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The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Discuss anything about the Transformers cartoons and comics! You can discuss anything from G1 to Cybertron as well as the comics from Marvel, Dreamwave, IDW and more!

Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby imotron » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:59 am

Now is time for all us to vote for Optimus Prime for PRESIDENT
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Saber Prime » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:02 am

Dead Metal wrote:Transformers is shown in may things even Movies, you wanna say just cos they let the G1 show be shown on a TV in Leon, that Leon the specialist is G1?


Who's Leon?

So anyway... What about the Atlantis girl. I'm starting to annoy myself asking this question over and over again.

There's allso a girl who walks by them in that same sceen that looks like Audrey Rocio Ramirez.

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The animated girl not the voice actress who plays her. (as if I really had to point that out.)
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Dead Metal » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:04 am

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Dead Metal wrote:Transformers is shown in may things even Movies, you wanna say just cos they let the G1 show be shown on a TV in Leon, that Leon the specialist is G1?


Who's Leon?

So anyway... What about the Atlantis girl. I'm starting to annoy myself asking this question over and over again.

There's allso a girl who walks by them in that same sceen that looks like Audrey Rocio Ramirez.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A9on_%28film%29
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Saber Prime » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:14 am

I'm not familiar with this Leon person but judgeing from the Wiki page you linked I'm guessing he's not a Transformer and no one ever said he was in the great war of G1.

Optimus Prime IS watching HISTORY tapes of G1 and he says RATCHET WAS THERE. There's no getting around that.

I'm aware of the fact there are way too many plot holes to really tie Animated with G1 and I'd rather them not be conected but the only way they can't be conected is for that sceen never to have happened.

It did happen so weather we like it or not it's part of G1. If the animators didn't want it to be part of G1 they should have left that sceen out.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby TheMuffin » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:49 am

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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Jeysie » Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:35 pm

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You forgot Primus, Muffin. ;)

But completely seriously... this thread is supposed to be about the actual episodes, except it's impossible to discuss the actual episodes when there's a mess of posts debating a connection to G1 when even the WRITERS have stated there's no direct connection and all the little nods/easter eggs are just that: nods and easter eggs.

Can I put in a plea to... not have this discussion? Or move it to another thread, so the rest of us can continue talking here about what IS actually happening in the show? I usually don't mind some geeky speculation cartwheels, but this is getting to be too much even for me.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Dead Metal » Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:42 pm

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Ah, seems as if it stays on topic now :D

OK who's looking forward to the Dinos?
Did you notice something, the Dinobots that will be shown tommorow will be the same as in G1!
Will that mean we will be getting the other two aswell?
Anyway I can't wait for them to turn up, also I wish the Angry Archer will turn up like every second ep, as a running gag :D
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Solrac333 » Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:49 pm

Jeysie wrote:You forgot Primus, Muffin. ;)

Can I put in a plea to... not have this discussion? Or move it to another thread, so the rest of us can continue talking here about what IS actually happening in the show? I usually don't mind some geeky speculation cartwheels, but this is getting to be too much even for me.


It would be nice to put that in another thread to keep it separate but it would porbably get locked once the thread is started with a link back to this thread.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Tekka » Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:52 pm

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Dead Metal wrote:I wish the Angry Archer will turn up like every second ep, as a running gag :D
Until the last episode when the Decepticons get their hands on him. Then he'll be really screwed. :P And we'll never see him again.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Dead Metal » Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:59 pm

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Dead Metal wrote:I wish the Angry Archer will turn up like every second ep, as a running gag :D
Until the last episode when the Decepticons get their hands on him. Then he'll be really screwed. :P And we'll never see him again.

That will be the sadest moment in cartoon history for me,right after the Death of Prime, the death of Lucy...
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby AxiomScion » Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:10 pm

Any chance you think he could become a target master? I think one of the later eps titles mention a head master...
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby imotron » Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:19 pm

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imotron wrote: :sad:


What's the frowny face for? That b@$t@rd (aka my grandfather) died in 1985, one year before I was born. I hate him anyway just for what he put my father and his siblings through, especially my aunts, that sick b@$t@rd.




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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Jeysie » Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:31 pm

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omega666 wrote:It would be nice to put that in another thread to keep it separate but it would porbably get locked once the thread is started with a link back to this thread.


Ordinarily, yes, but maybe if it was earmarked as necessary to keep this thread focused? I mean, I don't have an issue with people talking about whatever they want, but if that conversation can only be put in here, it's kind of drowning out all the other discussion at this point. :/ Better to open another thread than make people stop talking about it altogether.

Dead Metal wrote:OK who's looking forward to the Dinos?


Ordinarily I'd say, "Not looking forward to them, and wish they picked more interesting characters instead," as I found the G1 Dinobots an irritating waste of space. Their only redeeming qualities were Swoop and Grimlock creating the Technobots. :P

However, the Animated folks have done a nice job of reimagining characters so far... I like their new takes on Optimus Prime, Ultra Magnus, Ratchet, and Bumblebee, and Megatron and Starscream are just *totally* badass now. So I'm willing to give them a benefit of a doubt that they'll make the Dinobots actually interesting. Guess we'll see!

Dead Metal wrote:Anyway I can't wait for them to turn up, also I wish the Angry Archer will turn up like every second ep, as a running gag :D


Angry Archer was kind of fun as comic relief, but I hope that not all of the human villains are going to be like that. Of course, maybe if they establish the Archer as the recurring comic relief, that will solve that problem since the others can be more serious. ;)
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Robinson » Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:31 pm

Saber Prime wrote:So anyway... What about the Atlantis girl. I'm starting to annoy myself asking this question over and over again.
Audrey Rocio Ramirez.

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Yeah um, I don't see it. Just like thats not Carly and Daniel to you its not some girl from a disney movie that no one really watched in the first place.

I really think its referncing this girl.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Solrac333 » Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:30 pm

Jeysie wrote:
omega666 wrote:It would be nice to put that in another thread to keep it separate but it would porbably get locked once the thread is started with a link back to this thread.


Ordinarily, yes, but maybe if it was earmarked as necessary to keep this thread focused? I mean, I don't have an issue with people talking about whatever they want, but if that conversation can only be put in here, it's kind of drowning out all the other discussion at this point. :/ Better to open another thread than make people stop talking about it altogether.

Dead Metal wrote:OK who's looking forward to the Dinos?


Ordinarily I'd say, "Not looking forward to them, and wish they picked more interesting characters instead," as I found the G1 Dinobots an irritating waste of space. Their only redeeming qualities were Swoop and Grimlock creating the Technobots. :P

However, the Animated folks have done a nice job of reimagining characters so far... I like their new takes on Optimus Prime, Ultra Magnus, Ratchet, and Bumblebee, and Megatron and Starscream are just *totally* badass now. So I'm willing to give them a benefit of a doubt that they'll make the Dinobots actually interesting. Guess we'll see!

omega666 wrote:Anyway I can't wait for them to turn up, also I wish the Angry Archer will turn up like every second ep, as a running gag :D


Angry Archer was kind of fun as comic relief, but I hope that not all of the human villains are going to be like that. Of course, maybe if they establish the Archer as the recurring comic relief, that will solve that problem since the others can be more serious. ;)



Hey! I didn't say that last quote. I don't know who Angry Archer is since I am not watching this show.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Jeysie » Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:43 pm

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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Saber Prime » Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:56 pm

Jeysie wrote:Ordinarily I'd say, "Not looking forward to them, and wish they picked more interesting characters instead," as I found the G1 Dinobots an irritating waste of space. Their only redeeming qualities were Swoop and Grimlock creating the Technobots. :P


Swoop had nothing to do with the Technobots. Grimlock built them in the episode "Grimlocks new brain" and unfortunatly he didn't get much smarter as he only switch from "Me Grimlock" to "I Grimlock" No matter what he still can't start a sentence without saying his own name.

The only Dinobots I ever liked are BW Dinobot and RID Grimlock. Of course RID Grimlock isn't even a Dinobot, he just happens to have the same name as the Dinobot's leader.

I really can't stand any character who has to repeatedly introduce themselfs.

Grimlock: Me Grimlock...

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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Saber Prime » Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:09 pm

Robinson wrote:
Saber Prime wrote:So anyway... What about the Atlantis girl. I'm starting to annoy myself asking this question over and over again.
Audrey Rocio Ramirez.

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Yeah um, I don't see it. Just like thats not Carly and Daniel to you its not some girl from a disney movie that no one really watched in the first place.

I really think its referncing this girl.
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Actully TWO Disney movies. It produced a sequill so aperently alot of people saw it... or at least saw the first one.

And did I mention Lenord Nimoy and Cory Burton were in thoughs movies?
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Jeysie » Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:14 pm

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Saber Prime wrote:Swoop had nothing to do with the Technobots. Grimlock built them in the episode "Grimlocks new brain" and unfortunatly he didn't get much smarter as he only switch from "Me Grimlock" to "I Grimlock" No matter what he still can't start a sentence without saying his own name.


*sigh* I had a feeling that someone might read that wrong, but I couldn't figure out a better word order (since "Their only redeeming qualities were Grimlock creating the Technobots and Swoop." is confusing in an entirely different way).

I meant, the only redeeming things about the Dinobots were Swoop as an individual character (he's the only Dinobot that didn't suck) and the fact that Grimlock built the Technobots. Two separate thoughts intended. :>
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Saber Prime » Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:53 pm

Jeysie wrote:
Saber Prime wrote:Swoop had nothing to do with the Technobots. Grimlock built them in the episode "Grimlocks new brain" and unfortunatly he didn't get much smarter as he only switch from "Me Grimlock" to "I Grimlock" No matter what he still can't start a sentence without saying his own name.


*sigh* I had a feeling that someone might read that wrong, but I couldn't figure out a better word order (since "Their only redeeming qualities were Grimlock creating the Technobots and Swoop." is confusing in an entirely different way).

I meant, the only redeeming things about the Dinobots were Swoop as an individual character (he's the only Dinobot that didn't suck) and the fact that Grimlock built the Technobots. Two separate thoughts intended. :>


Um... thanks for clearing that up... I think...

Swoop still sucked. He had the same speach pattern as the rest of them.

Swoop: Me Swoop...

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Saber Prime: Ah cr@p I didn't mean you, I meant I'm going to make you all into scrap metal. By the time I'm done with you, you'll all look like Michel Bay designs!

So about that Dinobot episode tomarrow, as you can see I'll be happy as long as they don't talk like that!

Of course sence I don't have cartoon network you'll all have seen them before me and you can worn me if I'm going to hate them. :mrgreen:
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Robinson » Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:53 pm

Saber Prime wrote:
Robinson wrote:
Saber Prime wrote:So anyway... What about the Atlantis girl. I'm starting to annoy myself asking this question over and over again.
Audrey Rocio Ramirez.

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Yeah um, I don't see it. Just like thats not Carly and Daniel to you its not some girl from a disney movie that no one really watched in the first place.

I really think its referncing this girl.
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Actully TWO Disney movies. It produced a sequill so aperently alot of people saw it... or at least saw the first one.

And did I mention Lenord Nimoy and Cory Burton were in thoughs movies?


It doesnt really take much for Disney to make a straight to dvd sequel. Nimoy just did it for the paycheck. Residuals from trek were getting slim in the md nineties.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:36 pm

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I said he LOOKED like Spike, I never said he WAS Spike.


Since you agree that it looks like Spike can you give us a explaintion as to why the animator's would chose to add in a character that looks like Spike to begin with????

Saber Prime wrote:Allso looking trough the list it seems Episode 7 Thrill of the Hunt will have flashbacks from the Great War. We'll just have to wait and see if these "Flashbacks" are new animation or if they're just going to use footage from G1 Ratchet. One thing is for sure it says the Flashbacks are Ratchet's memories of the War so that episode can settle this arguement once and for all. Till then let's give it a rest.


Even if these "Flashback" are G1 footage it wont prove much ether way.If the Flash back footage is G1 and Cybertron related footage only it wont prove anything more then the history tapes do.......just that animated past is simular to G1 past.

Now if they show some G1 footage with Earth in it then you have your connection.

Burn wrote:This is Carly from G1, and the woman from Animated.

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Which two look more similar?


Even the hair style is simular.

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There you go. See, the shape of he head, the skin tone, and even her eyes look just like the woman in Animated.


Hair style is all wrong.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:46 pm

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Saber Prime wrote:I just thought of something else too.

Daniel was about 12 years old originally.

The boy in Animated you all claim is supose to be Daniel can't be any older than 7.


According to the Bible and the script for the 86 TF movie Daniel was about 5 years younger then Spike was when we first meet him in the G1 toon.

Now trying to figure out Spike's age seems difficult but in more then one episode of G1 he makes there are refrances to the fact that he's to young to drive.One time by Spike himself in the first season and the other by a police officer in the second season.

Now it is my understanding that the legale age for driving on the West Coast back in 1984 was 16 or 17 years old.

So for Spike not to be old enough to drive he had to be at least 14 years old when we first meet him [and probably younger based on the cop's reaction].

So if you subtrack about 6 years from the age Spike must be in the first season of G1 you end up at 7 years of age.

So G1 Daniel was about 8 years old in the 86 movie.Far closer to what you thing Animated Daniel looked like.

This makes a bit more sence then Daniel being 12 for other reasons.At the time of the movie [1986] the ideal family starting age for a young man was considered to be between 26 and 27 years of age.But if Daniel was 12 like you suggest [and I'll admit he looked] he would have had to been born when Spike was 22 or 23 years of age.

Thats a bit to young by the moral standereds or the time.

Now I know people were having kids at younger ages then, I my self had kids at the age of 13 but I doubt that a 80's cartoon would have been advocating anything less then what the U. S. govererment would have considered the ideal family starting age.

Saber Prime wrote:Now while were on an age subject...

Now Professor Sumdac seemed to be liveing alone so I'll guess his age to be somewhere between 18 and 21. That would place his older self at about 68 to 71.


I saw nothing that suggests that he was living alone and he looked to me to be about 15 or 16 years old.
Saber Prime wrote:Now isn't he kinda old to have a 9 year old daughter?

That would mean he was allready in his 50's when his daughter was born. He's old enough to be her GRANDfather.


Not by todays standereds.more then half of my youngest daughter's friends parents are all in there late 60's to mid 70's.

Granted most have older children too.

And besides my mother had me in her late 50's and my father was already 61 at the time and that was back in 1971.
Saber Prime wrote:I don't think Sumdac is a child abuser or rapist, and he definatly hasn't spent any time in prison, and he only has 1 kid so what the heck took him so long?


Maybe he couldnt get laid.

And besides theres an other debate that Sauri may be a robot.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Jeysie » Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:53 pm

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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Since you agree that it looks like Spike can you give us a explaintion as to why the animator's would chose to add in a character that looks like Spike to begin with????


Because it's a cute little fanservice easter egg nod to all the old-timer TF fans in the audience, just like using G1 footage as "history tapes", and isn't meant to be taken seriously? This is starting to get really silly.
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