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The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Discuss anything about the Transformers cartoons and comics! You can discuss anything from G1 to Cybertron as well as the comics from Marvel, Dreamwave, IDW and more!

Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby i_amtrunks » Sat Dec 29, 2007 7:06 pm

Watched it twice yesterday, it's freaking awesomesauce!

I love it, the designs are a bit off, but the overall quality of the show is great, so colourful and well scripted.

Ratchet is my favourite, you really get the feeling that he'd prefer to be back on Cybertron telling young cyber-punks to "get off his asphalt".

Can't wait for the figures to be released!
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Ravage XK » Sat Dec 29, 2007 7:53 pm

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I love it, the designs are a bit off, but the overall quality of the show is great, so colourful and well scripted.


This is how I feel. Its not what I would have wanted it to be but it has been done with thought.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby technoextreme » Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:16 pm

Kryptoniteking wrote:
Jeysie wrote:I'm a bit... bemused by people who seem to be knocking the show *solely* on the animation style. I don't like it much either, but I consider characterization/dialogue, story/plot, and voice acting much more important, and there I have very little complaint.


I've considered all that you listed... It failed to grasp my attention. I really went into it wanting to like this show. When "Batman: The Animated Series" first debuted, I was skeptical of it until I actually saw the awesome quality of the animation combined with the excellently written stories, won me over! I don't get that feeling from this new TF series.

Are kidding me? In some regards the jokes had me scratching my head in amazement. They definately grasped attention because some of them were out from left field. Never in my life would I have imagined a kids show making a joke about the symbolism of the red cross.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Jeysie » Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:15 pm

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technoextreme wrote:Never in my life would I have imagined a kids show making a joke about the symbolism of the red cross.
PS. My first post. It only took me four years to make it. :APPLAUSE:


Heh, yes, I remember that one!

Sari: "Don't worry, humans don't usually blow up things with those symbols on the side."

Ratchet: "And here I thought they made me an easier target."

And, welcome! Glad to see you finally jumped into the pool. :)
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:31 pm

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Speaking of newcomers, I'm looking at my rank under my name and it says I'm a Micromaster. When I joined it said I was a Mini-con. How exactly does the ranking system work?

And isn't "Micromaster" a step down from "Mini-con" size wise? I know MMs could speak naturally unlike MCs who bleeped at first and spoke later, but their (MMs) toys are smaller.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby TheMuffin » Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:40 pm

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It really doesn't have anything to do with size of the toy. It's ranking of the transformer. A minicon will always be lower on the totem pole than a micromaster. Etc etc.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:14 pm

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Jeysie wrote:Sari: "Don't worry, humans don't usually blow up things with those symbols on the side."

Ratchet: "And here I thought they made me an easier target."


Thankyou for that one.......just more proof that Animated Ratchet is not G1 Ratchet.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Jeysie » Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:37 pm

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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Thankyou for that one.......just more proof that Animated Ratchet is not G1 Ratchet.


You're welcome (albeit the help was unintentional). I must admit I'm a tad puzzled at the confusion myself... the TF universe seems to favor reboots anyway, and the little G1 references struck me as nothing else but fanservice in the non-sexual sense of the term. Nice little easter eggs.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:55 pm

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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Thankyou for that one.......just more proof that Animated Ratchet is not G1 Ratchet.


You're welcome (albeit the help was unintentional). I must admit I'm a tad puzzled at the confusion myself... the TF universe seems to favor reboots anyway, and the little G1 references struck me as nothing else but fanservice in the non-sexual sense of the term. Nice little easter eggs.


Same here.I can understand why people might want Animated to be a continuation of the G1 toon but there's no logical way to connect them.At least not from a character stand point.

There are already to many inconsistent points to be made when trying to connect the two serries.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Robinson » Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:07 pm

I know its a stretch, but what if all human interaction in the great war was wiped from databanks and history. The cleared out both sides in order to allow natural history to take course. Then they land on earth again and screw it all up.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:27 pm

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Robinson wrote:I know its a stretch, but what if all human interaction in the great war was wiped from databanks and history. The cleared out both sides in order to allow natural history to take course. Then they land on earth again and screw it all up.


A] what would be the perposs in doing that????By the time that G1 ended human's and Transformers had merged into a new life form.

B] it may have been eazy to wipe the info from TF data banks but I dont see how it could have been wiped out from human history.

Such things have been tryed in our history before but have never been able to be completly done.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:28 pm

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TheMuffin wrote:It really doesn't have anything to do with size of the toy. It's ranking of the transformer. A minicon will always be lower on the totem pole than a micromaster. Etc etc.


Okay.

But still how does the ranking system work exactly? What are the ranks, how does one change his/her rank, what causes a rank change, can one mave down in rank, etc. etc...
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Shadow Dragon » Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:30 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
TheMuffin wrote:It really doesn't have anything to do with size of the toy. It's ranking of the transformer. A minicon will always be lower on the totem pole than a micromaster. Etc etc.


Okay.

But still how does the ranking system work exactly? What are the ranks, how does one change his/her rank, what causes a rank change, can one mave down in rank, etc. etc...


The more posts you make, the higher your rank. That's it, nothing terribly special. :D
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby AxiomScion » Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:47 pm

I'll admit i originally tried to see animated as a continuance after the g1 fan service, and that perhaps ratchet was some sort of missing link :?

but the more i watch it the more a reboot seems to make more sence. Animated seems to take a lot of G1, and some bay dynamix and mix them up into a new story. I'm not hating it...
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:55 pm

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Alrighty then. Thanks, Shadow Dragon.

THIS JUST IN!!! Transformers: The Animated Series will debut on Cartoon Network next Saturday at 10:30 a.m. Eastern time, starting with episode 4 "Home is Where the Spark Is".
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Frostic_Prime » Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:59 pm

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This episode is going to suck...

only because it's going to be to short for me. 30 mins compared to 90 mins...EEEEK!
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Nemesis Cyberplex » Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:07 am

Animated is not a sequel to G1. Period. The G1 "history" clips are meant to refer to the fact that G1 is actual real-life Transformer history, but in the fiction of Animated, the Great War has no bearing on G1's Great War, or anything TF that came before Animated, & vice versa. Animated is just another universe in the great TF multiverse, which we all should know by know is hasbro's catch-all "It's all good" backdrop for TF mythos.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby moonie » Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:13 am

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:Animated is not a sequel to G1. Period. The G1 "history" clips are meant to refer to the fact that G1 is actual real-life Transformer history, but in the fiction of Animated, the Great War has no bearing on G1's Great War, or anything TF that came before Animated, & vice versa. Animated is just another universe in the great TF multiverse, which we all should know by know is hasbro's catch-all "It's all good" backdrop for TF mythos.



i agree.
so let us sever any more links to G1 or at least reserve our theories until we see more of the series. i really don't think there is any way that this series can be called a continuation of the original.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby GiraffeSwordsman » Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:15 am

If its on at 10:30, then it means its on at 7:30 on Direct TV. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :sad:
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby NuclearConvoy » Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:16 am

Sabrblade wrote:Speaking of newcomers, I'm looking at my rank under my name and it says I'm a Micromaster. When I joined it said I was a Mini-con. How exactly does the ranking system work?

And isn't "Micromaster" a step down from "Mini-con" size wise? I know MMs could speak naturally unlike MCs who bleeped at first and spoke later, but their (MMs) toys are smaller.


Actually, considering my large collection of both Micromasters and Minicons, they're relatively the same size, with some bigger than others obviously.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby NuclearConvoy » Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:25 am

Sabrblade wrote:Alrighty then. Thanks, Shadow Dragon.

THIS JUST IN!!! Transformers: The Animated Series will debut on Cartoon Network next Saturday at 10:30 a.m. Eastern time, starting with episode 4 "Home is Where the Spark Is".


Excellent!
I was worried they'd re-air all three parts of "Transform and Roll Out" before giving us new stuff!
Thank you Cartoon Network!
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Pyrostrata » Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:11 am

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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Judge Deliberata » Sun Dec 30, 2007 3:14 am

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This is by far the best TF show in years. I'm not a fan of the animation style at all, but I'm going to be watching every last episode; the characterization of the bots makes up for its style. Heck, Starscream alone wins the show for me; it's good to see him back in the ruthless, vile persona I remember from the G1 days. Not that I wasn't a fan of the Armada iteration, but part of why G1 Screamer is a fan fave is because he's such an ass.

On the flip side, a version of Optimus who isn't a carbon copy of his previous forms, is also a nice change!
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Pyrostrata » Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:10 am

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Judge Deliberata wrote:part of why G1 Screamer is a fan fave is because he's such an ass.



Ain't that the truth? That's why I like him as much as I do!


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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Autobot032 » Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:26 am

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Well after watching it again (this is about the fourth time I'd say)...I have to finally admit (110%)...that this is better than Bay's movie. Now, that's not to say I don't like Bay's film, I do, but this...was excellent.

Proof that you don't need two plus hours, excessive violence, foul language and disgusting sex talk to make a good TF film.

It's a shame Hasbro sold TFs out like they did.

Great one liners, incredible action, well placed humor without being campy or corny, dark and violent just enough without going over the limit of good taste.

People, if you're not watching TF:A...you're making a terrible, terrible mistake. The best TF series in a long, long time. It's even doing a great job of knocking BW out of the first place spot on my list.

And yes, Bumblebee is made of win.

Sari: I'm Sari.

Bumblebee: Oh Don't be, I like my name.


And Bulkhead...one of the best new characters in a long time. (it's also nice to hear Bill Fagerbakke do a voice without it sounding like an Idiot Savant Dauber.)

Bumblebee! My wrecking ball is stuck again!


I just cannot say enough good things about this show. I also can't wait for the second episode either. Hot Dang it was good.

And finally, for once...Starscream was a real, viable threat. He mopped the floor up with the Autobots and gave 'em a real run for their money. (That, in itself, is impressive.)
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