The Energon Pub

[TurboMMaster]

After all, if Kids were able to find way out, why Decepticon communication officer should no be able to do so?

[Sabrblade]

After all, if Kids were able to find way out, why Decepticon communication officer should no be able to do so?

A very good reason for why the Autobots shouldn't use it as a prison.

After all, what good is an escapable confinement?

[Slashercon]

After all, if Kids were able to find way out, why Decepticon communication officer should no be able to do so?

A very good reason for why the Autobots shouldn't use it as a prison.

After all, what good is an escapable confinement?

If I recall, the kids didn't get themselves out necessarily. The bots opened their groundbridge to a specific frequency and beamed them out of there. The only ways I can imagine Soundwave getting out is if someone else let him out or he still could operate the Nemesis' groundbridge controls to beam himself out.

[Twitchythe3rd]

After all, if Kids were able to find way out, why Decepticon communication officer should no be able to do so?

A very good reason for why the Autobots shouldn't use it as a prison.

After all, what good is an escapable confinement?

If I recall, the kids didn't get themselves out necessarily. The bots opened their groundbridge to a specific frequency and beamed them out of there. The only ways I can imagine Soundwave getting out is if someone else let him out or he still could operate the Nemesis' groundbridge controls to beam himself out.

If I remember correctly, signals do travel outside of the Shadowzone. It's entirely possible he could bridge himself out.

[Dead Metal]

Dudes, he's Soundwave. The only reason he's even in the Shadowzone is because he was too lazy that day. The moment the Shadowzone starts boring him he'll just walk out of there - because he's Batman Soundwave.

[chaosmage42]

or he just has no idea he can do that. plus the signal was a cell phone its possible it only worked because its low tech. cybertronian com equipment might not allow them to do so plus didn't they have to text message their way out

[Henry921]

Dudes, he's Soundwave. The only reason he's even in the Shadowzone is because he was too lazy that day. The moment the Shadowzone starts boring him he'll just walk out of there - because he's Batman Soundwave.

Depending on what the time difference is between episode 65 and Predacons Rising, I'd guess Soundwave figures out a way to escape, either via groundbridge or after Megs/Unicron awakens and somehow draws Skyquake out and Soundwave just happens to follow.

[TurboMMaster]

Nobody consider posibility of Sounwave will be released by Autobots? After all in Fight with Unicron, Predacons and Terrorcons they may need all help they can get...

And also, if Spoilers are true, I would love to see Starscream working wth Agent Fowler the same way kids team up with BBB, Bulk and Arcee. Fowler in Starscream alt mode would be pure win.

Also, if Insecticons now propably can infect enemy, maybe it' time to consider using Nemesis Prime? USA Army propably still have him somwhere, and in seems to bee a good backup for situations like this.

[King Kuuga]

Fowler should pilot Zombie Skyquake. It's his VTOL after all.

[TurboMMaster]

And what would be point of that? I just think that Scream teaming with Fowler would be nice ne level of character development. Starscream so far consider humans as a inferior species, so it would be ice if he learn that Humans could be extremly useful. And don't say that friendship of Starscream with some human won't be hilarious.

[King Kuuga]

I was throwing that out as a nod to the fact that Skyquake and Dreadwing both scanned Fowler's jet for their alt-modes.

[Rodimus2006]

I dont mind Prime being Kiddified, if it isnt down right crazy like Babyish made for 8 year old kids. I enjoyed Prime dark tone. This is what made Prime the best series in the entire library of Transformers in 30 years.

I feel if they tone it down some it will take away that magic, also I am confused on what they were talking about on IGN.com being a Continuation or in a Parallel Deal I was unsure on what they mean by this.

My guess, maybe Prime will continue but many, many years after the events of Predacons Rising being a new Team, Jack, Miko, Raf are now Full Agents, Fowler & June are Married.

And Galvatron has taken Megatron's Place with Starscream & Shockwave who found Galvatron but this isnt a Reborn Megatron this is a Seperated Megatron & also Galvatron is Part PREDACON.

Does anyone know the plot of Predacons Rising, I hear stuff about Unicron, and Other new Predacons you guys told me about nothing else. Mainly such as when does this TAKE PLACE when in Time, such as Right after S3 ends or YEARS.

Cant wait until October, Hopefully in 2014 it will be a Direct Continuation just toned down for kids. Me I saw nothing wrong with Prime no diffrent than Ben 10 Omniverse, TMTN on Nick or Beware the Batman or Star Wars the Clone Wars. In terms of Dark Toned & Violence.

[VirusCarnage]

I hope they don't do Galvatron, I hate that concept of Meg's changing his name, it gets me so mad.

[Sabrblade]

also I am confused on what they were talking about on IGN.com being a Continuation or in a Parallel Deal I was unsure on what they mean by this.

They mean a new show set in the same continuity, as in a sequel/successor series.

Does anyone know the plot of Predacons Rising, I hear stuff about Unicron, and Other new Predacons you guys told me about nothing else. Mainly such as when does this TAKE PLACE when in Time, such as Right after S3 ends or YEARS.

The following is all that is known:

A resurrected UNICRON has taken over the now-lifeless body of MEGATRON to seek vengeance on the AUTOBOTS and ultimately, the destruction of Cybertron. This formidable enemy forces an unlikely alliance between the AUTOBOTS, DECEPTICONS, PREDAKING and two new PREDACONS, who come together in an epic battle to help protect their newly restored planet.

And the two new Predacons are Darksteel and Skylynx.

And here's the trailer:

[PrymeStriker]

made for 8 year old kids.

That's what Transformers are generally made for.

[TurboMMaster]

A resurrected UNICRON has taken over the now-lifeless body of MEGATRON to seek vengeance on the AUTOBOTS and ultimately, the destruction of Cybertron. This formidable enemy forces an unlikely alliance between the AUTOBOTS, DECEPTICONS, PREDAKING and two new PREDACONS, who come together in an epic battle to help protect their newly restored planet.

Well, technically any part of this spoiler, and even entire spoiler itself could be a fake. Also they can change the mind. For example, it's hard to belive that Bots could accept Starscream as an ally, considering that he killed Cliffjumper, and Starscream promise Megatron that he would avenge him. Predaking seems now to hate both Bots and Cons, the ony way I imagine he accept the aliance is that him discover that Unicron is responsible for Predacons extinction in first place.

An as i said before, Megatron is to important trademark to just leave it. For he's fans and Hasbro marketing menagers it could be more profitable to keep Megatron not so lifeless. However since this is Prime, I won't be suprised if Megatron won't appear in the Movie at all.

However, if this is true. I wonder did Vechicons, since now they won't be bad guys, is there any chance they will be more competent in fight with Terrorcons (like they were in Thirst)?

And i wanna see some more character, and Fowler either working with Starscream or piloting Nemesis Prime ( Or both, Fowler piloting Nemesis, Starscream with Apex Armor and Smokscreen with Phase shifter against army of Vampir-cons perhaps?)

[Sabrblade]

Well, technically any part of this spoiler, and even entire spoiler itself could be a fake.

But it came from Hasbro's official press release. Have official press releases been known to give false info?

Also they can change the mind.

Since it takes so long to make these things (what with CGI being so expensive and such), it's a bit too late in the game for that, now, isn't it?

For example, it's hard to belive that Bots could accept Starscream as an ally, considering that he killed Cliffjumper, and Starscream promise Megatron that he would avenge him.

Megatron killed Cybertron, which is a far greater sin than Starscream ever committed, yet they teamed up with Megatron (even letting him come into their base) back in the season 1 finale.

Predaking seems now to hate both Bots and Cons, the ony way I imagine he accept the aliance is that him discover that Unicron is responsible for Predacons extinction in first place.

That'd be pretty petty and stagnant for a character as noble and intelligent as Predaking to remain filled with such bitterness that would keep him from growing as a character. Megatron is dead, and he knows the Autobots were just used as pawns to destroy the Predacons by Megs, so Predaking has no one to justifiably direct his hatred at. If he doesn't just suck it up and move on, that's pretty pathetic of him.

An as i said before, Megatron is to important trademark to just leave it. For he's fans and Hasbro marketing menagers it could be more profitable to keep Megatron not so lifeless. However since this is Prime, I won't be suprised if Megatron won't appear in the Movie at all.

You did see that the above description mentioned Megatron's body being used as a vessel, right? He's most certainly going to show up in that regard.

And who knows, once Unicron is defeated by the the movie's conclusion, Megs could very well come back to life in final scene before the closing credits.

[Fires_Of_Inferno]

You know, I just watched the first scene from Darkness Rising, and I came to the conclusion that Cliffjumper is a horrible fighter. He takes out three or four Vehicons before being demolished where as every other Autobot rips through vehicons like I rip through potato chips. They make Cliffjumper look like a pansy. I seriously thought "Wow, how could he NOT have died?"

[Shadowman]

You know, I just watched the first scene from Darkness Rising, and I came to the conclusion that Cliffjumper is a horrible fighter. He takes out three or four Vehicons before being demolished where as every other Autobot rips through vehicons like I rip through potato chips. They make Cliffjumper look like a pansy. I seriously thought "Wow, how could he NOT have died?"

...jeez, I never really thought of it that way. I guess they were trying to set up the Vehicons as a serious threat, but they didn't last long, did it?

[Sabrblade]

You know, I just watched the first scene from Darkness Rising, and I came to the conclusion that Cliffjumper is a horrible fighter. He takes out three or four Vehicons before being demolished where as every other Autobot rips through vehicons like I rip through potato chips. They make Cliffjumper look like a pansy. I seriously thought "Wow, how could he NOT have died?"

...jeez, I never really thought of it that way. I guess they were trying to set up the Vehicons as a serious threat, but they didn't last long, did it?

Yeah, I think they just went and made those Vehicons extra powerful since, when we later see Cliffjumper in Arcee's flashback episode, he's a pretty decent fighter.

[Dead Metal]

You know, I just watched the first scene from Darkness Rising, and I came to the conclusion that Cliffjumper is a horrible fighter. He takes out three or four Vehicons before being demolished where as every other Autobot rips through vehicons like I rip through potato chips. They make Cliffjumper look like a pansy. I seriously thought "Wow, how could he NOT have died?"

...jeez, I never really thought of it that way. I guess they were trying to set up the Vehicons as a serious threat, but they didn't last long, did it?

Yeah, I think they just went and made those Vehicons extra powerful since, when we later see Cliffjumper in Arcee's flashback episode, he's a pretty decent fighter.

Or maybe it has to do with the all the Energon crystals blowing the f**k up in his face, his back, and his sides? Don't know about you but I generally thing that being engulfed in an Energon explosion is pretty bad for Transformers m'key. Energon explosions are bad m'key, don't em get engulfed by Energon explosions m'key.

[PrymeStriker]

You know, I just watched the first scene from Darkness Rising, and I came to the conclusion that Cliffjumper is a horrible fighter. He takes out three or four Vehicons before being demolished where as every other Autobot rips through vehicons like I rip through potato chips. They make Cliffjumper look like a pansy. I seriously thought "Wow, how could he NOT have died?"

...jeez, I never really thought of it that way. I guess they were trying to set up the Vehicons as a serious threat, but they didn't last long, did it?

Yeah, I think they just went and made those Vehicons extra powerful since, when we later see Cliffjumper in Arcee's flashback episode, he's a pretty decent fighter.

Well, consider this. In Out in the Past, Cliffjumper wasn't fighting more than two 'cons at a time. In the pilot, Cliff was taking on 7-9 Vehicons at once. Similarly, he managed to brush off about as many Vehicons he did in Out of the Past before they kicked him around and subsequently blew him up. It may not that Cliffjumper is a terrible fighter, but more toward that he can't handle that many guys ganging up on him at once.

[RAcast]

You know, I just watched the first scene from Darkness Rising, and I came to the conclusion that Cliffjumper is a horrible fighter. He takes out three or four Vehicons before being demolished where as every other Autobot rips through vehicons like I rip through potato chips. They make Cliffjumper look like a pansy. I seriously thought "Wow, how could he NOT have died?"

...jeez, I never really thought of it that way. I guess they were trying to set up the Vehicons as a serious threat, but they didn't last long, did it?

Yeah, I think they just went and made those Vehicons extra powerful since, when we later see Cliffjumper in Arcee's flashback episode, he's a pretty decent fighter.

Well, consider this. In Out in the Past, Cliffjumper wasn't fighting more than two 'cons at a time. In the pilot, Cliff was taking on 7-9 Vehicons at once. Similarly, he managed to brush off about as many Vehicons he did in Out of the Past before they kicked him around and subsequently blew him up. It may not that Cliffjumper is a terrible fighter, but more toward that he can't handle that many guys ganging up on him at once.

So he's more of a single-aggro kinda guy. Doesn't do well with those angry multi-aggro mobs.

[Sabrblade]

In any case, Cliff was clearly put in a situation that would leave him in an unfair disadvantage, rather than him just being a "pansy" (which I'd find hard to believe, considering his "one bot army" reputation that they allude to).

[RAcast]

In any case, Cliff was clearly put in a situation that would leave him in an unfair disadvantage, rather than him just being a "pansy" (which I'd find hard to believe, considering his "one bot army" reputation that they allude to).

Indeed, and as others have said, if there's anything we know about being caught in the explosion of RAW ENERGON, it's that it ends poorly for those in the blast radius.