william-james88 wrote:Burn wrote:Ultra Markus wrote:jetfire wouldnt be on the list because hes not based on a real jet
but maybe TF prime Skyquake/Dreadwing could be since they appear to be based off real jets
Is the list based solely on "real" jets though? It doesn't explicitly say that.
It doesnt?They all distinguish themselves in either their accuracy, engineering or design. And most of all, these jets look amazing in robot mode and have a very tight alt mode, which is crucial in a jet transformer (all these are based on real jets too).
Burn wrote:william-james88 wrote:Burn wrote:Ultra Markus wrote:jetfire wouldnt be on the list because hes not based on a real jet
but maybe TF prime Skyquake/Dreadwing could be since they appear to be based off real jets
Is the list based solely on "real" jets though? It doesn't explicitly say that.
It doesnt?They all distinguish themselves in either their accuracy, engineering or design. And most of all, these jets look amazing in robot mode and have a very tight alt mode, which is crucial in a jet transformer (all these are based on real jets too).
No, it doesn't.
Putting it in bold doesn't help. You put it in brackets, to me, that's an after thought.
Read what I said, "it doesn't explicitly say that". All you say about this list is that it's the "Top 5 Best Jet Transformers". You haven't clearly defined what a "jet" is to meet your list.
So as I said, ENERGON STARSCREAM FTW.
DarkEnergon wrote:What a great an easily forgotten toy. Pretty sure this is technically a jet!
Yet.Another.Autobot wrote:I am now asking if anyone else has even thought about Thrilling 30s Megatron as the B-2 Stealth Bomber, even as an Honorable Mention?
Burn wrote:I've never understood the obsession some people have with Movie Starscream, sure, the jet mode is nice, but the robot mode is an ugly piece of ****.
BAYSCREAM FANBOYS UNITEMicroraptor wrote:Because people have different opinions? I like the design at least, and this post has more to do with the engineering anyway.Burn wrote:I've never understood the obsession some people have with Movie Starscream, sure, the jet mode is nice, but the robot mode is an ugly piece of ****.
shajaki wrote:BAYSCREAM FANBOYS UNITEMicroraptor wrote:Because people have different opinions? I like the design at least, and this post has more to do with the engineering anyway.Burn wrote:I've never understood the obsession some people have with Movie Starscream, sure, the jet mode is nice, but the robot mode is an ugly piece of ****.
I love the design, and the figures are great. I like him best in the first movie, every scene he's in still gives me goosbumps. In subsequent films, for some reason they decided to make him into the sniveling coward he was in G1
Insurgent wrote:So yeah. If you are talking purely about good toys, the original seeker mould should get it. Specifically, the original green release. Because while the remoulded MP11 version is a better MP and is more screen accurate, the jet mode suffers slightly in the rear, meaning it is a slightly inferior jet toy.
But there are some great choices on this list.
william-james88 wrote:I truly feel the MP seeker (andy version) is one of the most overrated TF toys out there. And I was not the only one to think so.
This might sound odd, but I don't find MP-03 dated. But I do find the MP-11 dated. Maybe because the remolding didn't help the figure in any way besides (a little) cartoon accuracy.william-james88 wrote:I have a question for you. Of all the toys mentioned on the list, including MP 03, which feels more dated?
That is an unfair question. Obviously not, but there are reasons. Namely the complexity would be daunting, and the aftermarket price is sickening. I would however absolutely recommend him to an MP fan with a deep wallet, a Seeker enthusiast, or a real world jet enthusiast.william-james88 wrote:Which would you recomend to newcomers in the hobby?
I've got 5 MP-03's, and I don't find any of them fiddly. And while involved, I love transforming them. But I could see how they border on frustrating. The MP-11 though, you've heard me complain endlessly about their instability so you get no argument from me about that.william-james88 wrote:Because I really feel MP 03 is not a great toy. He is super fiddly, not fun to transform. And any Takara release was pretty pricey. Especially the remolded MP 11.
I have zero problems with his robot mode... aside from those vent kibbles. Admittedly they are frustrating.william-james88 wrote:And I know you were talking about MP03, which does have a great jet mode. But I dont like the robot mode much. I think he looks off, with the feet, lack of decent heels, the receded head. And while I am not a fan of the dangling hip kibble, which I dont think looks good regardless of screen accuracy or not (feels super lazy to me), the kibble I dislike the most are those 2 jet panel kibbles on the side of his air vents next to his head.
shajaki wrote:But hey! It's all opinion Will, and I'm not trying to be argumentative. I just have a huge love on for MP-3 Starscream, and I'll fight for him any day
Yes. Just, yes, positively, absolutely agreed. Those were pure magic at the time, and in a way they still are. Eagle Eye has one of the most fluid transformations ever realized on a smaller scale Transformers toy.SpikeyTigertron wrote:http://www.transformerland.com/wiki/transformers/g2/#skyscorchers "skyscorchers" those were the guys I was thinking of. I'm pretty sure some of them are based of "real modern jets".
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