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shajaki wrote:any ever see the movie "life"? i wanna call this guy "cant get right". cause he fits somewhere between two scales.... who is this figure intended for?

imo it's TW scale just simply going off other TW figures being on the large side even before the MP craze took over which makes me think this is just another TW offering and also out of the two comparisons Heg & OMP he looks at home with Hegemon .

shajaki wrote:any ever see the movie "life"? i wanna call this guy "cant get right". cause he fits somewhere between two scales.... who is this figure intended for?

People who wants to pose Astrotrain choke slamming a barbie doll to hell.

william-james88 wrote:But the new Combiner Wars Megatron also doesnt scale with anything and people dont seem too pissed. I think he could be perfect to scale with this Astrotrain.

In part, because the Megatron is forty bucks, not $100.

Also, it is Megatron, and many people have separate displays for Megatron as he's been done in every scale imaginable (not to mention different alt modes, completely different designs etc.)

Most people don't have a separate display for Astrotrain.

william-james88 wrote:

shajaki wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

shajaki wrote:any ever see the movie "life"? i wanna call this guy "cant get right". cause he fits somewhere between two scales.... who is this figure intended for?

People who like stand alone figs with awesome engineering. That would be me. He will still scale well enough with MP-10 and Appolyon if you go by what he usually looks like compare to optimus on the show (he's maybe a tad shorter than what he should be).

yeah. but nailing the scale is crucial for a lot of collectors, and this is already kinda niche.

if theres a toon version, ill still get him. its just odd how this turned out.

But the new Combiner Wars Megatron also doesnt scale with anything and people dont seem too pissed. I think he could be perfect to scale with this Astrotrain.

Yea, but CW Megatron won't put you back what this figure does. Tolerance of off scales is inversely correlated to how much it will hurt my wallet.

Plus, Astrotrain doesn't quite scale with Megatron - based on the picks earlier showing Megatron at about MP Soundwave's height and Astrotrain a bit shorter than the MP Seekers, he'll probably be a good head shorter than Megatron.

megatronus wrote:Yea, but CW Megatron won't put you back what this figure does. Tolerance of off scales is inversely correlated to how much it will hurt my wallet.

Plus, Astrotrain doesn't quite scale with Megatron - based on the picks earlier showing Megatron at about MP Soundwave's height and Astrotrain a bit shorter than the MP Seekers, he'll probably be a good head shorter than Megatron.

What about with CW Optimus then?

Hey guys. Looking at this pic, it looks like he would scale pretty well with Generations voyager Soundwave



Edit: here's the pic

To be fair, TW Evilstar has his robot legs spread much more far apart than the other toys in these comparisons pics on page 5.

For those who actively display their TF toys. Know all to well, That TF robot toys lose anywhere from 1/2 inch to 1 inch the further the robot legs are spread out.

Since I plan to buy the TW Evilstar toy. I will get a tape measure and measure TW Evilstar from head to toe with the legs closer together in robot mode. Then I'll post my measurements in this thread.

william-james88 wrote:Hey guys. Looking at this pic, it looks like he would scale pretty well with Generations voyager Soundwave



Edit: here's the pic

I think this is a good size for Astrotrain. I think he scales well for anyone using Hegemon as their Megs, and he suits a Classics/Gen collection. I always felt in the cartoon he was too small for what he was and should be one of the big guys. Perhaps not Skyfire bigger than even say Blitzwing. Maybe Magnus height. I'm quite happy with his size for my collection, sitting at the back looking like a bad mofo behind the Voyagers. I don't have the cash now so I'll leave it a bit and hope that maybe they'll release a V2 in show accurate colours.

Rated X wrote:

shajaki wrote:any ever see the movie "life"? i wanna call this guy "cant get right". cause he fits somewhere between two scales.... who is this figure intended for?

People who wants to pose Astrotrain choke slamming a barbie doll to hell.

Her name is Katie Vick, be respectful.

I sure do miss the "Attitude Era" of WWF.

Think a easy solution, Is for 3rd parties to create more height boots. To make certain HasTak and 3rd party TF toys a bit taller. The boots can form a weapon for the alt mode.

If anyone here is on the fence about buying this TW Evilstar toy. Due to not knowing the exact robot height. I'm willing to buy this toy, Measure it and give the robot height in this thread. To better help some here make a final buy or not buy on this toy.

Here is photo proof of three MP seeker toys. Showing a false bigger height for a toy pushed to the front, while the others appear shorter pushed back in the pic.


Pushed to the front, Hedgemon falsely appears taller than he actually is.


Photo pic that displaying the same toy in different poses or angles. Can make one toy look a head taller or shorter.


Rodimus is taller than optimus in this pic


Optimus and Grimlock are taller than Rodimus in this pic.

^^ I hope you do realize that Rodimus had his hip joints extended in the 1st pic and not in the pic with Mp08

guarayakha wrote:^^ I hope you do realize that Rodimus had his hip joints extended in the 1st pic and not in the pic with Mp08

Yes, I'm aware. It was a example at how extended or un-extended hip joints, Wide legs poses, close together leg poses. Can reduce or increase a robot height by 1/2 a inch to 1 inch.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

guarayakha wrote:^^ I hope you do realize that Rodimus had his hip joints extended in the 1st pic and not in the pic with Mp08

Yes, I'm aware. It was a example at how extended or un-extended hip joints, Wide legs poses, close together leg poses. Can reduce or increase a robot height by 1/2 a inch to 1 inch.

Fair enough. Though it seems that taking those factors (A-stance perspective), it seems this guy stands at approximately the same height as the MP seekers?

Damn its the backpack from hell. Well I guess battle of the MP Astrotrains is basically cartoon vs. vintage toy accuracy. MP scale...meh

in stock @ BBTS for $114.99

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=TOW10009&mode=retail

ZenPrime wrote:in stock @ BBTS for $114.99

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=TOW10009&mode=retail

Thanks for posting this.

I just ordered one, It should arrive next week to me.

As a service to all the members here that are still on the fence about buying this. I'm going to be measuring this toy in all modes. also plan to do a whole bunch of comparisons pics with some of the TF toys i've got on display.

I don't have a site that I use to host pics and don't have any sort of youtube video page.
So if the Seibertron site has any sort of hosting gallery site that allows 3rd party TF toys on it. I'll consider posting the TW Evilstar comparisons pics there.

I'll try my best to play with the toy as soon as possible and take pics quicker than I usually do. Because I know a few members here need this info and pics to decide if they want to buy the toy or not.

Just went to the seibertron toy gallery section. Can't figure out how members can add toy galleries to the section. If anyone wants to post a quick tutorial on how to do so in a reply here or in a PM to me. I'd really appreciate it.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Just went to the seibertron toy gallery section. Can't figure out how members can add toy galleries to the section. If anyone wants to post a quick tutorial on how to do so in a reply here or in a PM to me. I'd really appreciate it.

You can't. Only Ryan can do that as he takes all the pics (has a set standard)

Burn wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Just went to the seibertron toy gallery section. Can't figure out how members can add toy galleries to the section. If anyone wants to post a quick tutorial on how to do so in a reply here or in a PM to me. I'd really appreciate it.

You can't. Only Ryan can do that as he takes all the pics (has a set standard)

Thanks,

Maybe i'll explore other options.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Burn wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Just went to the seibertron toy gallery section. Can't figure out how members can add toy galleries to the section. If anyone wants to post a quick tutorial on how to do so in a reply here or in a PM to me. I'd really appreciate it.

You can't. Only Ryan can do that as he takes all the pics (has a set standard)

Thanks,

Maybe i'll explore other options.

Why not just post them in this thread? or make a thread in the collections forum .

Autobot Genocide wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Burn wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Just went to the seibertron toy gallery section. Can't figure out how members can add toy galleries to the section. If anyone wants to post a quick tutorial on how to do so in a reply here or in a PM to me. I'd really appreciate it.

You can't. Only Ryan can do that as he takes all the pics (has a set standard)

Thanks,

Maybe i'll explore other options.

Why not just post them in this thread? or make a thread in the collections forum .

I'm getting this bad boy too once Appolyon comes out (I asked that they be shipped to me together) and what I was gonna do is just take some pics, upload to photobucket and then show them all here. You dont want to do that?

william-james88 wrote:

Autobot Genocide wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Burn wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Just went to the seibertron toy gallery section. Can't figure out how members can add toy galleries to the section. If anyone wants to post a quick tutorial on how to do so in a reply here or in a PM to me. I'd really appreciate it.

You can't. Only Ryan can do that as he takes all the pics (has a set standard)

Thanks,

Maybe i'll explore other options.

Why not just post them in this thread? or make a thread in the collections forum .

I'm getting this bad boy too once Appolyon comes out (I asked that they be shipped to me together) and what I was gonna do is just take some pics, upload to photobucket and then show them all here. You dont want to do that?

Think I might have a photobucket account or I can create one. Then I'll copy and paste the pics here.

TFW Arctorro wrote:

Think this is the most fair and accurate comparison pic I've seen of TW Evilstar so far.

TFW Arctorro wrote:

It appears the chest wing some hate, can be hidden away in the chest.

And here is what I think is the first video review for TW Evilstar.
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XODkwODI5NTc2.html

Just saw the video, Sadly no size comparisons.

Like the visor and my Evilstar will wear it in robot mode.

I don't frequent the 3P forum on this site anymore, but thought I should share these here as well