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[Scourgescream]

Finally, Breakdown gets some damn lines

Hell yeah, he needs way more screen time. Maybe now Chuck has finished, Adam Baldwin will have more time and breakdown will get an increased role. Here's hoping!!

the last 2 episodes have been very good IMO. Better than the end of Season 1.

That bot that everyone is assuming is an Insecticon looks pretty cool

[Rodimus2006]

Yeah Saber I meant I paid the game off in full that way when it comes out I can just go pick it up. Also done the same with newer ones such as Halo 4 and also my The Last Story.

Like you are with Transformers I am the same with videogames I know everything out and everything coming out.

But it is interesting to see if there wil be more hidden goodies on Cybertron I guess maybe something like Scrapmetals, Scavengers or Bounty Hunters could still be on the planet.

The Insecticon like bot look cool and the face looks like a Vehicon but the body and stuff looks way diffrent. Also cant wait to see how they are during combat.

I thought it was epic when they showed Cybertron through Jacks Space suit we saw Cybertrons 2 moons I wonder if those will play a role in the future of the series.

I am just more curious on to see when Dreadwing will show up also I dont expext the Dinobots to be until the Season finale of Season 2. While Dreadwing will show up in mid-season of season 2.

I dont expect Dreadwing to be a full fledge member but rather used sparingly the Decipticons already have a full roster.

But I still hold on to my Theory that Project Iocon isnt Weaponss of Mass Destruction but instead Protoform Stasis Pods.

Another theory could be that Project Iocon could contain the Wisdom of the Primes and would show them away to revitilze Cybertron.

Right now everything is mure speculations for now I am loving Season 2 cant wait to see how this continues, which new bots will show up, will they make new Human characters.

How will MECH and Silas be used in Season 2.What kind of role will Starscream have.

Will Soundwave actually speak what kind of effect will it have on Optimus were he was actually an Decipticon will this effect him in some way.

Many questions in Season 2.

[Sabrblade]

I thought it was epic when they showed Cybertron through Jacks Space suit we saw Cybertrons 2 moons I wonder if those will play a role in the future of the series.

Well, the two Moonbases have already played a role in the novel.

I am just more curious on to see when Dreadwing will show up also I dont expext the Dinobots to be until the Season finale of Season 2. While Dreadwing will show up in mid-season of season 2.

Here's hoping that they don't look too different from their Fall of Cybertron designs.

I dont expect Dreadwing to be a full fledge member but rather used sparingly the Decipticons already have a full roster.

Well, he'll have to be full fledged at least during his story arc.

But I still hold on to my Theory that Project Iocon isnt Weaponss of Mass Destruction but instead Protoform Stasis Pods.

Another theory could be that Project Iocon could contain the Wisdom of the Primes and would show them away to revitilze Cybertron.

Racthet said Vector Sigma held the Wisdom of the Primes. And judging by what we've seen thus far, Project: Iacon may more likely be informational, rather than mystical.

[Shadowman]

I am just more curious on to see when Dreadwing will show up also I dont expext the Dinobots to be until the Season finale of Season 2. While Dreadwing will show up in mid-season of season 2.

Here's hoping that they don't look too different from their Fall of Cybertron designs.

The Dinobots getting new designs is pretty much a given at this point, admit it. Everyone else has had radical design changes. A few of them even had personality changes, in particular Breakdown.

But I still hold on to my Theory that Project Iocon isnt Weaponss of Mass Destruction but instead Protoform Stasis Pods.

Another theory could be that Project Iocon could contain the Wisdom of the Primes and would show them away to revitilze Cybertron.

Racthet said Vector Sigma held the Wisdom of the Primes. And judging by what we've seen thus far, Project: Iacon may more likely be informational, rather than mystical.

Wisdom of the Primes contained in the Matrix of Leadership and Vector Sigma...and a collection of archival data that could be access via decryption by a clerk? I think not.

[Sabrblade]

I am just more curious on to see when Dreadwing will show up also I dont expext the Dinobots to be until the Season finale of Season 2. While Dreadwing will show up in mid-season of season 2.

Here's hoping that they don't look too different from their Fall of Cybertron designs.

The Dinobots getting new designs is pretty much a given at this point, admit it. Everyone else has had radical design changes. A few of them even had personality changes, in particular Breakdown.

What I mean is, I hoping they're still the same kind of dinosaurs (T-Rex, Triceratops, "Brontosaurus"/Apatosaurus, Stegosaurus, and Pteranodon), still colored basically the same (primarily silver with some golds, reds, blacks, and blues), and still homages to the G1 Dinobots. It's a given that they won't look "exactly" the same, what with the differing animation studios and art styles, but at least let them bear a decent enough resemblance to each other.

[At0mic Cav3man]

Oh man, I laughed so hard at the entire Fowler/Breakdown scene. The look on Fowler's face was just priceless. There really has been a bump in writing this year, I think.

I loved the corridor fight between Starscream and the Vehicons. That one scene was almost as awesome by itself as anything Starscream did in the movies (even though the scene itself seemed very inspired by the way Starscream fought in the movies).

Until someone pointed out that Ironhide left Cybertron on the Ark, I was going to suggest that maybe Arcee and Jack might run across him during their trip. I'm still holding out hope that they'll run across someone new (and friendlier than whatever the hell that thing under the bridge was, Insecticon or not.

Someone mentioned bounty hunters, and I have to ask: How awesome would it be if Death's Head showed up on Prime. I KNOW it will never happen, but it would be awesome, yes? I read the SWORD mini-series (Marvel) not to long ago, and Death's Head was great in it. Very shades of old school, Death's Head, yes?

[Shadowman]

I am just more curious on to see when Dreadwing will show up also I dont expext the Dinobots to be until the Season finale of Season 2. While Dreadwing will show up in mid-season of season 2.

Here's hoping that they don't look too different from their Fall of Cybertron designs.

The Dinobots getting new designs is pretty much a given at this point, admit it. Everyone else has had radical design changes. A few of them even had personality changes, in particular Breakdown.

What I mean is, I hoping they're still the same kind of dinosaurs (T-Rex, Triceratops, "Brontosaurus"/Apatosaurus, Stegosaurus, and Pteranodon), still colored basically the same (primarily silver with some golds, reds, blacks, and blues), and still homages to the G1 Dinobots. It's a given that they won't look "exactly" the same, what with the differing animation studios and art styles, but at least let them bear a decent enough resemblance to each other.

Well, obviously, that's a given they're going to have the same basic alt-mode. But that has nothing to do with their Fall of Cybertron designs. (Alt-mode and design are too different things)

[Sabrblade]

I am just more curious on to see when Dreadwing will show up also I dont expext the Dinobots to be until the Season finale of Season 2. While Dreadwing will show up in mid-season of season 2.

Here's hoping that they don't look too different from their Fall of Cybertron designs.

The Dinobots getting new designs is pretty much a given at this point, admit it. Everyone else has had radical design changes. A few of them even had personality changes, in particular Breakdown.

What I mean is, I hoping they're still the same kind of dinosaurs (T-Rex, Triceratops, "Brontosaurus"/Apatosaurus, Stegosaurus, and Pteranodon), still colored basically the same (primarily silver with some golds, reds, blacks, and blues), and still homages to the G1 Dinobots. It's a given that they won't look "exactly" the same, what with the differing animation studios and art styles, but at least let them bear a decent enough resemblance to each other.

Well, obviously, that's a given they're going to have the same basic alt-mode. But that has nothing to do with their Fall of Cybertron designs. (Alt-mode and design are too different things)

Two characters can have the same type of altmode and still look different.

[Shadowman]

Two characters can have the same type of altmode and still look different.

I don't see what that has to do with anything we're talking about. Though it's basically rewording what I already said: Alt-mode and design are not the same thing. Optimus is, classically, a red and blue truck, but his design in WfC and Prime are very, very distinctly different. That's what I'm getting at.

Will they have the same alt-modes? Possibly, though it does get in the way of the whole "Keeping it a secret" thing. Will they have the same designs? Judging from Optimus, Bumblebee, Ratchet, Arcee, Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave and Breakdown, no, they won't.

[Rodimus2006]

None of the characters will look the same either in Prime nor in Fall of Cybertron cause bascially FOC and WFC are bascially a prequel of sorts to Prime.

But to me these 2 games are the prequel to the 1984 Generation 1 series and have nothing to do with Prime.

So the Dinobots & Dreadwing will look nothing like they did nor will Dreadwing look like any of his toy counterparts.

Heck Dreadwing may not even be a seeker he could have a diffrent Alt.Mode altogether from everything I have seen in Prime all these characters are doing a complete 180 from their previous versions.

They will not be the same both in looks and also in Personalties. I also see major changes in the Dinobots both in their Personailties and in there Alt.Modes who is say that Grimlock would be a T-Rex in Prime he could very well be a Raptor or something new.

Everything in Prime has recived major Changes I expect no less in the dinobots or Dreadwing either.

But I do still hold firm to my belief that Dreadwing is a Bounty Hunter and will be an older Transformers maybe on terms of Ratchet around his age would be my guess.

I hope they make Dreadwing sort of like Lockdown in Animated make him something like that.

I hope they try to keep Grimlocks personality in tack I would love to hear Grimlock say Me Grimlock kick but in Prime.

Also it is to far away to be specutlating on this right now I wanan see what Vector Sigma is and see more on Project Iocon.

I also think Project Iocon will be the focus point in the Season 2 ending.

[Shadowman]

None of the characters will look the same either in Prime nor in Fall of Cybertron cause bascially FOC and WFC are bascially a prequel of sorts to Prime.

Yes, we know. This is old news, this is the oldest news.

But to me these 2 games are the prequel to the 1984 Generation 1 series and have nothing to do with Prime.

The games are officially a prequel to Prime, we've been over this time and again, there's too many contradictions for them to be a prequel to G1.

[Archanubis]

...but the Dinobots probably won't come until later. And, the Autobots wouldn't build them since, by the time of the cartoon's era, they Dinobots would have already been existing for over 70 million years.

Especially if they hold to Fall of Cybertron's back story for the Dinobots - which, from what I've read and heard, is a pretty cool story.

If that the preview below is correct, that creature following Arcee and Jack is an Insecticon - a rather LARGE one, too. And it has some features that are not too disimilar from Beast Wars Scourge (especially in the wings. Not to mention it looks like the Scraplets are back...

[PrymeStriker]

...but the Dinobots probably won't come until later. And, the Autobots wouldn't build them since, by the time of the cartoon's era, they Dinobots would have already been existing for over 70 million years.

Especially if they hold to Fall of Cybertron's back story for the Dinobots - which, from what I've read and heard, is a pretty cool story.

If that the preview below is correct, that creature following Arcee and Jack is an Insecticon - a rather LARGE one, too. And it has some features that are not too disimilar from Beast Wars Scourge (especially in the wings. Not to mention it looks like the Scraplets are back...

Definitely an Insecticon (or just Insecticon ). At 0:17 I see Arcee getting her ass whooped by a flying insect. Considering it's the same terrain seen at 0:09, I'd believe it's the same Decepticon we saw at the end of Part 2. Obviously not Dreadwing, I wonder if this will be Insecticon, the seedling for an Insecticon Subgroup ( ) or, although a long shot, Waspinator?

[Foxbear]

Say, did anyone else notice that the spacebridge is located in the Cascade Range of the Pacific Northwest. Most likely in Oregon?
The zoomed in map (on the right screen 0-4 seconds of the second clip)shows a coastal outline and the zoomed out map (on the left screen5-6 seconds on the second clip) shows the location is on the northwest coast of North America.
Sweet and subtle G1 reference!
These writers rock!

[Rodimus2006]

I am starting to think Prime is one of the best written of the series even rivaling that of Beast Wars which is one of my all time favs.

I loved my beloved G1 cause im a G1 original been with Transformers G1 but I am also remninded of how corny the show was written but then again almost everything in the 80s was sort of corny.

Except 1 of my all time favortite 80 movies Big Trouble in Little China and Caddy Shack.

I have a theory on how each season will be about.

Season 1 - The Legion of the Dead & Unicron

Season 2 - Project Iocon

Season 3 - Project Chimera and the 13 Primes

On rather all of the 13 Primes will be in Prime I sincerly doubt that maybe some of the such as The Fallen cause he was refrenced in the show.

I noticed that if something is refrenced in the show at some point it will used in Prime.

My guess on how long Prime will be 4 Seasons about 75 episodes.

I am hoping Prime will stay around for awile I am in no hurry for the next Transformers series.

Also I will be busy with my Fall of Cybertron also this winter.

Where will Prime go from here, will the Autobots get more full fledge team mates or will they just remain cameos such as WheelJack.

Will the opening Sequence of Prime always remain the same.

Who will be the new combiner in Prime will it be a new one never before seen made espically for Prime or a beloved classic remade for Prime maybe the Combaticons - Bruticus.

Me personally would rather see the Stunticons - Menosuar be more easier to handle also give the cons some ground power.

I think that 3 Dinobots would be enough in Prime Grimlock, Swoop and Sludge.

[Sabrblade]

So the Dinobots & Dreadwing will look nothing like they did nor will Dreadwing look like any of his toy counterparts.

Heck Dreadwing may not even be a seeker he could have a diffrent Alt.Mode altogether from everything I have seen in Prime all these characters are doing a complete 180 from their previous versions.

We've already seen what Dreadwing looks like. He's a redeco of Skyquake.

Definitely an Insecticon (or just Insecticon ). At 0:17 I see Arcee getting her ass whooped by a flying insect. Considering it's the same terrain seen at 0:09, I'd believe it's the same Decepticon we saw at the end of Part 2. Obviously not Dreadwing, I wonder if this will be Insecticon, the seedling for an Insecticon Subgroup ( ) or, although a long shot, Waspinator?

There's probably a horde of Insecticons all over Cybertron.

[Rodimus2006]

I told you Saber months ago that Dreadwing was a Seeker the next confirmation of my theory needs to be proven his he a Bounty Hunter.

Remember the name of the episode I foudn rumored to be the 1st parts fo Prime 2 Rise Dreadwing this could be the way to introduce him.

Also maybe Rise of Dreadwing will be the episode on after Operation Bumblebee.

Also remeber Saber in Prime they waiste nothing hint the way why Dreadwing looks like a Clone of SkyQuake probably saves on the CGI Cost.


From the looks of him he has serious weapons and usually only a Bounty Hunter has that kinda of weaponary.

He dosent look older like I thought so that part of my theory is out the window to me he looks sort of like Breakdown in the Face.

But indeed I was right about him being a Seeker.

[Shadowman]

But indeed I was right about him being a Seeker.

You were right that he turned into a jet, sure, but that's nor really impressive when you consider he's always transformed into a jet. It's kind of like "predicting" Starscream will turn into a jet, or Optimus will turn into a truck; it's a given at this point.

But where it is confirmed that he's a Seeker? Big difference between transforming into a jet and being a Seeker. Starscream is a Seeker, (Starscream is the basis of the Seekers, even) Skyquake isn't.

[Rodimus2006]

Who cares I cant wait to see Dreadwing in action, how will is personailty be, how will is voice be.

How will his fighting abilities be what will his alligeance be towards Megatron will he be loyal like Soundwave or Rebellious like Airachnid.

Also I did mention that the Insecticon like bot under the bridge was meerely a look out there will be more.

I suspect that Cybertron isnt a fully dead world there are many hidden scavengers, insecticons like bots maybe even bounty hunters hidden on cybertron.

[Rodimus2006]

Also a thought on the Insecticon Like bot under the bridge Maybe they are indeed more of them and when they come together sort of like in ROTF they wil make one single transformer.

Although I doubt this insecticon like being will look nothing like the one in ROTF.

Like I said Saber the one under the Bridge is a look out from the games I have played and the anime I have watched I have learned that were they are one they are many.

That is my theory on the Insecticon like Bieng maybe they converge and make one single being.

I am bored and what I am bored I like to think outside of the box and I can get creative.

Unknown about it but seeing it in that short of time tells us that we are in store for some epic new stuff in Prime.

What other goodies will be shown in Season 2 new races, new things created by humans, new weapons, new artifacts.

The possibities are endless Saber.

[Shadowman]

Who cares

Why is it every time we prove you wrong, you follow up with "Who cares" then continue with the topic anyway?

I suspect that Cybertron isnt a fully dead world there are many hidden scavengers, insecticons like bots maybe even bounty hunters hidden on cybertron.

It's a dead world, there's just people living on it.

Also a thought on the Insecticon Like bot under the bridge Maybe they are indeed more of them and when they come together sort of like in ROTF they wil make one single transformer.

Huh? There was only one Insecticon in ROTF, and it certainly didn't do any combining.

Although I doubt this insecticon like being will look nothing like the one in ROTF.

We've already seen both of them.

Like I said Saber the one under the Bridge is a look out from the games I have played and the anime I have watched I have learned that were they are one they are many.

That's not related to the Unicron Trilogy, the ability to make a swarm is an old Insecticon trick.

[BeastProwl]

Alright. MY theory on Dreadwing
(If he even appears on the show that is!)
Now, so-and-so group of cons find Skyquake in that other dimension, and heal him and rebuild him into Dreadwing, Using the same bot to cut costs. If he even appears on the show that is.

Arcee referred to "vermin". This makes me follow along Saberblade's theory. there are probably hundreds, and if I may, they could probably even be evolved versions of the insectoid robots you see in wfc and the foc screenshots and stuff

[Twitchythe3rd]

So, in regards to the episode, did anyone else find it amusing that Starscream (a jet) performs Jet Judo on a flying Vehicon?

[Sabrblade]

Who cares I cant wait to see Dreadwing in action, how will is personailty be, how will is voice be.

If you don't care about whether or not he's a Seeker, then why were you gloating about it?

Like I said Saber the one under the Bridge is a look out from the games I have played and the anime I have watched I have learned that were they are one they are many.

When did we ever talk about the Insecticon?

The possibities are endless Saber.

Thank you, Captain Obvious.

That's not related to the Unicron Trilogy, the ability to make a swarm is an old Insecticon trick.

I believe he meant anime in general, rather than specifically TF anime.

Alright. MY theory on Dreadwing
(If he even appears on the show that is!)
Now, so-and-so group of cons find Skyquake in that other dimension, and heal him and rebuild him into Dreadwing, Using the same bot to cut costs. If he even appears on the show that is.

Dreadwing is definitely supposed to appear in the show, as he's said to have a "compelling character arc" in season 2. Though, I'm betting that he'll just be a "same body model, different character" type guy rather than Skyquake rebuilt, as the creators have said that when they kill a character in this show, they stay dead.

Arcee referred to "vermin". This makes me follow along Saberblade's theory. there are probably hundreds, and if I may, they could probably even be evolved versions of the insectoid robots you see in wfc and the foc screenshots and stuff

I like the idea of them being evolved forms of the FOC Insecticons.

So, in regards to the episode, did anyone else find it amusing that Starscream (a jet) performs Jet Judo on a flying Vehicon?

Good call!

[Rodimus2006]

You messed my point Saber I mean in ROTF there was a bunch or mini insecticons that Ravage released down the tube to steal the AllSpark Shard.

They all converged and made one singular being the very thin Single Insecticon.

I am trying to tell you that I think it could be POSSIBle that the one under the bridge is a look out when he goes back he reunites with the swarm of them.

Then they will merge and become a big transformers like being.

Maybe they are the Guaradian of sorts trying to safeguard Vector Sigma.

On Dreadwing I am just glad we finally got his looks wraped up now the questions how will he be in action on the show.

I still suspect that "Rise of Dreadwing" is still a forseeable episode in one that I think Dreadwing will debut.

On rather or not he will be a full fledge con or not unknown.

I also strongly believe that Project Iocon will be the focus point of the Season 2 ending and it will not be Weapons of Mass Destruction but something else entirely.

Now I am waiting for my Mass Effect 3 N7 version and playing on my Kinect finally I can complete a game I have worked so hard on since 2007.

ME 1 - FemShep Infiltrator LVL 60
ME 2 - FemShep Adept LVL 30
ME 3 - FemShep Soldier LVL 31

System 360 Romance Liara.


This is awesome Thursday Night Impact, Friday Night Smackdown, The Clone Wars, Saturday Prime, Sunday Walking Dead new episodes of American Dad and Family Guy. Monday Lizard Lick Towing and Raw and Tuesday I get my ME 3.

Awesome time the next 2 weeks.

Broke Wallet and Carpel Tunnel