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-Kanrabat- wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Because that's getting its own spin off movie as a prequel. Hopefully showing shockwave's leadership of the cons in megs absence.
Will this be an actual thing?
And without any woke poison?
ZeroWolf wrote:Because that's getting its own spin off movie as a prequel. Hopefully showing shockwave's leadership of the cons in megs absence.
Rtron wrote:Lol, imagine getting triggered so hard by a piece of marketing.
Randomhero wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Because that's getting its own spin off movie as a prequel. Hopefully showing shockwave's leadership of the cons in megs absence.
Will this be an actual thing?
And without any woke poison?
woke poison…wow. Sometimes you can just smell fans in their posts
-Kanrabat- wrote:Rtron wrote:Lol, imagine getting triggered so hard by a piece of marketing.
Laugh all you want but it's the "death by a thousand cuts" syndrome. By its lonesome its not that bad. But Hollywood shove identity politics hardcore since years, often sabotaging their own movie or the whole franchise in the process. The put on a pedestal things that should NOT matter in the movie. Race, gender, sexual orientation, NONE OF THIS MATTER. The stories and characters are. If I want to see a movie "celebrating Latino culture" I'll watch Coco.
I want to see a movie about Transformers and Transformers culture. But the marketing say that's not what I'm going to get.
I'm tired of this kind of marketing:
Rtron wrote:Dude, I'm from a third world country, you don't need to lecture me about Hollywood hypocrisy. It's been like this forever, you're just noticing it now. And honestly, I'd rather the new buzzword be something positive like this than, I don't know, the metaverse bullshit that's going on on the tech sector.
Big Grim wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Because that's getting its own spin off movie as a prequel. Hopefully showing shockwave's leadership of the cons in megs absence.
This is the first I've heard of that.
~ Grim
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I knew it! I'm glad my instincts about this movie were right. Now I don't have to waste any more time being even mildly curious. After all, it's for "the homies."
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I knew it! I'm glad my instincts about this movie were right. Now I don't have to waste any more time being even mildly curious. After all, it's for "the homies."
Holy racism Batman!
People in these comments just seething over “oH iTs wOkE” because it’s going to (probably briefly) deal with culture outside of America. Was it woke in the Bumblebee movie how it explores 80s American culture by showing us Hailey Steinfeld’s character’s life? Yeah yeah we all want a “100% on Cybertron zero humans plot” but it’s not the end of the world, more and different media will always be coming.
Man, some of these comments make me ashamed to be a Tf fan. If Megatron’s Master Plan happens in real life, y’all would be right in that parade cheering on the Decepticons.
Stormshot_Prime wrote:
Holy racism Batman!
-Kanrabat- wrote:Stormshot_Prime wrote:
Holy racism Batman!
It has NOTHING to do with "racism". Or "sexism". Or any other isms. I can point out dozens of youtube channels featuring black/latino/female/LGBTQ people that are ANTI-WOKE.
What we don't like is when the woke wear race/gender/sexuality like a "devout" Christian's giant golden cross around their neck to show how "virtuous" they are.
-Kanrabat- wrote:Randomhero wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Because that's getting its own spin off movie as a prequel. Hopefully showing shockwave's leadership of the cons in megs absence.
Will this be an actual thing?
And without any woke poison?
woke poison…wow. Sometimes you can just smell fans in their posts
Well, name a single "woke" movie with heavy "woke" marketing that got tremendous success and brought sales records. I'll wait.
william-james88 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Randomhero wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Because that's getting its own spin off movie as a prequel. Hopefully showing shockwave's leadership of the cons in megs absence.
Will this be an actual thing?
And without any woke poison?
woke poison…wow. Sometimes you can just smell fans in their posts
Well, name a single "woke" movie with heavy "woke" marketing that got tremendous success and brought sales records. I'll wait.
The two Black Panther films had similar articles to this one which would state the high percentage of coloured cast members . The first marketed a black male lead along with a 99% coloured cast and made over one billion dollars. The new one promoted a different origin for Namor, with Mayan roots, along with the rest of the cast being mostly black women, and it's doing very well at the cinemas too. Both had heavy "woke" marketing and both got tremendous success and both broke sales records.
DeathReviews wrote:If Hollywood wants to make a movie which has its primary focus as the 'celebration black and latino culture', that's fine. But what does celebrating black/latino culture have to do with a civil war between two factions of giant alien robots from a completely different planet?
-Kanrabat- wrote:DeathReviews wrote:If Hollywood wants to make a movie which has its primary focus as the 'celebration black and latino culture', that's fine. But what does celebrating black/latino culture have to do with a civil war between two factions of giant alien robots from a completely different planet?
This.
-Kanrabat- wrote:william-james88 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Randomhero wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Because that's getting its own spin off movie as a prequel. Hopefully showing shockwave's leadership of the cons in megs absence.
Will this be an actual thing?
And without any woke poison?
woke poison…wow. Sometimes you can just smell fans in their posts
Well, name a single "woke" movie with heavy "woke" marketing that got tremendous success and brought sales records. I'll wait.
The two Black Panther films had similar articles to this one which would state the high percentage of coloured cast members . The first marketed a black male lead along with a 99% coloured cast and made over one billion dollars. The new one promoted a different origin for Namor, with Mayan roots, along with the rest of the cast being mostly black women, and it's doing very well at the cinemas too. Both had heavy "woke" marketing and both got tremendous success and both broke sales records.
I don't consider the first Black Panther movie itself to be "woke" at al. Its marketing was, but not the movie. In fact that movie is ironically "anti-woke". Manly men, Wakanda is a closed-borders country with ethno-centric values. The marketing was "woke" by chanting "diversity" while the movie was anything but diverse.
As for the second one,all i heard was its just some generic "fast food" movie. And if you split hair and over-analize it, it's actually "racist" against Hispanics. TlDr, Black Panther 2 is NOT "woke" at all. Just "meh".
In fact, movies tha are pure woke are thankfully rare. The problem is often the marketing who act like a real Tartufe and pretend that their generic Hollywood junk will "change the world" or something.
-Kanrabat- wrote:I don't consider the first Black Panther movie itself to be "woke" at al. Its marketing was, but not the movie. In fact that movie is ironically "anti-woke". Manly men, Wakanda is a closed-borders country with ethno-centric values. The marketing was "woke" by chanting "diversity" while the movie was anything but diverse.
As for the second one,all i heard was its just some generic "fast food" movie. And if you split hair and over-analize it, it's actually "racist" against Hispanics. TlDr, Black Panther 2 is NOT "woke" at all. Just "meh".
In fact, movies tha are pure woke are thankfully rare. The problem is often the marketing who act like a real Tartufe and pretend that their generic Hollywood junk will "change the world" or something.
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One for each year of the Movieverse's decade strong tenure. Here's to a few more explosive years!
TulioDude wrote:I think you guys are giving too much weight to this interview.
The impression I got from this, is how they are proud of their work, and how someone who came from their paths of life can now contribute and be part of Transformers.
Though this interview does seen to forget guys like Tyrese Gibson and Amaury Nolasco.
Cheesinator wrote:TulioDude wrote:I think you guys are giving too much weight to this interview.
The impression I got from this, is how they are proud of their work, and how someone who came from their paths of life can now contribute and be part of Transformers.
Though this interview does seen to forget guys like Tyrese Gibson and Amaury Nolasco.
Agreed. But it's the fact that people are reacting with such disgust to even the possibility of nonwhite culture having a focus that is troubling.
william-james88 wrote:It's fine if those two films don't fit within your definition, but they did for others. People even coined the term "Woke-anda". And they had lots of articles like the one I newsed. That's why I mentioned them, they seem like a good comparison to what we see here. If you don't have an issue with those films, then I think you won't mind this next Transformers either. From everything I see, this film won't be a pure "woke" film. It will be a live action TF film though, with Bay involved in some aspect, which comes with everything people may or may not like about those. But that's another discussion.
Stormshot_Prime wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:DeathReviews wrote:If Hollywood wants to make a movie which has its primary focus as the 'celebration black and latino culture', that's fine. But what does celebrating black/latino culture have to do with a civil war between two factions of giant alien robots from a completely different planet?
This.
“What does the setting and characters have to do with the actual movie?!”
Stormshot_Prime wrote:Cheesinator wrote:TulioDude wrote:I think you guys are giving too much weight to this interview.
The impression I got from this, is how they are proud of their work, and how someone who came from their paths of life can now contribute and be part of Transformers.
Though this interview does seen to forget guys like Tyrese Gibson and Amaury Nolasco.
Agreed. But it's the fact that people are reacting with such disgust to even the possibility of nonwhite culture having a focus that is troubling.
It’s downright horrifying. All because the latest political buzzword has come to be used as a “safe” avenue to express general bigotry. A franchise about change on a fundamental level seems to have a lot of people mad that things dare change. ALL OF THIS for a movie that, overall, will probably be relatively generic (not to discredit my excitement, just a realistic expectation).
I can't speak for other people, but I would have the same angry reaction if the director claimed that the movie was made to "celebrate French people and Christian values".
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