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News Credits: 54 · Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:52 am

Even if I don't end up thinking it's a "good film" I'm just glad we are getting another film at all, at the very least I expect the action to be decent so it could be worth watching in the theater.

News Credits: 20 · Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:10 am

This movie seems like it has a lot of pretty good ideas behind it. I just worry that it will end up like Age of Extinction, where the movie tries to do so much that nothing really works well or gets properly developed.

The thing I'd be most excited for is Optimus getting character development, but I'm going to need to see that before I really believe it. Bumblebee couldn't even get much character development in his own movie, so I'm not expecting much from Optimus in this one.

News Credits: 4877 · Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:17 am

While many fans were hoping that Garry Chalk would reprise his role as Optimus Primal in the upcoming live action film, as was the case original for Peter Cullen in the 2007 movie, it seems no amount of petitions will change Paramount's mind. Ron Perlman has been chosen as the voice of Optimus Primal. This is a return for him since he previously voiced Primal in the Power of the Primes series. This info comes to us from Collider.

If you want to see exactly how that would sound, so to the 5:30 mark of this clip.

News Credits: 462 · Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:21 am

I can hear Garry Chalk grumbling in frustration.

News Credits: 12 · Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:59 am

I love Ron Perlman

News Credits: 11 · Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:15 am

God, I hope he sounds more excited to be there this time around. I love Ron Perlman, but you can tell when he's just doing a role for paycheck.

News Credits: 2 · Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:23 am

Ron Pearlman is great in so many things, but not this. I hated his Optimus Primal. It was so lackluster and boring.

Betting Paramount will not use the line "Well isn't that just prime."

News Credits: 4 · Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:36 am

Welp, I already have the feeling that I will be going into the theaters with as much "enthusiasm" as I did with The Last Knight for this one.

Here's hoping I don't feel like I was rejected for a role for MST3K after watching this one.

News Credits: 462 · Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:41 am

They didn't get Garry Chalk because they never even reached out to him.

Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:50 am

I'm a huge Perlman fan, and was really disappointed with how flat his Primal was in PotP, but I think we can blame that on the voice direction (that show managed to make Mark Hamill sound bored). As bad as the live-actions movies can be, we at least usually get some energy from the VAs when they're given lines (not counting the bland platitudes Optimus gets stuck with when he's not snarling in rage). A whole new creative team is giving me some optimism, I loved Bumblebee, and apparently they want this to be more BB than Bay, so fingers crossed.

News Credits: 56 · Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:54 am

I'm torn here. Perlman is a fun actor to listen to. He was bad in PotP, because that was a terrible show, as was the voice directing, and sound mixing, among other things. Chalk will always be Optimus Primal to me, and I love seeing him in film roles such as Godzilla (2014), and Sonic (2020). However, I was at Botcon 2004 in Pasadena when rumblings of the first film were going around. Cullen knew nothing about it, but I remember the thunderous applause when a fan said if they don't get him to voice Optimus Prime, there would be *riots* (figuratively I'm sure...)

...oh boy, that has not aged well....

Anyway... Paramount didn't get Welker to do Megatron, and despite some fans disappointment, Hugo Weaving did well I thought (even if he himself thought it was stupid and bounced after his 3 picture deal was done). And well...they did get Welker eventually...

As much of an Original Series fan as I am, I see both sides of this, I really want to see Garry Chalk get a good solid role in a larger motion picture, but I know why Paramount made the choice they did. Will this be met with the same anger and disappointmentas if Cullen had been passed up? For some people yes absolutely, for some, maybe not. I have the greatest of respect for the original BW cast. They not only did great work, they are great people as well. I wish them all continued success in the industry, even if it doesn't happen to be in this specific film.

Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:58 am

Sabrblade wrote:They didn't get Garry Chalk because they never even reached out to him.

Oh, that's a real bummer. I love Perlman, but it's definitely soured if Chalk wasn't even given the chance. I know schedules conflict and such, and I can't really imagine it was a budget or union thing like the Netflix series. I guess they just wanted the star power...

News Credits: 42 · Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:13 pm

Rodimus Knight wrote:Ron Pearlman is great in so many things, but not this. I hated his Optimus Primal. It was so lackluster and boring.

Betting Paramount will not use the line "Well isn't that just prime."

To play the devil's advocate, everyone in Prime Wars except for Megatron was lackluster and boring, so maybe his Primal will be better in a big budget movie with better voice direction.

News Credits: 7 · Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:32 pm

If Optimus Primal been hanging out on Earth long before the Autobots,it makes sense to use Ron Perlman's veteran sounding voice.

Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:35 pm

Eh, he’s no Gary, but Paramount could’ve done much worse.

Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:38 pm

I have to say I hate Ron Perlman. But only because I just watched "Sons of Anarchy" and he was totally awesome in portraying such a despicable character as Clay Monroe. :BOWDOWN:

News Credits: 1 · Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:42 pm

He must have really enjoyed voicing Primal in Power of the Primes to want to reprise the role.

News Credits: 56 · Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:48 pm

bluecatcinema wrote:He must have really enjoyed voicing Primal in Power of the Primes to want to reprise the role.

I'd actually be surprised if he even remembered it. It was probably more the money, and just another chance to act than anything.

News Credits: 4877 · Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:41 pm

TulioDude wrote:If Optimus Primal been hanging out on Earth long before the Autobots,it makes sense to use Ron Perlman's veteran sounding voice.

But the autobots are even older, so how does that comment make any sense.

News Credits: 7 · Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:52 pm

william-james88 wrote:
TulioDude wrote:If Optimus Primal been hanging out on Earth long before the Autobots,it makes sense to use Ron Perlman's veteran sounding voice.

But the autobots are even older, so how does that comment make any sense.

We already have the precedent with Cyberverse with the All Spark creating Cheetor to serve as its Guardian

News Credits: 54 · Mon Jun 28, 2021 7:46 pm

william-james88 wrote:
TulioDude wrote:If Optimus Primal been hanging out on Earth long before the Autobots,it makes sense to use Ron Perlman's veteran sounding voice.

But the autobots are even older, so how does that comment make any sense.

I mean it's already been described in interviews that the Maximals are Ancient, so it seems that in this film it's the other way around.

News Credits: 1646 · Mon Jun 28, 2021 7:56 pm

Well, this will be interesting.

I am very sad they didn't even ask Chalk, he's very disappointed he wasn't even considered.

At the same time, I'm curious to see how Perlman's voice comes out. Marnocha did a great Megatron in Prime Wars but then they neutered all his best parts for WFC. Foushee does a great Cyberverse Optimus, but is terrible in WFC. I hope movie Perlman is far better than Prime Wars Perlman

News Credits: 42 · Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:18 pm

Deadput wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
TulioDude wrote:If Optimus Primal been hanging out on Earth long before the Autobots,it makes sense to use Ron Perlman's veteran sounding voice.

But the autobots are even older, so how does that comment make any sense.

I mean it's already been described in interviews that the Maximals are Ancient, so it seems that in this film it's the other way around.

Maybe the Maximals are still from the future, but they never went back there, so they've been sitting around on Earth for millions of years so they're comparatively ancient

News Credits: 22 · Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:06 pm

GeekyGamer Gal wrote:Welp, I already have the feeling that I will be going into the theaters with as much "enthusiasm" as I did with The Last Knight for this one.

Then don't go. Hit these idiots in the only spot they care about: their bottom line. A lot of others did so with TLK, and it barely crossed $100 million upon release, thus deeming it a failure financially. (I'm not sure what the final box office was, don't really care.) The end result was them abandoning the 3rd film in the 2nd trilogy. And even though I was kinda happy that they finally got the point, I still would have liked to see the story finished. Just with better human characters and better scenes for the TFs.

News Credits: 54 · Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:30 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:And even though I was kinda happy that they finally got the point, I still would have liked to see the story finished. Just with better human characters and better scenes for the TFs.

A comic conclusion would be the best thing we could get and would likely be a better conclusion than what a "TF6" sequel to TLK would give us if it actually gave one.