Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
o.supreme wrote:In all honesty, it doesn't really matter, but for the sake of *geek talk*, there are way to many inconsistencies in ALL live action movies. I tried to squint and head-canon things for myself, but once I saw the TLK, the damage to the continuity was pretty much irreparable. I'm just glad BB was a decent film, and I dont place it in any context or continuity with any other film. I dont get caught up with what to call it, other than just a "Transformers Film", plain and simple.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:They just need to stop interviewing this guy. He is not the only one part of the project, and seeing how successful it is, you should just stop trying to make it a Prequel and justifying an even bigger continuity headache.
Just call it a reboot! Let it happen!
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Deadput wrote:who's going to care for Transformers at 50 or 60 years old?
o.supreme wrote:Deadput wrote:who's going to care for Transformers at 50 or 60 years old?
Original Star Trek fans are still very much into their *Trek* despite all the reboots and re-imaginings. They hold those original 3 TV seasons and 6 theatrical films as *gold*. If I'm still alive in another 10-20 years, I'll still be into Transformers. Even if the brand is ruined by horrible changes, that doesn't undo the original toys and show I grew up enjoying.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Eat my ass funpub.
Burn wrote:And this is for taking Nemesis Maximo seriously.
*high fives Silly in the face*
carytheone wrote:I can't be assed to do any better right now.
Deadput wrote:o.supreme wrote:In all honesty, it doesn't really matter, but for the sake of *geek talk*, there are way to many inconsistencies in ALL live action movies. I tried to squint and head-canon things for myself, but once I saw the TLK, the damage to the continuity was pretty much irreparable. I'm just glad BB was a decent film, and I dont place it in any context or continuity with any other film. I dont get caught up with what to call it, other than just a "Transformers Film", plain and simple.
I don't care for being super strict to the continuity of things generally even if plot holes bug me, but I don't think that trying to salvage a film franchise that breaks continuity with each film is going to be worth it.
TLK tanked, if that's not a wake up call, then franchise suicide will be the eventual fate, I don't want the Transformers films to just stop for a long time because stubborn people don't try to fix their mistakes.
Are any of us going to be invested as much when a reboot is announced 10 years later? G1 will be even older at that point and the 80's folks will be much older then so your losing the prime opportunity to draw in those people, who's going to care for Transformers at 50 or 60 years old?
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:They just need to stop interviewing this guy. He is not the only one part of the project, and seeing how successful it is, you should just stop trying to make it a Prequel and justifying an even bigger continuity headache.
Just call it a reboot! Let it happen!
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Eat my ass funpub.
Burn wrote:And this is for taking Nemesis Maximo seriously.
*high fives Silly in the face*
carytheone wrote:I can't be assed to do any better right now.
Nemesis Maximo wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:They just need to stop interviewing this guy. He is not the only one part of the project, and seeing how successful it is, you should just stop trying to make it a Prequel and justifying an even bigger continuity headache.
Just call it a reboot! Let it happen!
Very much this. Since when are Producers ever the people who have any clue?
Kevin Feige is literally the only Hollywood producer without his head up his own ass.
Isn't the San Francisco area (which is where Brighton Falls seems to be near to), like, never attacked in any of the five main movies? If so, I think the Watsons and Memo might be okay.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Also, I cannot fathom Bee never seeing Charlie again. Or the thought of Charlie dying in DotM or TLK during massive attacks.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Isn't the San Francisco area (which is where Brighton Falls seems to be near to), like, never attacked in any of the five main movies? If so, I think the Watsons and Memo might be okay.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Also, I cannot fathom Bee never seeing Charlie again. Or the thought of Charlie dying in DotM or TLK during massive attacks.
Until we get any confirmation, I'm sticking to thinking that the Bumblebee movie just swept TLK under the rug, wanting us to pretend it didn't happen.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Isn't the San Francisco area (which is where Brighton Falls seems to be near to), like, never attacked in any of the five main movies? If so, I think the Watsons and Memo might be okay.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Also, I cannot fathom Bee never seeing Charlie again. Or the thought of Charlie dying in DotM or TLK during massive attacks.
It wasn't, but who knows what Bay had destroyed during TLK when Cybertron struck, or where they could have moved to
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Until we get any confirmation, I'm sticking to thinking that the Bumblebee movie just swept TLK under the rug, wanting us to pretend it didn't happen.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Isn't the San Francisco area (which is where Brighton Falls seems to be near to), like, never attacked in any of the five main movies? If so, I think the Watsons and Memo might be okay.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Also, I cannot fathom Bee never seeing Charlie again. Or the thought of Charlie dying in DotM or TLK during massive attacks.
It wasn't, but who knows what Bay had destroyed during TLK when Cybertron struck, or where they could have moved to
The Autobots left Cybertron in Bumblebee because they couldn't win against the Decepticons and needed to regroup and establish a new base elsewhere. Optimus chose Earth and sent Bumblebee there in advance of the others. The AllSpark had nothing to do with the events of the Bumblebee movie.Sentinel_Primal wrote:... So... Prime's logic was, leave the planet, go back, and then leave for the exact same reason... Is that what he's saying? Cause that's entirely stupid, and not even Bayverse Prime was that stupid. Stupid enough to continue talking to Sam after RotF, but not so stupid that he would waste time, energy, and potentially lives on that stupid of a plan
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
RodimalToyota wrote:Old Bony is a great Producer, He doesn’t wanna sacrifice any DVD and BluRay sales of the first five movies. By telling everyone its a soft reboot. IMO they should want to distance themselves from the Bay movies. People that absolutely loathed the Micheal Bay movies loved BumbleBee. Regular old casual movie goers.
o.supreme wrote:Deadput wrote:who's going to care for Transformers at 50 or 60 years old?
Original Star Trek fans are still very much into their *Trek* despite all the reboots and re-imaginings. They hold those original 3 TV seasons and 6 theatrical films as *gold*.
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Thanks for clearing that up, Lorenzo. It’s nice to know that you and other Hollywood types totally and completely understand how a movie is perceived by fans. Now I question why I questioned the continuity in the first place. But now it all makes sense.
The above quote was 100% sarcastic.
Sabrblade wrote:Until we get any confirmation, I'm sticking to thinking that the Bumblebee movie just swept TLK under the rug, wanting us to pretend it didn't happen.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Isn't the San Francisco area (which is where Brighton Falls seems to be near to), like, never attacked in any of the five main movies? If so, I think the Watsons and Memo might be okay.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Also, I cannot fathom Bee never seeing Charlie again. Or the thought of Charlie dying in DotM or TLK during massive attacks.
It wasn't, but who knows what Bay had destroyed during TLK when Cybertron struck, or where they could have moved to
Or Star Trek: The Slow Motion Picture?william-james88 wrote:o.supreme wrote:Deadput wrote:who's going to care for Transformers at 50 or 60 years old?
Original Star Trek fans are still very much into their *Trek* despite all the reboots and re-imaginings. They hold those original 3 TV seasons and 6 theatrical films as *gold*.
Even Star Trek V?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Or Star Trek: The Slow Motion Picture?william-james88 wrote:o.supreme wrote:Deadput wrote:who's going to care for Transformers at 50 or 60 years old?
Original Star Trek fans are still very much into their *Trek* despite all the reboots and re-imaginings. They hold those original 3 TV seasons and 6 theatrical films as *gold*.
Even Star Trek V?
Aimless Misfire wrote:When they remade/copied Star Wars episode IV & called it The Force Awakens people were pissed & hated it. When they remade/copied the 2007 Transformers movie & called it Bumblebee everybody loved it.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Deadput wrote:God damn it Lorenzo making this a prequel limits what stories can be told by a huge martian.
You can't have the mass populace finding out about the Transformers because they don't know till 2007 unless you pull off the whole Men In Black mind wipe scene (Or the military nukes the town or executes/silences civilian witnesses.) So that limits where the movie can take place and where the Transformers can be in robot mode.
You have to make Sector 7 the only actual military involved with the Transformers since the most of USA doesn't know anything in 2007 (I think the current President at the time knows about Sector 7 but not that they had Megatron if I remember the film correctly)
You can't have Megatron around on Earth at all which limits his presence to flashbacks and prequels on Cybertron because he's frozen since sometime before 1897 where he was first discovered by Sam's great grandfather and then at Sector 7's base in the 1930's at Hoover Dam (Which was created to keep the Allspark in the first place, and let me remind you that Shatter and Dropkick were inside the base and give full access to all of Sector 7's equipment, there is no logical reason why they did not find out about either the Allspark or Megatron, they were able to detect Bumblebee's signal from Saturn's moon so they must have some good scanners.)
You limit the fates of characters in the films and who can show up, you can't kill certain characters who appear in the other films and character development is wasted on them because they die off later with little characterization which will leave people unsatisfied or dread at the fact that say Jazz is going to die in the first Transformers film anyways so what's the point of giving him any role? Like no fan is going to get invested in them, Bay fan, G1 fan or otherwise.
Ah yeah at some point you need to "upgrade" the characters to Bayverse looks like Starscream has to stop being a Seeker and turn into a dorito at some point or Soundwave becoming vastly different and gaining a new voice.
You put someone new like Bludgeon on Earth and then you got to kill him off because he can't be around by 2007, can't bring in any tech like Space Bridges or Matrix because of the other films.
I'm starting to ramble but my god making this a prequel or at the very least not going into a new direction is absolutely idiotic.
Did The Last Knight not happen or something? Will nothing have been learned?
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