The Energon Pub

[Rodimus2006]

I cant wait Prime Season 2 is going to be sick regardless of what is going to happen.

We all thought Animated was going to suck but it turned out to be if not one of the best written Transformers ever only second to Beast Wars.

Prime is starting to be a strong contendor if it can keep up with new interesting stoylines and keep up the current pace it could be the next big thing.

Prime has a lot of potential with a Massive Universe and characters to draw upon I dont see any way it can fail.

Only way it could if it was horrible written or suck job episodes such as Scrap Heap.

Hard to beleve I been with Transformers since day 1 since the very very beginning I cant wait to see Prime kick into High gear and bring in new characters and new transformers.

Could we see old school characters such as HotShot, Iron Hide and The Fallen could easily replace Unicron as the new Ultimate Villan.

I would love to see the original 13 Primes or at least some of them in some sort of compacity.

Excited to be a Transfan right now preordered my Fall of Cybertron on my PS3.

Transformers 4 possibly coming out and and it becoming a new trilogy.

[Rodimus2006]

I dont know if any of you have found this out or not but I will post up what I found if this is old news sorry about that.

Episode 27 - Rise of Dreadwing no info was given on this episode nor it release date says TBA Feburary.

So Looks like i was right about Dreadwing being one of the 1st new characters in Season 2.

[Sabrblade]

I dont know if any of you have found this out or not but I will post up what I found if this is old news sorry about that.

Episode 27 - Rise of Dreadwing no info was given on this episode nor it release date says TBA Feburary.

So Looks like i was right about Dreadwing being one of the 1st new characters in Season 2.

Linked source or it ain't true. Why do you never listen to us?

[BeastProwl]

hmm...
I Know it's a bit late for this, but I think prime gave jack the key to vector sigma, Because he knew that emptying the matrix would drain his memories, and he knew the key would be the only thing to give him his memories back. If this has already been said or thought of, I apologise for being slow I just think that may be the case is all!

[Sabrblade]

hmm...
I Know it's a bit late for this, but I think prime gave jack the key to vector sigma, Because he knew that emptying the matrix would drain his memories, and he knew the key would be the only thing to give him his memories back. If this has already been said or thought of, I apologise for being slow I just think that may be the case is all!

Optimus did not know what would happen to him upon releasing the power of the Matrix. No one knew. He gave Jack the Key because he didn't think he was going to survive this battle. He chose Jack because of how much Jack had matured over the season and likely because he saw enough of himself in Jack to trust him with the Key.

As for what the Key to Vector Sigma is for in this series, we dunno.

[BeastProwl]

hmm...
I Know it's a bit late for this, but I think prime gave jack the key to vector sigma, Because he knew that emptying the matrix would drain his memories, and he knew the key would be the only thing to give him his memories back. If this has already been said or thought of, I apologise for being slow I just think that may be the case is all!

Optimus did not know what would happen to him upon releasing the power of the Matrix. No one knew. He gave Jack the Key because he didn't think he was going to survive this battle. He chose Jack because of how much Jack had matured over the season and likely because he saw enough of himself in Jack to trust him with the Key.

As for what the Key to Vector Sigma is for in this series, we dunno.

Well, I'm just saying, they might just twist it into that, for lack of a more creative story.

[Sabrblade]

hmm...
I Know it's a bit late for this, but I think prime gave jack the key to vector sigma, Because he knew that emptying the matrix would drain his memories, and he knew the key would be the only thing to give him his memories back. If this has already been said or thought of, I apologise for being slow I just think that may be the case is all!

Optimus did not know what would happen to him upon releasing the power of the Matrix. No one knew. He gave Jack the Key because he didn't think he was going to survive this battle. He chose Jack because of how much Jack had matured over the season and likely because he saw enough of himself in Jack to trust him with the Key.

As for what the Key to Vector Sigma is for in this series, we dunno.

Well, I'm just saying, they might just twist it into that, for lack of a more creative story.

Here are my thoughts/hopes on the matter.

[Rodimus2006]

Saber I found the episode Dreadwing Rising from my usual research MSN TV or googled it then I browsed and read like a million articles I also scanned through forums also.

Also if you look at it. It actually make sense for Dreadwing to appear now.

I think Dreadwing will be hired by Megatron to bring in Starscream cause Starscream has a lot of valuable information if that were to fall in the wrong hands say MECH it could give them what they need to complete project Chimera.

Dreadwing is a bountyhunter a seeker from what I gather of him he is older unknown how old he is probably close to Megs or Optimus maybe around Ratchet in terms of age.

I cant wait to see his Alt.mode or his robotic mode or how Tony Todd will voice Dreadwing.

Also concerning The Key to Vector Sigma. I say this will be way diffrent than its G1 counterpart but it will probably have the same type of abilities as the G1 version did also it will look diffrent.

Also more than likely hidden somewhere on Earth or possibly on the Moon or kept hidden by humans somewere is another possibility.

Like Saber said OP just gave Jack the Key cause he didnt think he would return or something would go wrong. Also he was impresed with Jack cause of how much he reminds of himself and also how much Jack has matured.

Also in Season 2 I hear Miko will be given a slight push this go around.

Also just cause Dreadwing make an appeareance in Dreadwing Rising dosent mean he will be a full team memeber.

Like I said Dreadwing is a Bounty Hunter more than likely he will be somewhat like Lockdown in Animated.

A Loner who dosent work well with others.

[Sabrblade]

Saber I found the episode Dreadwing Rising from my usual research MSN TV or googled it then I browsed and read like a million articles I also scanned through forums also.

It doesn't help if you don't give us a link. That's how the Internet works. Again, you never listen when we give you advice.

Also if you look at it. It actually make sense for Dreadwing to appear now.

What? We don't know ANYTHING about him beyond his name. You made up the whole bounty hunter thing.

Dreadwing is a bountyhunter a seeker from what I gather of him he is older unknown how old he is probably close to Megs or Optimus maybe around Ratchet in terms of age.

Prove it! Take us to your source! Simply taking your word for it is not how things work on this website.

Also more than likely hidden somewhere on Earth or possibly on the Moon or kept hidden by humans somewere is another possibility.

What, you mean Vector Sigma? He's on Cybertron.

[F Prime]

Saber I found the episode Dreadwing Rising from my usual research MSN TV or googled it then I browsed and read like a million articles I also scanned through forums also.

I couldn't find this...I found a few references to Rise of Dreadwing but they were all on message boards with people speculating that this was episode 27. Also mentioned on a site called AnimeVice, but it listed the episode as airing in November, so I don't think they know what they are talking about. If you have a reliable link please post it...I am pretty excited for Dreadwing and would love to know when he appears.

Like I said Dreadwing is a Bounty Hunter more than likely he will be somewhat like Lockdown in Animated.

A Loner who dosent work well with others.

Where is this information from? Dreadwing was the combined form of Darkwing and Dreadwind in G1 and had no personality of his own, in G2 he was a pacifist talked into joining the Decepticons by Smokescreen, we don't know much about him from RiD except that he was the combined form of Smokejumper and Dreadwind, in Energon he was a clone of Mirage with no real "job description", in Classics-verse he led some hunting animal-bots, and he is a low-intelligence prankster in the movie-verse. I have not heard of him as a Bounty Hunter before....the closest I found was the eagle-bot in classics-verse and the fact that in the Marvel-verse Darkwing and Dreadwind lured robots to the Mecannibals and later tracked down Starscream's body for Megs.

[Rodimus2006]

The place I found Rise of Dreadwing now just says TBA and then says TBA Feb 2012

It could have been a mistake on thier end about the leak I found It took me forever to find what I did find.

I went through a million sites & forums cause I am just as excited as anyone else to see what is in store for Season 2.

I gathered the info I found about Dreadwing from various forums and I pieced it together and I came up with that Dreadwing is more than likely a Bounty Hunter sent in to retrieve Starscream.

Remember Megatron wasnt all to happy about Scream going Rogue being on his own he has a lot of valuable info if fallen into the wrong hands could be devestating to Megatrons plans.

Or say if MECH got him they could use his vast knowledge to complete Project Chimera.

Also I know that Dreadwing is a Seeker but what I dont know is what his Alt.Mode or is Robotic Mode will be like.

What I meant was when I said Vector Prime Saber I was comparing His age and I said that Dreadwing could be around his age or around that age.

But I dont know seeing as we havent seen any concept art for Dreadwing it is hard to speculate on his looks or his age.

Look I found stuff before without providing proof and a few days later it always gets right with the official source.

So I would take Rise of Dreadwing seriously has the name of episode 27.

Also it fits look at the last episode Saber Rising Darkness prt 3 it said to be continued so wouldnt Rise of Dreadwing fit in with that as a continuation.

Rising Darkness then Rise of Dreadwing being prt 4 of the continuing story arc.

[Sabrblade]

The place I found Rise of Dreadwing now just says TBA and then says TBA Feb 2012

And this place would be what, exactly?

It could have been a mistake on thier end about the leak I found It took me forever to find what I did find.

I went through a million sites & forums cause I am just as excited as anyone else to see what is in store for Season 2.

I gathered the info I found about Dreadwing from various forums and I pieced it together and I came up with that Dreadwing is more than likely a Bounty Hunter sent in to retrieve Starscream.

It doesn't help if you don't provide direct linked source to back your claims.

Remember Megatron wasnt all to happy about Scream going Rogue being on his own he has a lot of valuable info if fallen into the wrong hands could be devestating to Megatrons plans.

Yeah, he sure seemed real eager to get back Starscream in all those episodes where he paid no attention to Starscream's absense[/sarcasm]

Or say if MECH got him they could use his vast knowledge to complete Project Chimera.

Mere speculation at this point.

Also I know that Dreadwing is a Seeker but what I dont know is what his Alt.Mode or is Robotic Mode will be like.

Nothing has confirmed Dreadwing as being a Seeker.

What I meant was when I said Vector Prime Saber I was comparing His age and I said that Dreadwing could be around his age or around that age.

But I dont know seeing as we havent seen any concept art for Dreadwing it is hard to speculate on his looks or his age.

Irrelevant.

Look I found stuff before without providing proof and a few days later it always gets right with the official source.

It's been a few days and none of what you said has come true.

So I would take Rise of Dreadwing seriously has the name of episode 27.

Not until you show us exactly where you found it this claim of "I got it from millions of places" doesn't cut it.

Also it fits look at the last episode Saber Rising Darkness prt 3 it said to be continued so wouldnt Rise of Dreadwing fit in with that as a continuation.

Rising Darkness then Rise of Dreadwing being prt 4 of the continuing story arc.

"Rising Darkness" my foot. It was "One Shall Rise". Do you still not yet see why we don't take your word seriously?

[Shadowman]

Do you still not yet see why we don't take your word seriously?

Because he takes bits of things from various posts of random forums, fails to cite his sources, then pads it out with conjecture and wild theories? Then, when we call him out on it, pretends like it was never that big of a deal anyway, but still persists in posting his theories as news?

Though I did notice he's been making an effort not to go off on tangents that have nothing to do with the subject at hand.

Look I found stuff before without providing proof and a few days later it always gets right with the official source.

I don't recall that ever happening.

[F Prime]

Look I found stuff before without providing proof and a few days later it always gets right with the official source.

Can you give a link to one of those threads? (Sorry, but given that this entire conversation has been about unprovided links I *had* to ask.)

[Sabrblade]

Look I found stuff before without providing proof and a few days later it always gets right with the official source.

Can you give a link to one of those threads? (Sorry, but given that this entire conversation has been about unprovided links I *had* to ask.)

Knowing him, he'll problaby just link to the main site page of some place like TFW2005 or TFormers, instead of any specific forum thread page.

[Bulkhead]

I hope they add another Autobot in season 2.

[Deltabot]

One thing that I totally think they should do is somehow figure out how to translate Bumblebee's beeps into English, or have Bumblebee gain what all the other Autobots have that allow them to talk. And the person who played Bumblebee was Dan Gilvezan.

[Shadowman]

One thing that I totally think they should do is somehow figure out how to translate Bumblebee's beeps into English, or have Bumblebee gain what all the other Autobots have that allow them to talk. And the person who played Bumblebee was Dan Gilvezan.

The idea is that they wanted him to be more like his movie version, to create a better sense of familiarity with new viewers. The justification on the show is that his vocal processor is damaged, which I doubt is any coincidence, is the same as in the movies.

Yes, they should fix Bumblebee. No, it shouldn't be Dan Gilvezan. Yes, it should be Johnny Yong Bosch.

[Sabrblade]

The idea is that they wanted him to be more like his movie version, to create a better sense of familiarity with new viewers. The justification on the show is that his vocoder is damaged.

Fixed. Twas "vocal processor/voice capacitor" in the movieverse, "vocoder" in Aligned.

Yes, they should fix Bumblebee. No, it shouldn't be Dan Gilvezan. Yes, it should be Johnny Yong Bosch.

Word!

[BeastProwl]

okay, Dreadwing aside, Do you think it's a possability for Optimus to get a Super mode in this series? And if so, do you think it will affect the toy badly like Ultimate OP, or not so much, like Wing Blade? It's been my experience thus far that only Japan can nail down good super modes. The only good American Super mode, I think, Was Animated Wing Blade, and we never even got a stateside release of the toy.
Wait, Animated was american based, right?

[Shadowman]

okay, Dreadwing aside, Do you think it's a possability for Optimus to get a Super mode in this series? And if so, do you think it will affect the toy badly like Ultimate OP, or not so much, like Wing Blade? It's been my experience thus far that only Japan can nail down good super modes. The only good American Super mode, I think, Was Animated Wing Blade, and we never even got a stateside release of the toy.

I hope not. Optimus shouldn't need a Super Mode to get by.

Wait, Animated was american based, right?

Yep, first NA-made series since Beast Machines.

The idea is that they wanted him to be more like his movie version, to create a better sense of familiarity with new viewers. The justification on the show is that his vocoder is damaged.

Fixed. Twas "vocal processor/voice capacitor" in the movieverse, "vocoder" in Aligned.

Same thing with a different technobabble name. And when has Transformers ever been consistent with its technobabble?

[Zequem]

Just to make sure: Johnny Yong Bosch voiced Bumblebee in WFC, right? If so, he has to definitely do the voice for Bumblebee in Prime too. I don't really demand Bumblebee to speak in Prime, even though it seems likely as there's going to be a two-parter about how he lost his voice, but rather have him communicate better. For me, it would be enough if he could speak but his vocoder might give up any moment and the rest is static or the same BLEE-BLOP-BEE he has been doing for the first season. He did so in Exiles, so all it needs is Ratchet to fix Bumblebee's vocoder little by little.

[BeastProwl]

I hope not. Optimus shouldn't need a Super Mode to get by.

It would still be cool to see, Plus if the fallen and dreadwing DID arrive, well, he'd def. need SOMETHING

Yep, first NA-made series since Beast Machines.

huh. And beast wars wasn't was it? Were was it made, canada?

[BeastProwl]

Just to make sure: Johnny Yong Bosch voiced Bumblebee in WFC, right? If so, he has to definitely do the voice for Bumblebee in Prime too. I don't really demand Bumblebee to speak in Prime, even though it seems likely as there's going to be a two-parter about how he lost his voice, but rather have him communicate better. For me, it would be enough if he could speak but his vocoder might give up any moment and the rest is static or the same BLEE-BLOP-BEE he has been doing for the first season. He did so in Exiles, so all it needs is Ratchet to fix Bumblebee's vocoder little by little.

He does alot of voice work, the black ranger, Ichigo, he was in Naruto, guy even has a band. He's all over the place.

[Shadowman]

I hope not. Optimus shouldn't need a Super Mode to get by.

It would still be cool to see, Plus if the fallen and dreadwing DID arrive, well, he'd def. need SOMETHING

Not really. He got along just fine before RID came along and started the trend of Optimus having a super mode.

Yep, first NA-made series since Beast Machines.

huh. And beast wars wasn't was it? Were was it made, canada?

Well, yeah. But Beast Machines came after Beast Wars, so BW really relevant to this.

And yes, Canada, which is why I said NA instead of just America.

Just to make sure: Johnny Yong Bosch voiced Bumblebee in WFC, right? If so, he has to definitely do the voice for Bumblebee in Prime too. I don't really demand Bumblebee to speak in Prime, even though it seems likely as there's going to be a two-parter about how he lost his voice, but rather have him communicate better. For me, it would be enough if he could speak but his vocoder might give up any moment and the rest is static or the same BLEE-BLOP-BEE he has been doing for the first season. He did so in Exiles, so all it needs is Ratchet to fix Bumblebee's vocoder little by little.

He does alot of voice work, the black ranger, Ichigo, he was in Naruto, guy even has a band. He's all over the place.

Vash in Trigun was his breakout role, at least the one that got him into dubbing anime.