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Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby TulioDude » Tue May 16, 2023 10:13 am

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Brokebot wrote:Considering the movie makers near complete disregard for most Transformers alt modes, the other gorilla is actually Rattrap.

Given that the alt modes of the Maximals in this movie reflect those of their namesakes in Beast Wars this comment seems silly.

Just sayin'


I agree. All of the Beast Wars characters seen pretty inspired of their season 1 designs, with Cheetor being the one that went into a more original rendition.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby Brokebot » Tue May 16, 2023 10:20 am

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Brokebot wrote:Considering the movie makers near complete disregard for most Transformers alt modes, the other gorilla is actually Rattrap.

Given that the alt modes of the Maximals in this movie reflect those of their namesakes in Beast Wars this comment seems silly.

Just sayin'


I agree. All of the Beast Wars characters seen pretty inspired of their season 1 designs, with Cheetor being the one that went into a more original rendition.


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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby Cmdr. Trailblazer » Tue May 16, 2023 5:21 pm

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I'm going to guess that if that IS Apelinq, or some other character (the other ape I can think of is Primal Prime), it'll be of a similar vain to Cliffjumper in the Bumblebee movie, to introduce the audience to the protagonist.He or she will likely confront or be confronted by Scourge. Scourge may make some vague or direct reference to his plans or his master's plans, they fight, and Scourge will kill or incapacitate "Apelinq" to show us what kind of threat he poses to the Autobots. But that's just a theory.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Wed May 17, 2023 5:53 pm

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Brokebot wrote:Considering the movie makers near complete disregard for most Transformers alt modes, the other gorilla is actually Rattrap.

Given that the alt modes of the Maximals in this movie reflect those of their namesakes in Beast Wars this comment seems silly.

Just sayin'


Considering it was intended as a joke, and most jokes are by definition silly, you almost got it there, Sheldon Cooper. :roll:


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Plus, a lot of your opinions are of the negative nature so what else was I supposed to interpret it as?
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu May 18, 2023 7:08 pm

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The Latest TV Spots for Rise of the Beasts Offer Never before seen Scenes and Transformations

Postby william-james88 » Thu May 18, 2023 8:28 pm

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If the marketing campaign is telling us something about this film, it's that you are going to see lots of Bot action and more Transformations than before. What is very peculiar about one of these new spots is that there is an action highlight for Optimus Prime transforming into his truck mode. We haven't seen that before in other films for Optimus, where the highlight is always about him going from truck to bot. There is also our best shot yet of Nightbird, a great action shot of Bumblebee and another transformation shot for Optimus Primal. Paramount also posted a random video of this Transformers film through a Wes Anderson filter. You can see all three videos below.





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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby First-Aid » Thu May 18, 2023 10:16 pm

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Seems like there is more fanservice and little easter eggs in this movie than in past TF movies, judging by what we've seen so far.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby Spider5800 » Fri May 19, 2023 6:48 am

Hey! Having Optimus blast off in truck mode with a rocket on the back was MY idea! I did that when I was 10, they stole it from me!

Seriously though, this all looks pretty fun. Hopefully this one is more Bumblebee and less TLK.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Fri May 19, 2023 6:58 am

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Spider5800 wrote:Hey! Having Optimus blast off in truck mode with a rocket on the back was MY idea! I did that when I was 10, they stole it from me!

Seriously though, this all looks pretty fun. Hopefully this one is more Bumblebee and less TLK.


Optimus transforms at least 3 times in the film while we don't even see him transforming once in TLK. So it at least won't be that bad.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby DeathReviews » Fri May 19, 2023 8:12 am

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Wow - it only took them sixteen years and at least seven movies to figure out that Optimus could be shown changing to his ALT mode. Truly the entertainment industry is staffed with forward-thinking geniuses...
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby Stormshot_Prime » Fri May 19, 2023 11:01 am

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william-james88 wrote:
Spider5800 wrote:Hey! Having Optimus blast off in truck mode with a rocket on the back was MY idea! I did that when I was 10, they stole it from me!

Seriously though, this all looks pretty fun. Hopefully this one is more Bumblebee and less TLK.


Optimus transforms at least 3 times in the film while we don't even see him transforming once in TLK. So it at least won't be that bad.


HOLY CRAP, I just realized this. It's actually kind of astounding. He just emerges from some smoke in truck mode at the end of the film. That's just bad, like no one transforming in MTMTE bad (except MTMTE was written well). It's like an Iron Man film where Tony Stark just talks and never dons a suit.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby Spider5800 » Fri May 19, 2023 11:58 am

DeathReviews wrote:Wow - it only took them sixteen years and at least seven movies to figure out that Optimus could be shown changing to his ALT mode. Truly the entertainment industry is staffed with forward-thinking geniuses...

That can't be correct. I'm positive we saw him transform from robot to truck at least once, the beginning of RotF after he parachutes out of the plane. There's gotta be others.


william-james88 wrote:Optimus transforms at least 3 times in the film while we don't even see him transforming once in TLK. So it at least won't be that bad.

This, on the other hand, I absolutely believe. Think OP was only in truck mode once in that entire movie.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby Cheesinator » Fri May 19, 2023 12:51 pm

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God damn, Prime's transformation looked badass.

I really hope this movie isn't trash; the trailers and some ad spots have got my partner and some friends kinda hyped to see it, which hasn't happened since Revenge of the Fallen.

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william-james88 wrote:Optimus transforms at least 3 times in the film while we don't even see him transforming once in TLK. So it at least won't be that bad.


HOLY CRAP, I just realized this. It's actually kind of astounding. He just emerges from some smoke in truck mode at the end of the film. That's just bad, like no one transforming in MTMTE bad (except MTMTE was written well). It's like an Iron Man film where Tony Stark just talks and never dons a suit.


Hold on, I know they didn't transform a lot in MTMTE but they definitely did it a few times. Rodimus, Cyclonus, Whirl, Rung, Star Saber, Overlord and Tarn (off the top of my head) definitely do so at the very least, not to mention prejudice against alt modes being a huge part of the plot.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Fri May 19, 2023 1:14 pm

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Cheesinator wrote:Hold on, I know they didn't transform a lot in MTMTE (...) prejudice against alt modes being a huge part of the plot.


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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Fri May 19, 2023 2:52 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
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Cheesinator wrote:Hold on, I know they didn't transform a lot in MTMTE (...) prejudice against alt modes being a huge part of the plot.


wat

The world was conquered by bigoted Actionmasters? :shock:
Prejudice against altmode types, as in Functionism.


Oh right, logical.

I remember on top of my head in an episode of TF Prime:

Starscream to Knockout: "What do you transform into?"
Knockout: "Into a car, why?"
Starscream with disgust: "Ugh... You're one of those..."

I can't find the video, nor I remember what the episode it was in, but that's a memorable quote.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Fri May 19, 2023 2:53 pm

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Cheesinator wrote:Hold on, I know they didn't transform a lot in MTMTE (...) prejudice against alt modes being a huge part of the plot.


wat

The world was conquered by bigoted Actionmasters? :shock:
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Oh right, logical.

I remember on top of my head in an episode of TF Prime:

Starscream to Knockout: "What do you transform into?"
Knockout: "Into a car, why?"
Starscream with disgust: "Ugh... You're one of those..."

I can't find the video, nor I remember what the episode it was in, but that's a memorable quote.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Fri May 19, 2023 3:06 pm

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DeathReviews wrote:Wow - it only took them sixteen years and at least seven movies to figure out that Optimus could be shown changing to his ALT mode. Truly the entertainment industry is staffed with forward-thinking geniuses...

That can't be correct. I'm positive we saw him transform from robot to truck at least once, the beginning of RotF after he parachutes out of the plane. There's gotta be others.
IIRC in AoE after the Cemetery Wind attack he transforms to truck while still in his evasion mode.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby Spider5800 » Fri May 19, 2023 6:13 pm

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DeathReviews wrote:Wow - it only took them sixteen years and at least seven movies to figure out that Optimus could be shown changing to his ALT mode. Truly the entertainment industry is staffed with forward-thinking geniuses...

That can't be correct. I'm positive we saw him transform from robot to truck at least once, the beginning of RotF after he parachutes out of the plane. There's gotta be others.
IIRC in AoE after the Cemetery Wind attack he transforms to truck while still in his evasion mode.


Yeah, and his first appearance in the first film (admittedly he's halfway done when the camera pans over to him).
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby TulioDude » Fri May 19, 2023 6:15 pm

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DeathReviews wrote:Wow - it only took them sixteen years and at least seven movies to figure out that Optimus could be shown changing to his ALT mode. Truly the entertainment industry is staffed with forward-thinking geniuses...

That can't be correct. I'm positive we saw him transform from robot to truck at least once, the beginning of RotF after he parachutes out of the plane. There's gotta be others.
IIRC in AoE after the Cemetery Wind attack he transforms to truck while still in his evasion mode.


Correct. Every movie has a minimum of at least two scenes to show Optimus transforming, with The Last Knight and Bumblebee being the exceptions.


I like how Revenge of The Fallen in particular, does the Shanghai arrival and scene at NEST HQ.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sun May 21, 2023 11:36 am

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DeathReviews wrote:Wow - it only took them sixteen years and at least seven movies to figure out that Optimus could be shown changing to his ALT mode. Truly the entertainment industry is staffed with forward-thinking geniuses...

That can't be correct. I'm positive we saw him transform from robot to truck at least once, the beginning of RotF after he parachutes out of the plane. There's gotta be others.


He's transformed to truck mode a few times but the big novelty here is that he's transforming into a truck for an action scene, like in the 86 film. That's new for the live action films. He tends to transform into a truck for a disguise, so a defensive reason, rather than an offensive one as we see here.

Also, just a general statement, bots did Transform in MTMTE. Just not all the time as there wasn't a reason to. But when there was an action scene that called for that function, they didn't shy from it, like in this beautiful bit:

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Postby ZeroWolf » Sun May 21, 2023 11:51 am

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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun May 21, 2023 11:55 am

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DeathReviews wrote:Wow - it only took them sixteen years and at least seven movies to figure out that Optimus could be shown changing to his ALT mode. Truly the entertainment industry is staffed with forward-thinking geniuses...

That can't be correct. I'm positive we saw him transform from robot to truck at least once, the beginning of RotF after he parachutes out of the plane. There's gotta be others.


He's transformed to truck mode a few times but the big novelty here is that he's transforming into a truck for an action scene, like in the 86 film. That's new for the live action films. He tends to transform into a truck for a disguise, so a defensive reason, rather than an offensive one as we see here.
How does his truck transformation during the Shanghai scene in ROTF not count as an action scene truck transformation?
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Box Office Prediction for Rise of the Beasts Peg it with $70M for its Domestic Opening Week-end

Postby william-james88 » Sun May 21, 2023 12:12 pm

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Due to many films postponing their release due to the pandemic, everything is coming out all at once. So within the next month, we are getting The Little Mermaid, Into the Spiderverse, Elemental and The Flash with Rise of the Beasts in the middle of all that. And these films are not only big blockbusters but also all family friendly, making for some tough competition.
Be that as it may, the prediction from Deadline is a bold one, with an estimated $70 M domestic opening week-end. So that would be just for Canada and the US, and they remind us that these films have made more money in China than domestically so the film could make a bulk of its money overseas.
However, please remember that while China may sell a lot of tickets, the cinemas there retain a much bigger share of the price than in North America (Paramount would get around 40-50% of the ticket sales in NA and less in Asia).

The budget for Rise of the Beasts is estimated to be $200 Million before marketing. So the film would have to make around $500-$600 Million to break even (especially if the bulk of ticket sales comes from overseas). The Last Knight did manage to make 600 Million but Bumblebee did not. Let us know what your predictions are.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby DeathReviews » Sun May 21, 2023 8:12 pm

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It's hard to predict with certainty, since we live in a universe of infinite possibilities. But I think they're over-estimating, which is something the geniuses in Hollywood have been doing a lot recently. Especially if the producers and writers try to use the film as a soapbox to vent their personal hang-ups, which has also been a predictable (and annoying) habit of theirs.
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