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I've been waiting a long time for this MP.... just a little longer...

I hope it isnt a big version of the g1 toy...Ihope that you dont just pull the body from the trailer and its done. They need to make the skill level for it the same MP1,

Hmmm...Kinda looks exactly like ......Rodimus Prime. Gotta be honest. Masterpiece never really knocks me off my feet. You know what you are getting. Maybe thats the allure. And yes I do actually own a couple MP's(Skywarp and Ultra Magnus) so I'm not trying to speak outta ignorance.

Looks like an animatioin model to me, but than again I dno't read Japanese so I wouldn't be surprised if it is a toy prototype. Hot Rod is one of my faves so I will probably get him no matter how screwy it is...

Looks boring.

I'm really excited about this.

I would love it if the trailer could add to Masterpiece Hot Rod and make him into Rodimus Prime but think that would be too cool for TakaraTomy to do + they could make more cash if they sell them separately/remolded as has been mentioned before.

Size wise I just hope he isn't the same size as Megatron or Optimus Prime because I preferred Grimlock and the Seekers in terms of height (and only Optimus and Megatron should really have that extra height as they are the original leaders) in my opinion.

Can't wait to see some official pics but think it will be a while yet before any get leaked by one of our Seibertron members in China or Japan who always get their hands on all the new TFs first.

As long as he doesn't "rust" lime my MP-Megs did, I'll be a happy little Skywarp.

I am hoping this will be Hot Rod in vehicle mode that combines with the trailer. How about this for a gimmick? It has two faces, one young and one more mature. There is a slot for the Matrix of Leadership inside his chest with a switch. When you put the Matrix in his chest the face rotates from the young Hot Rod, to the mature Rodimus Prime. I would love that. Throw in a sound clip of Peter Cullen's "Arise, Rodimus Prime" and the toy would be totally worth the price.

now I need a masterpiece skockwave, ginrai, headmasters, brainmasters, etc.

So far it looks a lot like the G1 toy. The robot turns into a tiny portion of the vehicle mode with the rest just being covered up by the trailer. This just might be the simplest Masterpiece int he entire line.

But I can't completely blame them. The Roddy model is what it is: completely untransformable without major revisions to it's design.

Trikeboy wrote:I am hoping this will be Hot Rod in vehicle mode that combines with the trailer. How about this for a gimmick? It has two faces, one young and one more mature. There is a slot for the Matrix of Leadership inside his chest with a switch. When you put the Matrix in his chest the face rotates from the young Hot Rod, to the mature Rodimus Prime. I would love that. Throw in a sound clip of Peter Cullen's "Arise, Rodimus Prime" and the toy would be totally worth the price.

If it did all that it would be ridiculously awesome, but realistically it won't do any of that. However if it did I would gladly eat my words.

Mach wrote:

kirbenvost wrote:Well, this doesn't show us much, it just looks like the animation model. And yeah, now that I think about it, I guess I would rather have Hot Rod than Rodimus Prime.

From the words of people who have seen the prototype, Hot Rod will become Rodimus Prime when combine with parts from the trailer... Ala Fans Project....

I really hope they're right.

If Roddy can become Hot Rod then it'll be the best Masterpiece since Prime.

Maybe both vehicle modes are part formers. Because the robot mode shown doesn't have and vehicle mode kibble like wheels on the legs

exciting stuff.. I think most of us hope for a hot rod that can transform into rodimus. obviously, these sketches tell us nothing, but they're still neat. who was talking about a prototype? tell us more!

I would´ve liike this form or look for him:
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs8/f/2005/2 ... _Robot.jpg

Can everyone read the post title, it says toy concept sketch. It's not a prototype, it's mearly initial concepts, they will make loads of these, before even thinkig about the actual engineering.
I don't see why people think the hot rod / rodimus combo is nto gonna happen, it's one of those ideas that is not only genius but is really practical for this figure, the fansproject add on proves this.
I'm just wondering what approach they will take. Either the G1 purist, or the alt or robot mode sacrafice.
I know one thing, I don't want the bulk of this mold to be a lame battle station!

Yeah, I was never a big fan of Rodimus Prime...The titanuim version 6" is a the best one because it incorporates the trailer into a robot mode...City Protector is a good idea because it will combine them...But G1 version is a big thumbs down,.....

maybe for the second face they will put his older face but with the black border around his eyes like in the
transformers headmasters cartoon

DTR69 wrote:Can everyone read the post title, it says toy concept sketch. It's not a prototype, it's mearly initial concepts, they will make loads of these, before even thinkig about the actual engineering.
I don't see why people think the hot rod / rodimus combo is nto gonna happen, it's one of those ideas that is not only genius but is really practical for this figure, the fansproject add on proves this.
I'm just wondering what approach they will take. Either the G1 purist, or the alt or robot mode sacrafice.
I know one thing, I don't want the bulk of this mold to be a lame battle station!

On the TakaraTomy site, in 2010 lineup, there are still two empty slots. One of these will be occupied by Predaking, the other just has "Masterpiece New" on it. Plus, we've had the clue in a hidden message "The name of the new Masterpiece is Rodimus". So yeah, a Masterpiece Rodimus Prime is very likely.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

DTR69 wrote:Can everyone read the post title, it says toy concept sketch. It's not a prototype, it's mearly initial concepts, they will make loads of these, before even thinkig about the actual engineering.
I don't see why people think the hot rod / rodimus combo is nto gonna happen, it's one of those ideas that is not only genius but is really practical for this figure, the fansproject add on proves this.
I'm just wondering what approach they will take. Either the G1 purist, or the alt or robot mode sacrafice.
I know one thing, I don't want the bulk of this mold to be a lame battle station!

On the TakaraTomy site, in 2010 lineup, there are still two empty slots. One of these will be occupied by Predaking, the other just has "Masterpiece New" on it. Plus, we've had the clue in a hidden message "The name of the new Masterpiece is Rodimus". So yeah, a Masterpiece Rodimus Prime is very likely.

You missunderstood what I ment. I was refering to the concept of having a Hot Rod MP which converted to A Rodimus MP rather than just a straight Forward Rodimus MP. The fact we are getting a MP Rodimus is a given now.

Corect me if I'm wrong but Didnt rodimus have bags under his eyes?

DTR69 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

DTR69 wrote:Can everyone read the post title, it says toy concept sketch. It's not a prototype, it's mearly initial concepts, they will make loads of these, before even thinkig about the actual engineering.
I don't see why people think the hot rod / rodimus combo is nto gonna happen, it's one of those ideas that is not only genius but is really practical for this figure, the fansproject add on proves this.
I'm just wondering what approach they will take. Either the G1 purist, or the alt or robot mode sacrafice.
I know one thing, I don't want the bulk of this mold to be a lame battle station!

On the TakaraTomy site, in 2010 lineup, there are still two empty slots. One of these will be occupied by Predaking, the other just has "Masterpiece New" on it. Plus, we've had the clue in a hidden message "The name of the new Masterpiece is Rodimus". So yeah, a Masterpiece Rodimus Prime is very likely.

You missunderstood what I ment. I was refering to the concept of having a Hot Rod MP which converted to A Rodimus MP rather than just a straight Forward Rodimus MP. The fact we are getting a MP Rodimus is a given now.

Corect me if I'm wrong but Didnt rodimus have bags under his eyes?

The head thing can be done in two ways: Like BW Waspinator's Robot/Mutant Head, or like Starscream, having two faces with a helmet covering up the one not in use. The Trailer is a different story though...

Sorry to say this, but we will most likely to get what we see in the sketch. Look at all other masterpieces, they all look like their G1 counterparts. Even the seekers originally. A combiner that has Hot Rod combines with the trailer to form Rodimus Prime will also need to have a bigger and different head like the Power Core combiners, not just a face change.

If this thing costs as much as MP Grimlock I might have to just wait for the Hasbro version for a fraction of the TakTom price. Still don't understand why he cost so much to begin with... As for the figure itself, love the MP line, but don't really have a strong feeling for this character either way. My excitement will largely depend on the engineering and design.

DTR69 wrote:The starscream situation was different. That was a fully working prototype, tey brought in a secomd designer, to help appeal to Macross fans. Why they did that knowing they were going to make numerous repaints, which TF fans wwould buy is beyond me. Thats why Starscream was released in green. It was all aimed for people outside of the TF fandom. I think they thought they could make an extra buck. Anyway we ended up with a more realistic plane mode, and a whole heap of people complaining about hip kibble.

Actually that's only partially correct. The "second designer" they brought in was master industrial designer Shoji Kawamori. He's the godfather of transforming mechs. He created Macross but was also one of the original designers of "Diaclone" and "Microman" before they were renamed Transformers and was the original designer/creator of Starscream, among others.

Mr. Kawamori has always maintained that since the Transformers were "ROBOTS IN DISGUISE" that the vehicle mode was more important. How would they disguise themselves if the vehicle still had a face visible underneath and arms and legs sticking out? Hence, sacrificing the humanoid mode for the more realistic vehicle mode, since a robot can look like anything.

agentk9 wrote:

DTR69 wrote:The starscream situation was different. That was a fully working prototype, tey brought in a secomd designer, to help appeal to Macross fans. Why they did that knowing they were going to make numerous repaints, which TF fans wwould buy is beyond me. Thats why Starscream was released in green. It was all aimed for people outside of the TF fandom. I think they thought they could make an extra buck. Anyway we ended up with a more realistic plane mode, and a whole heap of people complaining about hip kibble.

Actually that's only partially correct. The "second designer" they brought in was master industrial designer Shoji Kawamori. He's the godfather of transforming mechs. He created Macross but was also one of the original designers of "Diaclone" and "Microman" before they were renamed Transformers and was the original designer/creator of Starscream, among others.

Mr. Kawamori has always maintained that since the Transformers were "ROBOTS IN DISGUISE" that the vehicle mode was more important. How would they disguise themselves if the vehicle still had a face visible underneath and arms and legs sticking out? Hence, sacrificing the humanoid mode for the more realistic vehicle mode, since a robot can look like anything.

You have raised a good point there, one I have always wondered about. How realistic would the alt mode in actual life have to be. A jet would often be seen from a distance so as long as the outline was close, people would be none the wiser. Then there is also the issue, of where would all the robot parts go. If Bumblebee was a carbon copy of a real car, then his engine and lugage compartment would not be able to hide all the parts needed for a robot mode. How identical can you get before a robot mode not possible. I think it would be much more sendible for all the cars to have blacked out windows, and that the car doors not be able to open for pasengers as the whole inside was dedicated for robot mechanics. Even if transformers were real, I think that they would only be able to disguise there selves to an extent, they would not be able to be functioning cars in the sense humans could rive them. And I would expect to see some slits and grooves where panels would split apart. To transform into a car then have a displayable engine and a whole interiorfor humans to sit, just doesn't seem like there would be much lerft for robot workings.

Just for asthetics, I'd alwayd prefer a sacrafic ein alt mode so the robot can look good, after all it's the robots we all love. I think MP prime was done right, Starscream was the opposite end of sacraficing, and Megatron and Grimlock were hyped up versions of the original toy. WHat method tey use fr this MP is still yet to be seen.