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Counterpunch wrote:Credit where credit is due. The figure looks worlds better in proper light.

That being said, if they are branching out the movie design look into their Classics, it needs to stop now.

Faction symbols should have their proper colorings and these open hand designs have got to go. I don't mind the look of the open hands so much, but the functionality is pretty poor.

This.

I made the exception with Bludgeon because he's so unique, but I'm not going to dilute my Classics/Henkei collection with other G1-inspired movie figures. The boxes may not say ROTF any more, but the designs still do.

[quote="Requiem Prime"]Nice! I look forward for this guy

But is he Universe? His box is the same style as the new movie Bumblebee and the Ratchet they show is clearly the movie's voyager Ratchet. However, the TF writing, Autobot symbol, and his general aesthetic is clearly not.[/quote

Hasbro is moving toward uniting lines to economize in packaging. This allows characters that fit closer to the Classic/Universe lines even after the line has ended. That said, these new pictures cleared any doubts, including the gold-instead-of-yellow issue. Love the clear visor, the flipping flippers, and the alt mode w/carrier capabilities. Thank you Hasbro!

Blurrz wrote:

First-Aid wrote:Anyone else seeing a blue, purple, and silver repaint named Depth Charge?

I think me and you would make some pretty good beer buddies XD.

Although Depth Charge should really be reserved for the next Transformers Submarine...

I'll drink to that...but I only drink the hard stuff.

i hope crankstart is a scout class that seaspray captures and carries. it would be a nifty gimmick

heltskelt wrote:

Requiem Prime wrote:Nice! I look forward for this guy

But is he Universe? His box is the same style as the new movie Bumblebee and the Ratchet they show is clearly the movie's voyager Ratchet. However, the TF writing, Autobot symbol, and his general aesthetic is clearly not.

Hasbro is moving toward uniting lines to economize in packaging. This allows characters that fit closer to the Classic/Universe lines even after the line has ended. That said, these new pictures cleared any doubts, including the gold-instead-of-yellow issue. Love the clear visor, the flipping flippers, and the alt mode w/carrier capabilities. Thank you Hasbro!

I guess that's cool. I had my suspisicions with Bludgeon and Hoist that the movie toys were becoming more Classics/Universe collection-friendly. Not a bad thing overall.

DevastaTTor wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:Credit where credit is due. The figure looks worlds better in proper light.

That being said, if they are branching out the movie design look into their Classics, it needs to stop now.

Faction symbols should have their proper colorings and these open hand designs have got to go. I don't mind the look of the open hands so much, but the functionality is pretty poor.

This.

I made the exception with Bludgeon because he's so unique, but I'm not going to dilute my Classics/Henkei collection with other G1-inspired movie figures. The boxes may not say ROTF any more, but the designs still do.

Really? Because I didn't get a ROTF vibe at all from this the first time I looked at it. After a second look I only see movie-design influence in the angles incorporated in the lower legs. The remaining 90% of the figure seems completely non-movie to me.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for going back to a completely movie-free design like classics/universe 2.0, but I don't quite see this massive movie-design influence that everyone is talking about.

Anyway, I'm not a big fan of the upsized Powerglide, but Seaspray seems to do a much better job of it. And I like the fact that scouts and therefore, legends, can be transported by this guy. I currently have about half my Universe legends on G1 Metroplex in city mode and was surprised by how good it looks.

why do most things released nowadays have these rediculous see through parts and pieces? aside from the bluish clear pieces on the side, the mold looks good.

wraith

Flippers and goggles, that's awesome, I want it! I dunno why they put it in the new rotf packaging but I think he'd look better with the Universe bots.

I love him, except for the open hands. I want that trend to stop. Now.

Speaking of open hands, does anyone think that seeing more hand design like that of Cybertron/Galaxy Force OP/Convoy would be a good thing? It has decent articulation in that you can open/close the hands and it uses a peg on the gun and a port on the palm to further secure a grip for posing.

When I saw the images of Seaspray, I first thought we'd get something like the basic articulation found in Stratosphere's hands but if they're fixed position open hands...dang. That sucks. I'd rather have a traditional fist with a 5mm peg hole so at least it would be compatible with other weapons.

The Voyager class Sea Spray toy has been on top of the news since he was revealed at Toyfair UK. A video review has recently surfaced giving us an in-depth look onto the upcoming toy, and size comparison with Optimus Prime from the 2006 Classics series. To view the video, click here.

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are the minibots coming back with a vengance? ultra powerglide, (ultra) seaspray, ultra warpath, i hope **** so

Nekoman wrote:The Voyager class Sea Spray toy has been on top of the news since he was revealed at Toyfair UK. A video review has recently surfaced giving us an in-depth look onto the upcoming toy, and size comparison with Optimus Prime from the 2006 Classics series. To view the video, click here.

oh its a voyager cheers dude thought it was ultra

yeah me agaian. diddums to any one who thinks i should read thing properly before posting. but who is crank start? a new figure or old nemesis. this is a question.

shlee wrote:yeah me agaian. diddums to any one who thinks i should read thing properly before posting. but who is crank start? a new figure or old nemesis. this is a question.

No clue yet... An older figure whose name was Crankcase, was a decepticon triggercon, but I don't recall that he and Seaspray had a common past, possibly just a random pairing like in case of Rambohide-Bludgeon.

Convotron wrote:Scuba mask AND flippers on a robot? I'm sold. It's so goofy it works.

I saw the little flippers and just said "Awwwww!!!" pretty loudly in a public computer lab. But I feel better knowing somebody else is onboard with them.

Pretty damned sweet. Looks good for Classics/Universe, too. *Crosses fingers that he's in the line*

I'm relieved that he's only a Voyager and not an Ultra like first though .... I love the flippers though, that's so silly 80s-toonish its awesome. And a 'scuba mask' is a perfect extension of the original, who had just a head with optics and an ventilator as opposed to an actual face.
Bonus points for his turbines being able to fold back into a underwater propulsion pack... actually I think he did that in the cartoon once.

I'm also happy to see they're continuing the 'rivals' angle in profiles that they started with the latest movie figures. It adds a nice depth and background to the franchise again.

I'm sure there will be a G1 cartoon repaint, by Takara if not Hasbro themselves, but despite originally thinking about holding out, now I think he looks fine as he is. The more 'realistic' colors of white and blue work in this case.

'Crankstart' may not necessarily be an old model of car. It could just be a reference to a purpose, if he's a combat medic or engineer or such. We'll have to wait and see!

Sold, sold, and sold. And I mean sold.

Dear lord, this is awesome. And he will look even cooler with ROTF Scattershot on his back in boat mode. Anti-air boat FTW!

I'm not sold on him, but I'm not against it either. First thing I thought when I saw him was the colors are wrong (too me), the head doesn't look right at all, and the hands looked like claws. Mind you that was when we first saw pictures.

Now that I see him in a much more up close picture gallery, I feel almost the same. Head doesn't appeal to me, open hands kinda look like claws, guns gotta plug into hole in arm behind the hands, movie style legs, color pallet... all of these things make me think it's not Seaspray. That being said, I do like the figure and just because he doesn't look like Joe Transformer doesn't mean he isn't Joe Transformer (see 98% of ROTF). There are just things I would change based on my tastes.

I won't need to get the first one because he'll warm the shelf pretty hard for 8 months and I can wait until it goes on sale or I see the better re-deco. I mean sure we like it, but kids are going to look at it and not give it two thoughts then move right along to something else. We all loved Powerglide, Silverbold and Onslaught, but they are still warming shelves here in my neck of the woods so I don't see Seaspray being any different.

I'm guessing we'll get a few repaints out of this. Walmart exclusive G1 deco, Takara better G1 Deco, and Decepticon Shortround. You all know this will happen... don't act like it won't, because it will. The proof is in the pudding so to speak.

Now if only Yizhi can get his hands on that Bruticus Combiner... then my engine will turn over.

Lastly, did anyone else find that video painful to watch? Like, that figure looks like it might take one minute WCS, but that kid took FOREVER. Gah' my head still wants to go nova.

This guy looks like he came straight out of the old cybertron line. I pray they aren't mixing the two lines, ROTF and Universe. I'd buy a universe classic over ROTF any day..

amcgrath929 wrote:This guy looks like he came straight out of the old cybertron line. I pray they aren't mixing the two lines, ROTF and Universe. I'd buy a universe classic over ROTF any day..

In terms of design, we don't know if they're mixing the two together.
In terms of distribution and packaging, yes, they're mixing them together. The new packaging will cover a good portion of the toylines.

I'm going to put this guy in the maybe pile. Powerglide stayed that way for a long time too.