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[Sabrblade]

Still, I felt like they were a valid threat.

That's cuz Animated wanted to portray the Decepticons as unrealistically brutish juggernauts that needed multiple enemies in order to bring down just one, whereas Prime went the angle of making both sides be battle hardened war veterans more on an even level of size and physical fighting prowess. The latter is the more realistic one since that's how it is with soldiers in real life. Otherwise, the United States military would have fought against ogres and trolls instead of humans back in every war we've fought in.

In Prime, there was hardly ever a sense of urgency. Every Autobot felt like they were being protected by the integrity of the writers. It never felt "real". It was always like there was something at the last moment to save every Autobot, every single time.

The same could be said for every Decepticon who mattered. Those who died in the show were either unimportant plot devices or (in cases like Dreadwing and Megatron) at the end of their stories and at the necessary point for their lives to reach their end.

Starscream, Knock Out, Airachnid, Shockwave, Soundwave, and Megatron (till the final episode) were no less safe than any of the main Autobots.

Skyquake, Makeshift, Hardshell, and eventually Breakdown were all no more important than Cliffjumper, all serving as sacrificial lambs for the sake of the plot rather than being actual characters in their own right (minus Breakdown, who did get some character focus before he was axed).

Dreadwing is the only character in this show who received a meaningful demise.

Even when Bulkhead was injured, it only took like 3 episodes until he was back to normal.

That was Hasbro's fault (the toy company, rather than the studio). They sprung the whole Predacons deal on the writers about midway through season 2, forcing the writers to take nearly everything they had planned out ahead for the show and condense/cut it all down to wrap up at the end of the season, so as to make room for the Predacon stuff in season 3. This resulted in things like Bulkhead's injury being put on fast forward, MECH's storyline being quickly disposed of, and nearly everything that the episode called "Armada" featured being wrapped up in that one go.

In other words, the rushed feeling of the second half of season 2 was all due to the higher ups wanting "to sell toys".

[kaijuguy19]

In Animated, the Autobots rarely ever won until the very last episode, with multiple deaths along the way.

Need I bring this list back out again? -

1 - Autobots stop Megatron from stealing the AllSpark
2 - Autobots destroy the giant nanotech monster
3 - Autobots defeat Starscream and keep the AllSpark safe from him
4 - Autobots thwart Megatron's attack on their base
5 - Autobots defeat Meltdown
6 - Autobots thwart Megatron's plan to use the Dinobots against them
7 - Autobots defeat Lockdown and send him packing
8 - Autobots stop Nanosec from delivering the Destronium to Megatron
9 - Autobots defeat Blackarachnia and get the Key back from her
10 - Bulkhead defeats Soundwave, foiling Megatron's scheme with him
11 - Autobots defeat Lugnut and Blitzwing, keeping the AllSpark safe
12 - Autobots, Sari, and Fanzone thwart Meltdown's plans with the Dinobots
13 - Autobots get Bulkhead's body back from the Headmaster, but he flees having lost, while they save the city from a nuclear crisis
14 - Autobots destroy the Space Barnacles
15 - Decepticons revitalize Megatron
16 - Optimus defeats Megatron and disperses the AllSpark
17 - Autobots convince the Elite Guard of their story and stop the rampaging police bots
18 - Optimus saves Sentinel's body from the Headmaster, who once again avoids arrest
19 - Autobots convince the Elite Guard of the Decepticon threat on Earth and capture Starscream
20 - Ratchet gets Wreck-Gar to be a hero and saves the city
21 - Autobots and Sari stop Master Disaster, get his AllSpark fragment, and beat Blitzwing
22 - Constructicons go on their own, no victory is won for either side
23 - Starscream tricks all sides with his clones, but the Autobots prevent them from destroying the city
24 - Swindle is bested by BB, Sari, and SUV; the latter of whom are also sent to jail
25 - Wasp fails to reach the space bridge, but evades recapture, and no victory is won by any Earth-based faction
26 - Meltdown is defeated, while Blackarachnia flees after her own plan is foiled
27 - Sari outsmarts the Constructicons
28 - Episode ends on a cliffhanger, no victory is won in this episode
29 - The space bridge is destroyed, and several characters from both sides are lost into the portal
30 - Episode ends on a cliffhanger, no victory is won for either side
31 - Optimus beats the Headmaster for good, Sari destroys the Rock Lord, then cliffhanger
32 - Sari is stopped by the Bots, and the Con-controlled Omega Supreme is outsmarted and teleported away
33 - Dirt Boss's plan is defeated and blows up on Dinobot Island, but Lugnut gets away thanks to Ramjet
34 - Wasp's plan is thwarted, but he flees after his loss
35 - Several Decepticons are captured, but Lockdown flees from capture
36 - Blackarachnia and Waspinator are blown to an "Unknown Locale"
37 - Episode ends on a cliffhanger, no victory is won for either side
38 - Autobots are freed from Soundwave's control, and Optimus crushes him (though, Laserbeak takes his final component away and is never heard from again)
39 - All the captured Cons are recaptured and sent to prison on Cybertron, except for the missing Lugnut
40 - Ratchet, Fanzone, and Jazz keep the Magnus Hammer and Ultra Magnus safe from Shockwave, but he escapes with Arcee
41 - Episode ends on a cliffhanger, no victory is won for either side
42 - Megatron and his cronies are defeated and captured, Starscream dies, the AllSpark is reconstituted, Prowl sacrifces himself and saves Optimus, and the Supreme clones are destroyed

In this series, Decepticon victories rank about 9 out of 42 episodes.

A retreat is not a victory if it's the only option one has left after their original plan was thwarted.

Still, I felt like they were a valid threat. In Prime, there was hardly ever a sense of urgency. Every Autobot felt like they were being protected by the integrity of the writers. It never felt "real". It was always like there was something at the last moment to save every Autobot, every single time. Even when Bulkhead was injured, it only took like 3 episodes until he was back to normal.

Truth be told I did felt that an Autobot could possible die or at least be in a rather intense moment as the series went on. Like I honestly thought that Arcee would bite the bullet back in Partners from the way the scene played out just to name an example. And you can't deny how sometimes the villains can be cleaver enough to pull off a challenge to the Autobots when they played their cards right like how Starscream used his wits to get the Cyberkeys and how Knockout was able to use the sonic relic to deliver some beatdowns to both Arcee and Bee. And then there's the Season 2 finale obviously. And like I've mentioned about what happened with Season 2 with BH bing dropped on them halfway that was probably the case why Bulkhead's condition seemed rushed because it was likely meant to go on longer.

I guess that's just how I viwed the series. And to be honest I really didn't feel any true urgency in most animated shows even if they are played right somehow with a few exceptions.

[Shadowman]

"Experience" isn't what I'd call it. Starscream has millenia of combat humiliation.

Actually, each character in this universe is a total bad ass (maybe except for Knock Out ). And character don't loose this status even after humiliating defeat. Starscream is actually quite effective, he owned Arcee and prove to be a challenge for Bumblebee, and he's missiles are on of the best inner weapons in the series! He simply prefered using hes cunning and hit & Run tactics.

And yet he's never actually won a fight in the entire series.

[Sabrblade]

"Experience" isn't what I'd call it. Starscream has millenia of combat humiliation.

Actually, each character in this universe is a total bad ass (maybe except for Knock Out ). And character don't loose this status even after humiliating defeat. Starscream is actually quite effective, he owned Arcee and prove to be a challenge for Bumblebee, and he's missiles are on of the best inner weapons in the series! He simply prefered using hes cunning and hit & Run tactics.

And yet he's never actually won a fight in the entire series.

And for those who'd say "He beat Cliffjumper" as a counterargument, he did not fight Cliffjumper in that scene. Cliff was in no condition to fight after being caught in such massive energon explosion, practically being carried over to Starscream like a ragdoll. And Screamer's kill was only because Starscream doesn't trim his finger nails. So, had Cliff been in better shape then or had he not had lady's nails, Cliff might not have died so easily.

[Shadowman]

"Experience" isn't what I'd call it. Starscream has millenia of combat humiliation.

Actually, each character in this universe is a total bad ass (maybe except for Knock Out ). And character don't loose this status even after humiliating defeat. Starscream is actually quite effective, he owned Arcee and prove to be a challenge for Bumblebee, and he's missiles are on of the best inner weapons in the series! He simply prefered using hes cunning and hit & Run tactics.

And yet he's never actually won a fight in the entire series.

And for those who'd say "He beat Cliffjumper" as a counterargument, he did not fight Cliffjumper in that scene. Cliff was in no condition to fight after being caught in such massive energon explosion, practically being carried over to Starscream like a ragdoll. And Screamer's kill was only because Starscream doesn't trim his finger nails. So, had Cliff been in better shape then or had he not had lady's nails, Cliff might not have died so easily.

Yup, it's a testament to just how hilariously awful this Starscream is, the only fight he can actually brag about was really just an execution on a victim who was already nearly dead by the time Starscream got to him.

[Sabrblade]

Yup, it's a testament to just how hilariously awful this Starscream is, the only fight he can actually brag about was really just an execution on a victim who was already nearly dead by the time Starscream got to him.

And yet, despite all of his shortcomings, we can't help but like the guy, finding him to be one of the best written, best developed, and best performed characters in the show.

[TurboMMaster]

And yet he's never actually won a fight in the entire series.

He beats Arcee in Partners and later Bumblebee in "Operation Bumblebee part 2.". He also owned Wheeljack in Jackhammer in "Darkest Hour". He killed two Vehicons in "Orion Pax, part 1", even Optimus had problem with him durng air battle, and was able to shunt Preadking with he's missle... Knock Out from the other hand is entirely useless. He is a coward, don't have any kind of long rage weapons, and also, is acting like a retard...

And yet, despite all of his shortcomings, we can't help but like the guy, finding him to be one of the best written, best developed, and best performed characters in the show.

Propably because he is dynamic character. It is only me or in Seazon 3, hes realtion with Megatron is kinds Father-son relation? They are pretty much like Homer and Bart

That's cuz Animated wanted to portray the Decepticons as unrealistically brutish juggernauts that needed multiple enemies in order to bring down just one, whereas Prime went the angle of making both sides be battle hardened war veterans more on an even level of size and physical fighting prowess.

And this is why Bulkhead was able to beat both Lugnut and Shockwave, this is why Optimus onwed Megatron is final fight so easily?

For me, Decepticons in Animates last that long only becuase of Prime's Team lack of combat experience and general lack of Elite Guard considering Decepticons seriously.

[Shadowman]

He beats Arcee in Partners

Uh...no he did not. Arcee let him have the upper hand, then she beat the hell out of him. In fact, he was about to die if Bumblebee didn't cause Arcee to hesitate. Starscream then retreated.

and later Bumblebee in "Operation Bumblebee part 2.".

When Bumblebee was incapable of using his weapons.

He also owned Wheeljack in Jackhammer in "Darkest Hour".

He had backup with that.

He killed two Vehicons in "Orion Pax, part 1",

In the same episode, Orion kills two Vehicons by accident. They're the only fighters more incompetent than Starscream.

even Optimus had problem with him durng air battle

Optimus was reverted to Orion Pax, he had lost all of his combat experience.

and was able to shunt Preadking with he's missle...

Is this the same Predaking that casually smacks Starscream around?

Knock Out from the other hand is entirely useless. He is a coward, don't have any kind of long rage weapons, and also, is acting like a retard...

Knock Out is a medic, like Ratchet, not a fighter, like Starscream is allegedly supposed to be.

[Sabrblade]

And this is why Bulkhead was able to beat both Lugnut and Shockwave, this is why Optimus onwed Megatron is final fight so easily?

For me, Decepticons in Animates last that long only becuase of Prime's Team lack of combat experience and general lack of Elite Guard considering Decepticons seriously.

Animated also made it a point to show the Autobots getting better at fighting Decepticons gradually over time. By the season 1 finale, they had gotten a better hang of combating Decepticons--except for Megatron, who was freshly rebuilt to full power and so still a major obstacle for them at the time. Bulkhead and Optimus had each gotten much stronger over time and so could hold their own much better than they could when they first fought the Cons.

Plus, the final fight had Optimus armed with the all powerful Magnus Hammer, which further helped to put him on even footing with Megatron. And, unlike Optimus, Megatron had gotten caught in the explosion of the lugnut Supreme, and had thusly been greatly weakened by it.

even Optimus had problem with him durng air battle

Optimus was reverted to Orion Pax, he had lost all of his combat experience.

I think he was referring to a different episode since Optimus didn't have an "air battle" with Starscream during the Orion Pax event. Like, episode 64 or something, in which Optimus engaged Starscream when seeking out the Nemesis, and then was bested by Starscream.

[TurboMMaster]

He beats Arcee in Partners

Uh...no he did not. Arcee let him have the upper hand, then she beat the hell out of him. In fact, he was about to die if Bumblebee didn't cause Arcee to hesitate. Starscream then retreated.

Yet, he still damaged her far more than she damaged him, and he easily owned her first. He did'nt kill her only because of his arrogance.

[qopte]

Knock Out from the other hand is entirely useless. He is a coward, don't have any kind of long rage weapons, and also, is acting like a retard...

Knock Out is a medic, like Ratchet, not a fighter, like Starscream is allegedly supposed to be.[/quote]

[TurboMMaster]

He beats Arcee in Partners

Uh...no he did not. Arcee let him have the upper hand, then she beat the hell out of him. In fact, he was about to die if Bumblebee didn't cause Arcee to hesitate. Starscream then retreated.

Yet, he still damaged her far more than she damaged him, and he easily owned her first. He did'nt kill her only because of his arrogance.

Knock Out from the other hand is entirely useless. He is a coward, don't have any kind of long rage weapons, and also, is acting like a retard...

Knock Out is a medic, like Ratchet, not a fighter, like Starscream is allegedly supposed to be.

Beign a medic isn't a excuse. Knock Out without additional backup simply is to weak to live.

[Shadowman]

He beats Arcee in Partners

Uh...no he did not. Arcee let him have the upper hand, then she beat the hell out of him. In fact, he was about to die if Bumblebee didn't cause Arcee to hesitate. Starscream then retreated.

Yet, he still damaged her far more than she damaged him, and he easily owned her first. He did'nt kill her only because of his arrogance.

No, he didn't kill her, because she started beating the living hell out of him. He didn't win that fight, he almost died, then retreated. If landing a couple hits, then nearly dying and retreating counts as a win, then the Decepticons have won every fight in the entire franchise.

[Shadowman]

Knock Out from the other hand is entirely useless. He is a coward, don't have any kind of long rage weapons, and also, is acting like a retard...

Knock Out is a medic, like Ratchet, not a fighter, like Starscream is allegedly supposed to be.

Beign a medic isn't a excuse. Knock Out without additional backup simply is to weak to live.

Because he's a doctor, not a warrior. Aside from being on Synthetic Energon, how many fights do you see Ratchet winning?

[TurboMMaster]

No, he didn't kill her, because she started beating the living hell out of him. He didn't win that fight, he almost died, then retreated. If landing a couple hits, then nearly dying and retreating counts as a win, then the Decepticons have won every fight in the entire franchise.

Only because he gave her time. He simply too much wish to Arcee's end was as miserable as possible, so he lost he's chance to finish this at all. This is more personality problem. And alos, he owned her in Deadlock. And she owned Arcee too. He prove himsewlf without any kind of backup of power-up, unlike Knock Out.

[Shadowman]

No, he didn't kill her, because she started beating the living hell out of him. He didn't win that fight, he almost died, then retreated. If landing a couple hits, then nearly dying and retreating counts as a win, then the Decepticons have won every fight in the entire franchise.

Only because he gave her time. He simply too much wish to Arcee's end was as miserable as possible, so he lost he's chance to finish this at all. This is more personality problem.

And it's why he never actually managed to win any fights.

And alos, he owned her in Deadlock. And she owned Arcee too.

Uh...what?

He prove himsewlf without any kind of backup of power-up, unlike Knock Out.

Being more badass than a medic doesn't say much...

[TurboMMaster]

No, he didn't kill her, because she started beating the living hell out of him. He didn't win that fight, he almost died, then retreated. If landing a couple hits, then nearly dying and retreating counts as a win, then the Decepticons have won every fight in the entire franchise.

Only because he gave her time. He simply too much wish to Arcee's end was as miserable as possible, so he lost he's chance to finish this at all. This is more personality problem.

And it's why he never actually managed to win any fights.

Finding excuse isn't change anything. Starscream still was a winner at least few times. Everything else is only a detail.

And alos, he owned her in Deadlock. And she owned Arcee too.

Uh...what?

I mean: Airanchid, he owned her in Crossfire. So he essentialy beaten both female character AT LEAST one time for each of them.

He prove himsewlf without any kind of backup of power-up, unlike Knock Out.

Being more badass than a medic doesn't say much...

Say this to Ratchet...

[Shadowman]

No, he didn't kill her, because she started beating the living hell out of him. He didn't win that fight, he almost died, then retreated. If landing a couple hits, then nearly dying and retreating counts as a win, then the Decepticons have won every fight in the entire franchise.

Only because he gave her time. He simply too much wish to Arcee's end was as miserable as possible, so he lost he's chance to finish this at all. This is more personality problem.

And it's why he never actually managed to win any fights.

Finding excuse isn't change anything. Starscream still was a winner at least few times. Everything else is only a detail.

Yes "only" details. Like who won or lost.

I mean: Airanchid, he owned her in Crossfire. So he essentialy beaten both female character AT LEAST one time for each of them.

You haven't named one time when he beat Arcee, though.

Say it to Ratchet...

Ratchet hasn't won any fights either, at least without Synthetic Energon.

[Dead Metal]

And this is why Bulkhead was able to beat both Lugnut and Shockwave, this is why Optimus onwed Megatron is final fight so easily?

For me, Decepticons in Animates last that long only becuase of Prime's Team lack of combat experience and general lack of Elite Guard considering Decepticons seriously.

Animated also made it a point to show the Autobots getting better at fighting Decepticons gradually over time. By the season 1 finale, they had gotten a better hang of combating Decepticons--except for Megatron, who was freshly rebuilt to full power and so still a major obstacle for them at the time. Bulkhead and Optimus had each gotten much stronger over time and so could hold their own much better than they could when they first fought the Cons.

Plus, the final fight had Optimus armed with the all powerful Magnus Hammer, which further helped to put him on even footing with Megatron. And, unlike Optimus, Megatron had gotten caught in the explosion of the lugnut Supreme, and had thusly been greatly weakened by it.

I would like to add that in Animated the main Autobot team where just a maintenance crew, the only ones with actual combat abilities where Ratchet (old ass retired cranky medic), Prowl (loner, completely unable to work in a team), and Optimus (never finished trianing and zero actual combat experience). While the Decepticons they encountered (save for the ones created during the show), where all long-time combat proven warriors.
This is like construction workers armed with only their equipment going up against a team of marines armed to the teeth.

Do any of you guys find the Prime style to be very derrivitive and unimaginative? Some people I've heard at some sites say that too many characters have the samey proportions and samey design cues with samey faces that are badly animated. Like Optimus and Bee being largely inspired by the movies but in hindsight did nothing to make them stand out from the past versions if not better.

Also the same people gripe about the transformation shcemes not being unqiue to each characer in the slightest like, nobody started arms first, legs last or legs first, torso and arms last. They just exploded apart and reformed with no sense of weight or flow like they never transform at all with no sense of countinuity making the gimmick of the brand unimpressive in the long run.

I know this has to do with personal opinions and all and let's face it we all have different tastes in style. It's just some of these complaints are somehow valid like with Optimus,Bee and Megatron being largely inspired by the movies though at the same time we have characters like Arcee,Soundwave and Breakdown not being like their G1 counterparts.

Nope, I think the style is one of the high points of the show.
True Megatron, Optimus and Bee are very similar to their movie incarnations, however each design is still kinda unique and perfect for the character.

Megatron however, looks more like a mixture of Animated pre-Earth Megatron and G1 Megatron, and if you really look at the design you'll notice how his body is perfectly suited for hand-to-hand combat:

• Powerful arms (Movie Megatron is known for his comically crappy arms) perfect for punching and ripping enemies from limb to limb
• His fingers each miss a piece, so instead of having fingers like us that are made up of three pieces and joints, his are made up off two pieces and joints, and one of those pieces are literately just spikes to dig into an enemy and ripp him apart
• His front is heavily armored, while his back has the bulk of exposed joints and gaps for movement.
• The "twisted" more "evil" versions of G1 Megatron features, like the sides of his stomach, his legs looking like gun handles, etc

And what's that about everyone transforming the same? That kinda reads like you don't like it that they just transform without having an incredibly silly 5 minute long transformation scene in order to fill out the run time of each episode and save on animation costs.

[Avensis-Mahiya]

Even when Bulkhead was injured, it only took like 3 episodes until he was back to normal.

That was Hasbro's fault (the toy company, rather than the studio). They sprung the whole Predacons deal on the writers about midway through season 2, forcing the writers to take nearly everything they had planned out ahead for the show and condense/cut it all down to wrap up at the end of the season, so as to make room for the Predacon stuff in season 3. This resulted in things like Bulkhead's injury being put on fast forward, MECH's storyline being quickly disposed of, and nearly everything that the episode called "Armada" featured being wrapped up in that one go.

In other words, the rushed feeling of the second half of season 2 was all due to the higher ups wanting "to sell toys".

:I that explains a lot. Not too pleased with this, I'll be real. I get it the fact that Hasbro is a company that needs to sell toys, but this is fragging ridiculous and a disservice to the viewers.

[TurboMMaster]

No, he didn't kill her, because she started beating the living hell out of him. He didn't win that fight, he almost died, then retreated. If landing a couple hits, then nearly dying and retreating counts as a win, then the Decepticons have won every fight in the entire franchise.

Only because he gave her time. He simply too much wish to Arcee's end was as miserable as possible, so he lost he's chance to finish this at all. This is more personality problem.

And it's why he never actually managed to win any fights.

Finding excuse isn't change anything. Starscream still was a winner at least few times.

Yes "only" details. Like who won or lost.

Everything else is only a detail. He didn't shunted Preadking? He didn't blast off Airanchid? How you can don't understand that Starscream missiles in this Universe ARE deadly? Starscream is deadly in hes Jet Mode, is cunning, quite agile (he was able to dodge Predaking's flame!) and still is capable to beign competent fighter in fist to fist combat. And that was my point. He's man problem is both he's arrogance and cowardice.

I mean: Airanchid, he owned her in Crossfire. So he essentialy beaten both female character AT LEAST one time for each of them.

You haven't named one time when he beat Arcee, though.

Essentialy, first fight was in fact two fights. Firstly Starscream easily knock her down WITHOUT USING WEAPONS, he could easily even kill her by then. But he seems to much enjoy this moment and gave Arcee time to recovery. Then she beat him using her blade. Yet still, Starscream instead of try fight bak, decide to manipulate her. Also noticed that Starscream did'nt use neither his claws nor he's long rage weapons. If he decide to do that, our two-wheeler could be crap by now

Say it to Ratchet...

Ratchet hasn't won any fights either, at least without Synthetic Energon.

Well, heshunted Ratchet with nthing more tha fist, also, he killed a lot of Terrorcons. He survived direct beat-down of Predaking, and was in shape to be a challenge to Shockwave (Witch is a TANK!!!).

And about Medics in this universe... Isn't this ridicilous that both doctors in this universe don't have any kind of long rage weapons. Considering anyone in Teams' Prime is a warrior it should be considered. I think Shotgun feets Ratchet wery well. And finding Knock Out he's own gun on Nemesis isn't sound problematic to me.

Megatron however, looks more like a mixture of Animated pre-Earth Megatron and G1 Megatron, and if you really look at the design you'll notice how his body is perfectly suited for hand-to-hand combat:

Powerful arms (Movie Megatron is known for his comically crappy arms) perfect for punching and ripping enemies from limb to limb
His fingers each miss a piece, so instead of having fingers like us that are made up of three pieces and joints, his are made up off two pieces and joints, and one of those pieces are literately just spikes to dig into an enemy and ripp him apart
His front is heavily armored, while his back has the bulk of exposed joints and gaps for movement.
The "twisted" more "evil" versions of G1 Megatron features, like the sides of his stomach, his legs looking like gun handles, etc

So essentialy you wanna say, that Prime's Megatron is mixture of movie Megatron and G1 Megatron. It's really hard to belive anypne could consider Animated Megatron as a original design. Essentialy they both are 2007 Megatron with G1 features. Thought later Prime Megatron become very similiar in concept to Cybertron Megatron, especially in Predacons Rising.

And there is one thing very dark in Prime :Megatron this time really outlived Optimus. I quess nobody expect that... This is even worst if you remember what Megatron did to Cybertron, and that Autobots were underdogs of this conflict. Essentialy Megatron not only have upper hand most of the time, but also he find a way out of paying for he's crimes. At least in some way...

[Sabrblade]

I'm looking at that post and, it's the not the formatting that hurts the worst, but the grammar.

[Dead Metal]

Megatron however, looks more like a mixture of Animated pre-Earth Megatron and G1 Megatron, and if you really look at the design you'll notice how his body is perfectly suited for hand-to-hand combat:

Powerful arms (Movie Megatron is known for his comically crappy arms) perfect for punching and ripping enemies from limb to limb
His fingers each miss a piece, so instead of having fingers like us that are made up of three pieces and joints, his are made up off two pieces and joints, and one of those pieces are literately just spikes to dig into an enemy and ripp him apart
His front is heavily armored, while his back has the bulk of exposed joints and gaps for movement.
The "twisted" more "evil" versions of G1 Megatron features, like the sides of his stomach, his legs looking like gun handles, etc

So essentialy you wanna say, that Prime's Megatron is mixture of movie Megatron and G1 Megatron. It's really hard to belive anypne could consider Animated Megatron as a original design. Essentialy they both are 2007 Megatron with G1 features. Thought later Prime Megatron become very similiar in concept to Cybertron Megatron, especially in Predacons Rising.

And there is one thing very dark in Prime :Megatron this time really outlived Optimus. I quess nobody expect that... This is even worst if you remember what Megatron did to Cybertron, and that Autobots were underdogs of this conflict. Essentialy Megatron not only have upper hand most of the time, but also he find a way out of paying for he's crimes. At least in some way...

Why the spoiler tags? Everyone's seen Predacons rising by now.
No sorry, Animated Megatron's Cybertron-mode doesn't look like Movie Megatron, he does however have a head that's very similar to the original Movie Megatron battle-mode head design, as in the one before the "Alien Queen" version we all bitched and complained about till they redesigned it for the final release of the movie.
This

Not the same as this:

And to compare it again:

Prime and Animated Megatron even share the same face shape and design.

[Sabrblade]

Though, I do see how one could connect each of them to Movie 1 Megatron. I'd even be willing to bet that both designs wouldn't be the same had Movie 1 Megatron's design not existed.

Even if neither Animated Megatron nor Prime Megatron pay direct homage to Movie 1 Megatron, I'd consider at least their spikiness to have been inspired, even if loosely, by Movie 1 Megatron.

[Shadowman]

And about Medics in this universe... Isn't this ridicilous that both doctors in this universe don't have any kind of long rage weapons.

That's because doctors aren't warriors. I don't understand how you can't comprehend that. How many times in real life have you seen doctors run around with weapons, getting into shootouts?

[njb902]

And about Medics in this universe... Isn't this ridicilous that both doctors in this universe don't have any kind of long rage weapons.

That's because doctors aren't warriors. I don't understand how you can't comprehend that. How many times in real life have you seen doctors run around with weapons, getting into shootouts?

I have.