08 am

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Starscreams bad comedy wrote:So when is the next showing and what will the time slot be for it?

Sat. Jan. 5 at 10:30 a.m. Cartoon Network. ;)^
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Bonger » Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:35 am

Well then, it really wasn't to bad.

SS and Megs voices are fantastic.

I can deal with the funky looking faces on Bots, but the wierd anime style humans are a huge turnoff for me.

Overall, much better than I thought, though I thought the episode dragged a bit and I started to get a little bored half way through.

Looks like a fun show to kill time with when bored and I can see how kids would love it.

3 out of 5 stars for me.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby doomboy536 » Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:26 am

I loved it, especially seeing Spike, Carly and Daniel from G1 :P

This series has the potential to be WAAAY better than the past 3, which have quite frankly been awful.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Aerrow » Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:53 am

Not sure if this was mentioned before, but for those of you who have Brighthouse/Time Warner digital cable they are playing Transformers Animated on it's "Free On Demand" kid's channel.

Hopefully this means they will put up each episode so we can watch it without commercial interruptions :)


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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Hyre » Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:03 am

Although I'm fairly certain it's been mentioned, I noticed that the early part of the animation was a little bit rougher, but slowly became better and better. Maybe I was imagining it, dunno, but I swear they started using better highlighting towards the end. Also, I don't really like Sari's Allspark key gimmick, as it's a bit overpowered (Oh, you died? No, we bring you back now 8D). Although, now that I think about it, the writers probably already have a way to either make it less powerful or have it fall into enemy hands. Also, loving the fact that Ultra Magnus is top dog among the Autobot forces, even if Sentinel is apparently his go-to guy. Also, I don't know who, but Starscream seems highly patterned off of some other cartoon lackey, I just can't remember who. Voice, facial expressions, I get this odd sense of deja vu when I see him. Ah well, it's looking all good, and here's hoping it only gets better from here!

Edit: Two more things. One, I kind of wish Starscream had had the brains to try to pull off "Hey, I'm an Autobot too!" trick, turn people against the Autobots, but that would have probably screwed the whole thing up. Two, since all the tech is based off of Megatron, wouldn't it be feasible for him to take control of it? At least if Sumdac used code from him, anyways.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:42 am

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Hyre wrote:Also, I don't know who, but Starscream seems highly patterned off of some other cartoon lackey, I just can't remember who.


Awhile back, when CN was showing the preview clip from episode 1, I stated on Unicron.com that SS sounded an awful lot like Snively from Sonic SatAM. After watching the episode, he's a little of Snively and a lot of his G1 namesake.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby NuclearConvoy » Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:23 pm

Hyre wrote:Edit: Two more things. One, I kind of wish Starscream had had the brains to try to pull off "Hey, I'm an Autobot too!" trick, turn people against the Autobots, but that would have probably screwed the whole thing up. Two, since all the tech is based off of Megatron, wouldn't it be feasible for him to take control of it? At least if Sumdac used code from him, anyways.


As I understand it, Megatron is subliminally having Sumdac rebuild him. I'm assuming that Sumdac would subconsciously hope Megatron is an Autobot during said process.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Menbailee » Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:59 pm

It's weird that people keep calling the art style anime. Although it certainly shows some anime influences, the art style of Teen Titans or TF:A looks very distinct to me from any anime. I do believe we're looking at a homegrown style which has taken cues from several different sources to break out of the realist style initiated by Disney's Snow White decades ago. Whether you like that style or not is a different question, but my point is, we are not just watching animation following suit after Japanese cartoons; we're watching something that has blended styles in its own original way.

One of the biggest successes of this style which could not be accomplished with the realist techniques of G1 is making vehicle modes emotive. I'm impressed with how the animators use reflections of light off the windshields to mimic expressions on human faces!
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby GiraffeSwordsman » Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:03 pm

Menbailee wrote:It's weird that people keep calling the art style anime. Although it certainly shows some anime influences, the art style of Teen Titans or TF:A looks very distinct to me from any anime. I do believe we're looking at a homegrown style which has taken cues from several different sources to break out of the realist style initiated by Disney's Snow White decades ago. Whether you like that style or not is a different question, but my point is, we are not just watching animation following suit after Japanese cartoons; we're watching something that has blended styles in its own original way.

One of the biggest successes of this style which could not be accomplished with the realist techniques of G1 is making vehicle modes emotive. I'm impressed with how the animators use reflections of light off the windshields to mimic expressions on human faces!


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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:15 pm

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The style isn't even anime style. It's based on anime, but the correct term for this style is "Pseudo-anime", or "Amerime".
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Postby Tekka » Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:21 pm

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It's not even close enough to Animé to be called Pseudo-Animé.

It's quite frankly insulting to someone who is actually an Animé fan, that this junky drawing style would be used as a comparison... guh.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Defcon! » Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:10 pm

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The animation style is just like batman and the other so named animated series. They may differ a little with a few tweaks here and there but the style is the same. Less detailed and cost effective but more appealing for children.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Nemesis Cyberplex » Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:45 pm

Defcon! wrote:The animation style is just like batman and the other so named animated series. They may differ a little with a few tweaks here and there but the style is the same. Less detailed and cost effective but more appealing for children.
Honestly, the only thing I think is more appealing to children are the fact that shows with this style of animation are forced on children & put in prime time slots. They really just watch because it's transformers, & it's the only choice they're getting for giant transforming robot-on-robot (on giant cockroach) action.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:06 pm

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Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:& it's the only choice they're getting for giant transforming robot-on-robot (on giant cockroach) action.


Don't forget robot-on-robot-on-giant roach-on-archery man-on-melting man-on-speedy skating dude-on-big head guy action
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Dozertron » Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:29 pm

I think it's MORE childish than expected... B-)
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