"Memo is new to town, he's Charlie's next door neighbour and someone who we get to know as she gets to know him at the same time. We see their relationship bloom and grow and be challenged; they have a lovely friendship in the film but the core of the movie is the relationship between Charlie and Bee."
We're swiftly disabused of that notion thanks to a barrage of familiar faces including Decepticon premiereship players Shockwave, Starscream and Blitzwing, all in their original, first generation forms.
"I grew up with these Transformers and the story that I wanted to tell was something that was resonant and evocative of those original wave of Transformers stories. I loved those things so much. They were new, they were magical, they were wondrous. They connected with me emotionally and they were exciting to watch. That's the kind of film I wanted to make here."
"There's a lot going on," laughs Knight. "If I was going to make a Transformers film I wanted to give nods to some of the things that I loved most about the series to begin with and for me seeing those original designs on Shockwave and Soundwave and Ravage and Wheeljack and all those different characters was a really exciting opportunity to take the audience back to that initial wave of Transformers and to evoke the same feeling that they evoked in me. I was pretty giddy bringing those guys to life."
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:william-james88 wrote:But none of the robots in these films are live action either, they are all CGI. The fight between Bee and Optimus in TLK is all CGI until cade yeager shows up. So this is the same thing but devoid of any BS.
Come on Will, let's not start one of these conversations again. You know what I mean.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Quantum Surge wrote:Still doesn't defend how out of place everyone is on Cybertron. I can imagine myself wanting to tune out if we see Megatron having a Walther P38 trigger between his legs instead of having the same 2007 design that was shown in a Cybertron scene and when he was discovered by Archibald. But hey, Travis Knight can just go ahead and rip off his suit while showing that he wears an I heart G1 shirt. But that's none of my business.
william-james88 wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:william-james88 wrote:But none of the robots in these films are live action either, they are all CGI. The fight between Bee and Optimus in TLK is all CGI until cade yeager shows up. So this is the same thing but devoid of any BS.
Come on Will, let's not start one of these conversations again. You know what I mean.
Not really. We had a similar cybertron only scene before in the trilogy.
Quantum Surge wrote:Meh. Wheeljack being in a G1 styled body wasn't so bad since that was in the comic tie-ins. And part of me feels that the Shockwave design was also referencing when Shockwave was more G1 inspired and less monstrous.
Still doesn't defend how out of place everyone is on Cybertron. I can imagine myself wanting to tune out if we see Megatron having a Walther P38 trigger between his legs instead of having the same 2007 design that was shown in a Cybertron scene and when he was discovered by Archibald. But hey, Travis Knight can just go ahead and rip off his suit while showing that he wears an I heart G1 shirt. But that's none of my business.
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:william-james88 wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:william-james88 wrote:But none of the robots in these films are live action either, they are all CGI. The fight between Bee and Optimus in TLK is all CGI until cade yeager shows up. So this is the same thing but devoid of any BS.
Come on Will, let's not start one of these conversations again. You know what I mean.
Not really. We had a similar cybertron only scene before in the trilogy.
Holy mother of shite.
Live Action CGI is still live action. That's basically saying most of the MCU is not live action because of how much is CGI. This means there is no MCU Hulk according to your logic.
Smooth out the Cybertron scenes and call it something else, another continuity. Not the movies.
william-james88 wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:william-james88 wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:william-james88 wrote:But none of the robots in these films are live action either, they are all CGI. The fight between Bee and Optimus in TLK is all CGI until cade yeager shows up. So this is the same thing but devoid of any BS.
Come on Will, let's not start one of these conversations again. You know what I mean.
Not really. We had a similar cybertron only scene before in the trilogy.
Holy mother of shite.
Live Action CGI is still live action. That's basically saying most of the MCU is not live action because of how much is CGI. This means there is no MCU Hulk according to your logic.
Smooth out the Cybertron scenes and call it something else, another continuity. Not the movies.
Why? Why cant we call those scenes live action CGI as well. What makes them different than what I showed you? is it the fact that you never see those models interact with humans? I really dont get it. Its in a live action film, its live action CGI.
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:It does not fit. It is WFC gameplay as a prelude to Prime. I am not saying it is not live action, I am saying it is live action that does not fit in the aesthetic and should not be live action, it should be simplified and made a new WFC game, not a live action movie.
william-james88 wrote:
Its all CG, there is no live action element to it. If you find that these above look live action while the new stuff doesnt, then Michael Bay was right in saying that G1 designs are unadabtable to this format and our beloved autobots and decepticons should look like a pile pf scrap metal with no smooth surfaces. I personally find these new scenes of cybertron far more appealing than that scene of Megatron meeting the fallen
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
zfogshooterz wrote:Shatter and Dropkick are literally just FANTASTIC! Love 'em! They literally shows on why I was into the TF live-action films in the first place. Just amazing. Blitzwing is totally awesome too! The fight scenes between Bee and those cons are just WOW!
Really hoping there's gonna be Barricade there.
As for the G1-esque bots, I personally feel that this don't mix well with the awesomeness Bee and the cons have brought. Don't get me wrong. They look pretty nice. But they don't seem to belong in this continuity. I would be really impressed had they been introduced in another installment (could be a new series, or a game), but in this movie? That feeling is kinda stamped out.
Thankfully, the stuff that's on earth is amazing enough to still get me hyped for this movie.
Just my two cents.
zfogshooterz wrote:Shatter and Dropkick are literally just FANTASTIC! Love 'em! They literally shows on why I was into the TF live-action films in the first place. Just amazing. Blitzwing is totally awesome too! The fight scenes between Bee and those cons are just WOW!
Really hoping there's gonna be Barricade there.
As for the G1-esque bots, I personally feel that this don't mix well with the awesomeness Bee and the cons have brought. Don't get me wrong. They look pretty nice. But they don't seem to belong in this continuity. I would be really impressed had they been introduced in another installment (could be a new series, or a game), but in this movie? That feeling is kinda stamped out.
Thankfully, the stuff that's on earth is amazing enough to still get me hyped for this movie.
Just my two cents.
You must be referring to elsewhere, since on this site in this very thread the most vocal reactions have been criticizing the G1-based designs, not loving them.Burn wrote:I am so incredibly over this movie. For years anyone who reacted negatively to a trailer were shouted down and told to wait until the movie was released before judging.
But this is the complete opposite, just because of a few seconds of G1-esque designs and suddenly it's the greatest movie ever. ugh ... my expectations were low, but given how people have peed their pants over this trailer I feel like logging off for a few weeks until the over-hype dies down until December.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Burn wrote:I am so incredibly over this movie. For years anyone who reacted negatively to a trailer were shouted down and told to wait until the movie was released before judging.
But this is the complete opposite, just because of a few seconds of G1-esque designs and suddenly it's the greatest movie ever. ugh ... my expectations were low, but given how people have peed their pants over this trailer I feel like logging off for a few weeks until the over-hype dies down until December.
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Now I'm just worried the Studio Series I enjoy collecting will get contaminated by G1-style toys that won't look much different to what's been happening in the Power of the Primes or the new Seige stuff or whatever. Keep these things seperate and in their own lil space of fandom.
Burn wrote:I am so incredibly over this movie. For years anyone who reacted negatively to a trailer were shouted down and told to wait until the movie was released before judging.
But this is the complete opposite, just because of a few seconds of G1-esque designs and suddenly it's the greatest movie ever. ugh ... my expectations were low, but given how people have peed their pants over this trailer I feel like logging off for a few weeks until the over-hype dies down until December.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
william-james88 wrote:As for Bee being Bay-verse Bee, I feel thats only because of his face. Of course, a head is a big deal, it totally defines you. But for this Bee, its all thats left. The rest of the bot feels very G1 styled (not necessaily G1 Bee,but G1 in general), with all the smooth surfaces. I think if his head was made more G1 ala Soundwave and Prime in this film, it would truly reveal just how different this been design is compared to the established Bay look.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
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