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It's obviously a Cyberjet.
Oh wait...

it DOES kinda scream onslaught.

particularly around the windowscreens.

but after seeing the nascars im going to say its motormaster and all that stuff about wreckers is just bayllocks.

besides you just KNOW bay will want to do a prime on motormaster chicken race.

might even explain why it looks so bad now.

gah! KUP!

My gut feeling is that this is a human tanker connected to the NASCAR weapon cars.

That said this would make an awesome Scourge. If this isn't a TF in the movie, use if for a Scourge update.

Not super clean or modern enough to be a Bayformer.

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I'm really getting a Wreck-gar vibe from this, unfortunately.

Might be a cool toy but they'll probably make it annoyingly small like TF1's Bonecrusher.

As much as I like the first film and certain aspects of ROTF, the robot designs like Ironhide, the Twins, Scalpel and now that Einstein bot are really souring me on the films. That and of course, the annoying attempts at humour. Could be redeemed though if some Con steps on Leo.

You know, I could see that Einstein head on this truck really being Wreck-gar, unfortunately.

I hope its ULTRA MAGNUS!

Some of you people have pretty wishful thinking. Also, I don't see how the Nascar's can be Decepticon's since there is a video that shows them fighting WITH the NEST team.

This pic shows how they've reused the Mixmaster vehicle, or elements of, from ROTF.

I'm definitely calling on this one, the MACK Bulldog has been covered over, if you look at it closer, you can see the points on 'its' head, same as Mixmasters ornament in ROTF

That truck would definitely scare kids away at least lol

Editor wrote:My gut feeling is that this is a human tanker connected to the NASCAR weapon cars.

I'm thinkin' the same thing. Probably not even a TF, it's more human lameness.

That is soooo Grimlock.

just to piont out everyone thought wreackers where decepticons look how that turned all we know it could be autobot but it looks more deceticon than autobot have to waite and see what side it is on at all combiner or 2 would like to see again

I like the idea of the nets looking like battledress. Very Predator. Another look on a bot (the Einstein) struck me as predator influenced a few weeks ago.

The fork-things on the front just *scream* feet but the covered up symbol also whispers trap.

Looking in detail:This thing didn't come from in the city.Generic city impound lots wouldn't house ex military vehicles, provided this is ex mil and not owner painted. There's rope all over the cab door on standby for human use, and the guts of the back cab compartment have been removed,showing access by humans via more nets...There is a depot the Autobots drive into during the footage where we first learnt of the fire truck.Could it have been rusting there and got recomissioned for combat by Simmons or someone? The desperate plan B jaloppy?

Can any experts identify an explosive mechanism looking thing anywhere on this monster? It's the only way I can concieve of it being used as a weapon- mobile bomb, maybe with custom explosive cocktail.If we spot one,it's surely a Human faction bot-hunter.

Maybe a con henchman of Shockwave planet drops into a scrapyard, or else it's a Jetfire era sleeper (maybe even wreck-Gar himself) revitalized by some additional allspark leftover, or secret military rewired Sun Harvester component.
(BTW- riddle me this:Which nation 'controls' the tomb of the primes and the SunHarvester in TF3?? I daresay we're better off not reminding ppl they existed, like certain characters).

Possibility Initiative or military members learnt to create psuedo transformers? Nah, way to early in the human involvement calendar...at least logically speaking...

...but I DO like the idea of the nets behaving like tribal pattern battledress.

I'm going to say it's a 'Con, looks too evil to be an Autobot or a prop

its called W A S
wait and see

Vicalliose wrote:Not super clean or modern enough to be a Bayformer.

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Astronopolis wrote:gah! KUP!

griftimus prime wrote:amnount of trash on it i would say wreck gar

These three guesses are the most logical conclusions. Though logic could also root out the best answer from these three.

Firstly: I don't think this much modification or detail would be put into a background prop. Though that is a good guess, it looks more like something that's going to have a bit more screen-time than a flash in the background.

Second: Kup would make more sense as the vehicle looks like it's beaten to hell while still kicking some robo-ass. However, the "Old man who tells stories" bit has already been done in the second movie, and Bay doesn't really seem the type to do the same jokes over again.

Third: I would think that this guess would proove to be correct. He was used recently, he is rather junky looking, and it would seem like the sort of character who's alien enough for Bay to want to humanize the most. Because remember: while these robots are aliens from another planet and should look it in their robot forms, they should still have accents and personalities that are two dimentional steriotypes of every ethnic group on Earth, I just wonder what sort of accent he'll end up giving this guy.

Of course, this is all speculation and he could end up being Ratbat.

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:

Vicalliose wrote:Not super clean or modern enough to be a Bayformer.

BACKGROUND PROP

Astronopolis wrote:gah! KUP!

griftimus prime wrote:amnount of trash on it i would say wreck gar

These three guesses are the most logical conclusions. Though logic could also root out the best answer from these three.

Firstly: I don't think this much modification or detail would be put into a background prop. Though that is a good guess, it looks more like something that's going to have a bit more screen-time than a flash in the background.

Second: Kup would make more sense as the vehicle looks like it's beaten to hell while still kicking some robo-ass. However, the "Old man who tells stories" bit has already been done in the second movie, and Bay doesn't really seem the type to do the same jokes over again.

Third: I would think that this guess would proove to be correct. He was used recently, he is rather junky looking, and it would seem like the sort of character who's alien enough for Bay to want to humanize the most. Because remember: while these robots are aliens from another planet and should look it in their robot forms, they should still have accents and personalities that are two dimentional steriotypes of every ethnic group on Earth, I just wonder what sort of accent he'll end up giving this guy.

Of course, this is all speculation and he could end up being Ratbat.

Of course! Why didn't I see it before! It's so obiously Astrotrain!

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It's Shockwave's alt
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Nah...that's just prophet Bay's vision for Optimus Primes new heroic(Burnt to a crisp) look.

All kidding aside..I get this feeling that it will be MotorMaster + Nascar's a.k.a (Wreckers)a.k.a(really the Stunticon's in disguise) framing the autobot's for the crimes against humanity.

whoever that bot/con is let's hope he gets to go out in a blaze of glory.

Editor wrote:[sarcasm]

It's Shockwave's alt
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I'll prolly get flamed to hell and back for saying this, but I think that would be a kick ass alt mode for Shockwave. Not very near any of Shockwave's previous alt modes, but a definitely kick ass mode to have...

That being said, it could very possibly be Ultra Magnus...

So if it's a Bot, I hope it's Ultra Magnus, if it's a Con, then I hope it's Shockwave...

Let the flaming begin...

If this isn't a Cybertronian in the movie you can be sure we will get a toy of it. The Tow Truck that Mikaela drives was Hoist in the Toyline after all.

I was going to post something but I thought it best to hold my tongue.

Damn that hurts...

Stryfe Convoy wrote:

Editor wrote:[sarcasm]

It's Shockwave's alt
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I'll prolly get flamed to hell and back for saying this, but I think that would be a kick ass alt mode for Shockwave. Not very near any of Shockwave's previous alt modes, but a definitely kick ass mode to have...

That being said, it could very possibly be Ultra Magnus...

So if it's a Bot, I hope it's Ultra Magnus, if it's a Con, then I hope it's Shockwave...

Let the flaming begin...

*start /mass-sarcasm*
OMFUG! You dare claim to praise that rusted monstrosity as the alt mode for the glorious Shockwave?!?!?!? ...(what else would the flamers say?)... (oh yeah, here's another) U R A L00Sr N00b; $h0cKW@v3 iz Roxx0rz! (umm, one more?) Shockwave should only ever, no matter what others think, be a cannon. If Michael Bay doesn't make him a cannon then he's a arsehead for not conforming to the collective desires of every G1 fan out there. How dare he not design yet another of the Great Ones in our imaginative image.
*end /mass-sarcasm*

Did you drink a Slurpee too fast and suffer brain freeze while typing that post?? Don't you know the die-hard Shocky fans are gonna hunt you down, pull out their Internet-issued flamer-post-throwers, and hose you down with hater-napalm? I truly feel pity on you. If they hammer down on you too hard, I will write your obit. It would be my honor.

DeathBlast wrote:Nah...that's just prophet Bay's vision for Optimus Primes new heroic(Burnt to a crisp) look.

DOn't give Hasbro any repaint ideas! It's bad enough we have that monstrosity that's out now with the hooks. Where's Peter Pan when you need him?

DeathBlast wrote:All kidding aside..I get this feeling that it will be MotorMaster + Nascar's a.k.a (Wreckers)a.k.a(really the Stunticon's in disguise) framing the autobot's for the crimes against humanity.

Except for the videos and pictures of the Nascarbots fighting alongside the NEST peeps and Autobots from the Chicago shoot and all evidence thus presented to the contrary, that MIGHT make sense. If you throw out all the evidence we've seen, then you're probably right.

DeathBlast wrote:whoever that bot/con is let's hope he gets to go out in a blaze of glory.

Are you kidding? That tanker has FLAMMIBLE written on it. In Bay-speak that pretty much means "this container is packed to the brim with every high explosive and incendiary device known to man and alien and will go BOOM at the drop of a hat...BOOM is teh secks!" Blaze of glory is an understatement. I just hope Bay leaves some of Michigan Avenue intact after he blows it up. It's kinda a nice road.

He can blow up Wrigley Field though...no one would notice the Cubs were missing...

BTW, "hater-napalm" is my new favorite phrase.