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I just love how people are still griping about Optimus Primes Flames. "Oh no Michael bay destroyed my childhood! he put flames on Optimus and he's not a flat nose! Oh no!"

People get over it. Number one: Flat nosed semi's are "obsolete" Number two: Not one person complained about G2 Laser Optimus Prime. Not only was he a LONG NOSE semi his Colors while not red and blue still had the same basic pattern Bayverse Prime has (except the flames)

the other thing that bugs me...if so many people "hate" Michael bay for what he's doing with Transformers why do you people still support him? "Im not going to see that movie" but you do anyway and complain more? "I hate those new designs!" but yet you still collect the toys....Wow....

Actually, we still have flat-nose trucks over in the UK. Not sure if they're really the same thing as what Optimus was, though.

The most recent group shot of all of the vehicles and the ambulance in the background is most intriguing. Although I hate to say this, but the ambulance is just that. An ambulance. It will not be playing a part within the movie as it is not Ratchet.

As you can clearly see, it is a plane jane ambulance with no special characteristics at all. This ambulance is part of the on site safety and rescue crew for the stunt drivers in such a case as an accident occurs. All vehicles have a specific area in which they must park so that they will be out of frame for when scenes are shot.

As you can see within the picture, the camera vehicle is also parked amongst the other vehicles and known autobots. The only vehicle missing in the picture is Hound, so they must have him elsewhere in order to do a filming sequence. These vehicles are in hiding from the camera as you can see by the higher ground that is behind them. Filming will occur down the road or on the other side of that rise in ground.

I have gone to college for graphics and design among film makers, so I know quite a few tricks from just looking at pictures about movies.

spartanH85 wrote:the other thing that bugs me...if so many people "hate" Michael bay for what he's doing with Transformers why do you people still support him? "Im not going to see that movie" but you do anyway and complain more? "I hate those new designs!" but yet you still collect the toys....Wow....

You'd be surprised by how many folks there are who haven't seen the movies.

FurStreak wrote:The most recent group shot of all of the vehicles and the ambulance in the background is most intriguing. Although I hate to say this, but the ambulance is just that. An ambulance. It will not be playing a part within the movie as it is not Ratchet.

As you can clearly see, it is a plane jane ambulance with no special characteristics at all. This ambulance is part of the on site safety and rescue crew for the stunt drivers in such a case as an accident occurs. All vehicles have a specific area in which they must park so that they will be out of frame for when scenes are shot.

As you can see within the picture, the camera vehicle is also parked amongst the other vehicles and known autobots. The only vehicle missing in the picture is Hound, so they must have him elsewhere in order to do a filming sequence. These vehicles are in hiding from the camera as you can see by the higher ground that is behind them. Filming will occur down the road or on the other side of that rise in ground.

I have gone to college for graphics and design among film makers, so I know quite a few tricks from just looking at pictures about movies.

Ok, on site medical unit makes sense and is completely logical, BUT I think you are forgetting something...

First, that ambulance was seen while they were filming a convoy scene with all the bots, and now since he is sitting there with his buddies, I cannot disagree with you more on the med unit thing. I am sure they DO have medical units out there, but not that ride inline with the Transformers as they go down the road

Second, you say that the ambulance has no distinctive markings or characteristics markings, etc... 1) They are Robots in Disguise and 2) there hasn't been a pic of the ambulance that's close enough of clear enough to make that specific of statement. The ONLY distinctive marking he would have is an Autobot symbol.

Oh, and thanks for all the filmmaking tips and info you gave, but REALLY dude, does that have any bearing on what we are talking about?? As always, we can speculate all day, but we REALLY won't know till we see the toys and/or movie...

Delta Magnus wrote:Dang....Optimus looks pimpin' in that shot.

I agree.

I'm loving how the Autobots look together.

Very excited to see what is still left in store.

Sabrblade wrote:

spartanH85 wrote:the other thing that bugs me...if so many people "hate" Michael bay for what he's doing with Transformers why do you people still support him? "Im not going to see that movie" but you do anyway and complain more? "I hate those new designs!" but yet you still collect the toys....Wow....

You'd be surprised by how many folks there are who haven't seen the movies.

Trust me Sabr, the plot hole discussion threads prove that at least 70% of the people who hate the films haven't seen them.

Many thanks to RE515TANT, who dropped by with some great images and a short video clip of the Rally Fighter vehicle from the "Transformes 4" filming in Texas. These images give us our best look to date at the vehicle, which has yet to revealed as a Transformer or human vehicle. Enjoy the embedded video and images below.

RE515TANT wrote:I spotted this truck in the Austin area carrying cars for the Transformers 4 movie that is currently filming. This is confirmation that a Rally Fighter will be part of the movie when it releases. Notice that the semi-cab has "Paramount Pictures" written on it.

Special thanks to MacDogg for driving while I filmed.

Somebody's bound to like it but I think it's ugly as hell. It's a freakin sports car with monster truck wheels and a paint job that looks like black primer. Larry the Cable Guy would love it.

is that a tiburon?

Rated X wrote:Somebody's bound to like it but I think it's ugly as hell. It's a freakin sports car with monster truck wheels and a paint job that looks like black primer. Larry the Cable Guy would love it.

Hehe, yeah, that would be me .

I really dig this thing and I'm betting it's one of the Dreds in a new form due in part to the colors as well as the large Cadillac behind it with matching rims.

I like gunmetal as a color on badass cars (I'm also a big fan of the Batmobile ).

Them rims/tires give the vehicle a Decepticon feeling. Maybe shall I say Knockout, just guessing.

Every time I see this I think Lockdown. I really hope it's him. The vehicle looks very similar to his.

As long as he doesn't die, it better be Ratchet. And Hound isn't there because he's already been killed off. ..... I seriously hope not.

The rally fighter is fitting for one of the dreds.

I hope the Decepticons have good color schemes this time around.

There was too much grey and black in the previous films.

Let's see some purple Decepticon insignia!

I'm by no means bashing those who actually have not saw the movies. I give them props for actually standing by their words. Its the ones who complain but still go see the movies and complain even more that bugs me. As for the Flat nose still being used in the UK I was completely unaware of that. That's awesome!

spartanH85 wrote:I'm by no means bashing those who actually have not saw the movies. I give them props for actually standing by their words. Its the ones who complain but still go see the movies and complain even more that bugs me. As for the Flat nose still being used in the UK I was completely unaware of that. That's awesome!

I'd actually argue the opposite. I don't think it's fair to judge the movies unless you've actually seen them and it's possible that those who do continue to go see them in theatres (me not being one of them ever since RotF, although I did rent DotM) or see them afterwards on video etc. are simply giving the sequels the benefit of the doubt to see if things have improved. DotM for example, while far from perfect, was far superior to RotF.

xyl360 wrote:DotM for example, while far from perfect, was far superior to RotF.

That's not a high bar. Drying paint is better than ROTF. At least the drying paint won't shove wrecking ball testicles in your face.

I will concede that DOTM was decent, however.

@ xyl360 I can see where you're coming from there. I've never thought about that way. Yeah DOTM was a tremendous improvement over ROTF and I do feel bad for the folks that lost faith during ROTF or even before. I can understand watching to see if things improved. I admit I do have one thing myself to complain about. Why the hell is Hound NOT Bulkhead??? Im happy to see a live action version of Hound but That vehicle mode SCREAMS Bulkhead! Ratchet (if indeed this pic does prove to be such) This is a big improvement from the H2 Mod.

Rated X wrote:Somebody's bound to like it but I think it's ugly as hell. It's a freakin sports car with monster truck wheels and a paint job that looks like black primer. Larry the Cable Guy would love it.

"Sports car with monster truck wheels," REALLY???

You would think such a "Die Hard" Transformer fan would be at least a LITTLE into cars and trucks to keep up with our favorite bots

What you are looking at is a Porsche Cayenne...Which is Porsche's Crossover/SUV. SOOOOO what you are looking at is an SUV with Monster Truck tires NOT a sports car.

Personally it looks badass...a badass TRUCK with all-terrain tires.

zatara1701 wrote:

Rated X wrote:Somebody's bound to like it but I think it's ugly as hell. It's a freakin sports car with monster truck wheels and a paint job that looks like black primer. Larry the Cable Guy would love it.

"Sports car with monster truck wheels," REALLY???

You would think such a "Die Hard" Transformer fan would be at least a LITTLE into cars and trucks to keep up with our favorite bots

What you are looking at is a Porsche Cayenne...Which is Porsche's Crossover/SUV. SOOOOO what you are looking at is an SUV with Monster Truck tires NOT a sports car.

Personally it looks badass...a badass TRUCK with all-terrain tires.

Actually... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_Cayenne

http://localmotors.com/rallyfighter/

Not a Cayenne.

I didn't look in too much detail, but it looks to be a purpose-built off-road/rally vehicle. I don't see anything there that looks like it was taken from a Cayenne.

Also, monster truck tires are bigger. Those are just large offroad beadlock wheels, similar to what short course trucks use.

kirbenvost wrote:

zatara1701 wrote:

Rated X wrote:Somebody's bound to like it but I think it's ugly as hell. It's a freakin sports car with monster truck wheels and a paint job that looks like black primer. Larry the Cable Guy would love it.

"Sports car with monster truck wheels," REALLY???

You would think such a "Die Hard" Transformer fan would be at least a LITTLE into cars and trucks to keep up with our favorite bots

What you are looking at is a Porsche Cayenne...Which is Porsche's Crossover/SUV. SOOOOO what you are looking at is an SUV with Monster Truck tires NOT a sports car.

Personally it looks badass...a badass TRUCK with all-terrain tires.

Actually... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_Cayenne

http://localmotors.com/rallyfighter/

Not a Cayenne.

I didn't look in too much detail, but it looks to be a purpose-built off-road/rally vehicle. I don't see anything there that looks like it was taken from a Cayenne.

Also, monster truck tires are bigger. Those are just large offroad beadlock wheels, similar to what short course trucks use.

Well it certainly looks like someone ripped of the iconic looks of a Porsche for this "Rally Fighter." Never heard of these things till I saw that website... I stand corrected

Still looks like that company ripped off Porsche's design cues

As far as WHO it is... I will go with a Con. Which Con?? I refuse to say anything of that sort after the whole Brawl vs. Devestator thing from part 1.

zatara1701 wrote:

Rated X wrote:Somebody's bound to like it but I think it's ugly as hell. It's a freakin sports car with monster truck wheels and a paint job that looks like black primer. Larry the Cable Guy would love it.

"Sports car with monster truck wheels," REALLY???

You would think such a "Die Hard" Transformer fan would be at least a LITTLE into cars and trucks to keep up with our favorite bots

What you are looking at is a Porsche Cayenne...Which is Porsche's Crossover/SUV. SOOOOO what you are looking at is an SUV with Monster Truck tires NOT a sports car.

Personally it looks badass...a badass TRUCK with all-terrain tires.

It's not a Porsche nor is it based on any other production vehicle. It's a custom purpose built machine. It does how ever use various parts from other vehicles (engine a Chevy LS3 used in the camaro/corvette, cooling system from a dodge challenger, etc. ( nothing borrowed from Porsche however). Body panels are completely custom.

I'm really liking this. Looks awesome and I hope it's a bot and not a human.vehicle so we get a toy out of it.

5150 Cruiser wrote:

zatara1701 wrote:

Rated X wrote:Somebody's bound to like it but I think it's ugly as hell. It's a freakin sports car with monster truck wheels and a paint job that looks like black primer. Larry the Cable Guy would love it.

"Sports car with monster truck wheels," REALLY???

You would think such a "Die Hard" Transformer fan would be at least a LITTLE into cars and trucks to keep up with our favorite bots

What you are looking at is a Porsche Cayenne...Which is Porsche's Crossover/SUV. SOOOOO what you are looking at is an SUV with Monster Truck tires NOT a sports car.

Personally it looks badass...a badass TRUCK with all-terrain tires.

It's not a Porsche nor is it based on any other production vehicle. It's a custom purpose built machine. It does how ever use various parts from other vehicles (engine a Chevy LS3 used in the camaro/corvette, cooling system from a dodge challenger, etc. ( nothing borrowed from Porsche however). Body panels are completely custom.

I'm really liking this. Looks awesome and I hope it's a bot and not a human.vehicle so we get a toy out of it.

Look on the Brightside...some of the BEST movie toys were "human vehicles" that became bots for toys but were never bots in the movies...

My only regret is we NEVER got our Mt. Dew machine toy...Sure, I got a toaster, but come on!!! Of course the vacuum was the best looking out the the AppliaCons...yep, that's right, I coined a phrase!! Still pisses me off that Bee got yelled at for saving Sam's bitchy ass that was running away from them

Anyways... my point, human or actual bot, we could still see a toy, AND I think the human vehicle toys came out BETTER because they were not limited by the movie or CGI models. Just saying...

Rated X wrote:It's a freakin sports car with monster truck wheels and a paint job that looks like black primer.

So... in other words... it's a ghetto car?