william-james88 wrote:Deadput wrote:Sabrblade wrote:You jest, but Ben Yee described his robot mode as resembling a cross between Cybertron Scourge and Prime Predaking, but also with smokestacks that may or may not suggest a truck altmode.ZeroWolf wrote:Surprised no one has pointed out that if there's an scourge in this, compete with Predacons, maybe they're adapting a little of RiD 2001 (this is a joke)
I like the idea of this Scourge having a beastial type robot mode but doesn't transform into a beast mode but instead turns into a black truck like Rid Scourge
That was the whole shtick of the RID 2015 Decepticons, did you dig that too?
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
LinaNui wrote:I really hate how I keep hearing that they are going to show us why Prime is the way he is, in a movie in 1994. Prime is millions of years old and has been fighting the war for a long time. No way he is going to be changing so much right now. I wish they would just stop trying to connect these new movies to the first 5. Because they keep doing this they are ruining there new movies and the old ones.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
ScottyP wrote:We just have to accept that the movie continuity is broken and no one working on these cares to fix it.
Rodimus Prime wrote:Definitely should have gotten a better director.
Frankly, you can't fit the Bayverse into the Bayverse. The Cybertronians found Earth because of the Allspark, but also the Decepticons were going to rendezvous here with Sentinel Prime, and also they had been here for millennia building Solar Harvesters into pyramids and whatnot, except that the Autobots arrived in 2007, but also have been here for centuries and fought in World War II.
Like, what the ****.
Deadput wrote:Otherwise the "young" characters such as Bumblebee wouldn't need any reason to go through their arcs, everybody would be an Alpha Trion or Kup, etc, nor would they act much like humans since living for millions of years would result in a living being so unlike any currently living human.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Deadput wrote:Otherwise the "young" characters such as Bumblebee wouldn't need any reason to go through their arcs, everybody would be an Alpha Trion or Kup, etc, nor would they act much like humans since living for millions of years would result in a living being so unlike any currently living human.
100% this. This is where the humanising thing falls flat. Because anything living for millions of years wouldn't act like us. Also they've never really explored the time scale beyond signifying it as a big number. If the Civil War raged for millions of years and Alpha Trion, Kup etc were already "old", how old are they? What is a natural Cybertronian lifespan? What does the flow of time mean to them?
Big existential questions like this of course, don't bring in the box office.
So "War" (simple concept) happened a really, really long time ago but the alien robots that have waged it have no cultural identity of their own. So they decide to mimic the behaviours of a species that is very much beneath them on a physical, evolutionary and mental level. Like people befriending ants.
Also, even though the war has been waged by both sides equally, the Autobots aren't equally as aggressive, capable and ruthless as the Decepticons. Because, that is how the canonical millennia long stalemate would work in a Civil War.
AKA guffaws, explosions and pew, pews.
I'm making my judgment on both what I've read so far about this new movie and the director's past work. Both are underwhelming. His only decent job was Creed II and that was because he had Ryan Coogler and Sylvester Stallone holding his hand. And from what I have seen so far about this new movie, regardless of where it comes from, is very discouraging. Of course, this all just a matter of opinion, if this appeals to you, that's your choice. For me, this will end up as something to pass time on a rainy day, just like Bumblebee was. And that movie was disappointing as well. It's the only TF movie I saw only once. The TF action and story was fine, but there were way too many humans and their interactions. And this new film looks the same, with 90s hip-hop garbage thrown all over it. And my guess is the Beasts will be in it for a fraction of the story, used as a plot device to trick more people into seeing it. Like you said, they don't want to alienate anyone. So they make it mediocre for everyone.william-james88 wrote:They just don't want to alienate anyone, but in the end the film will be it's own thing (as Bumblebee was). This director actually has a vision and is making the project personal, that's enough for me to be interested. I think we should reserve a little bit of judgment until we see more of the film.
WiseMan wrote:1994, huh? So I wonder how long it took for Optimus to download the entire English language from the "Worldwide Web" (as he mentions in the first movie) with a 56K modem?
ZeroWolf wrote:Hot Rod didn't need to do that in The Last Knight
Well, he tried a little with Bumblebee, then they changed the movie's intro late in production (or so it's been said) and it made that entire prequel impossible from the moment the movie came outMunkky wrote:ScottyP wrote:We just have to accept that the movie continuity is broken and no one working on these cares to fix it.
Just have John Barber write a couple of prequel comic books, I'm sure he can work something out.
ZeroWolf wrote:WiseMan wrote:1994, huh? So I wonder how long it took for Optimus to download the entire English language from the "Worldwide Web" (as he mentions in the first movie) with a 56K modem?
Hot Rod didn't need to do that in The Last Knight
Silverwing wrote:Also, I feel compelled to give the obligatory:
One for each year of the Movieverse's decade strong tenure. Here's to a few more explosive years!
TulioDude wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:WiseMan wrote:1994, huh? So I wonder how long it took for Optimus to download the entire English language from the "Worldwide Web" (as he mentions in the first movie) with a 56K modem?
Hot Rod didn't need to do that in The Last Knight
Of course not,he is french!
ScottyP wrote:Oh no, not this again. Anything but this again. I can't take another year of producer and director double talk about reboots and spinoffs and what the hell ever.
We just have to accept that the movie continuity is broken and no one working on these cares to fix it.
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