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Deadput wrote:Faces like Cliffjumper is what you get when you want them to have the designs be like the originals.
The AOE Autobots, especially Crosshairs have already shown us the result of this kind of design.
Liquid faces don't work in live action this is why they went with the metal "insect" faces in the bay films in the first place because the liquid faces are too uncanny because Transformers are just digital CGI creations their not real any attempt at making their faces be "metal humans" will look awful.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Saw the movie yesterday. With no pun intended, I give it a solid B.
Without going into too much detail, the things that (again, no pun intended) bugged me the most were the two human murders that were needlessly callous and disgusting, and Otis's onscreen vomiting. We did NOT need any of those psychotic/gross-out moments in this movie, and I was so looking forward to this finally being a TF movie that wasn't going to have that kind of stuff in it, and yet the movie just couldn't get away without having them. Ugh.
My problem wasn't with them killing the humans, but with how it was presented in the movie. It was sick and gross.Black Hat wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Saw the movie yesterday. With no pun intended, I give it a solid B.
Without going into too much detail, the things that (again, no pun intended) bugged me the most were the two human murders that were needlessly callous and disgusting, and Otis's onscreen vomiting. We did NOT need any of those psychotic/gross-out moments in this movie, and I was so looking forward to this finally being a TF movie that wasn't going to have that kind of stuff in it, and yet the movie just couldn't get away without having them. Ugh.
Otis blowing chunks I can kind of agree with, I guess, but the two humans getting glooped actually felt well done to me. Like, it was nice that the Decepticons were not only actual competent threats, but also legitimately evil. Not just "We'll take over the world and...uh...impose harsh but ultimately humane and child-friendly working conditions on the native populace?" or "Bwahaha! We have stolen the MacGuffin and we're not giving it back, nyer nyer ni nyer nyer!". Like it's visceral, believable evil one would expect from hugely powerful alien bad guys, in much the same way as a cruel human might pull the wings off small insects. And the gun that turned the humans into protoplasm was a very, very clever way of doing "bloodless carnage" whilst still being really quite chilling and horrific. No explosion of gore but at the same time no overly tame scream-and-fall-over cliche either.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:My problem wasn't with them killing the humans, but with how it was presented in the movie. It was sick and gross.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Deadput wrote:Sabrblade wrote:My problem wasn't with them killing the humans, but with how it was presented in the movie. It was sick and gross.
I mean the only way they could keep the Pg 13 is if they went DOTM and had them leave bones/dust behind but that would probably be way too dark for this movie.
I just thought of it like some parts in the Men in Black movies that had deaths like that too.
What makes it gross in your opinion?, the slime? It came across as silly more so then anything else, but that's just my thoughts.
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
The sci-fi violence outside of the gross-out moments was already intense enough for a PG-13 rating. If the gross-out bits were truly the main reason that the film got rather PG-13 over PG, then that's as ludicrous an excuse as the 1986 movie having Spike and Magnus cuss to get rated PG over G. Both cases jar with literally everything else in the rest of each movie in terms of tone and decency.Deadput wrote:Sabrblade wrote:My problem wasn't with them killing the humans, but with how it was presented in the movie. It was sick and gross.
I mean the only way they could keep the Pg 13 is if they went DOTM and had them leave bones/dust behind but that would probably be way too dark for this movie.
Men in Black is not a family-oriented film. It's an adult action comedy film.Deadput wrote:I just thought of it like some parts in the Men in Black movies that had deaths like that too.
The very fact that they even showed the two humans being gunned down into sploosh onscreen right in front of our faces in and of itself. That by it's very nature is disturbing and detestable. And I fully get that it was supposed to be, but they could have presented Dropkick's gunning them down in a less disgusting fashion.Deadput wrote:What makes it gross in your opinion?, the slime? It came across as silly more so then anything else, but that's just my thoughts.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:No decent human being should ever WANT to see an empathetic living being, no matter how imperfect they may be, callously executed (into a splash of puss, a petrified corpse, or whatever else) right before their eyes. That's the stuff of psychos and sickos.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
ZeroWolf wrote:Games like Halo aren't family games (despite parents letting their kids play them considering the age ratings...)
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Again, it wasn't the fact that Dropkick killed those two people at all that I took issue with, it was HOW the film presented his killing them that bother me. The movie could have so easily had him vaporize them without showing us their being reduced into puss onscreen.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Sabrblade wrote:Again, it wasn't the fact that Dropkick killed those two people at all that I took issue with, it was HOW the film presented his killing them that bother me. The movie could have so easily had him vaporize them without showing us their being reduced into puss onscreen.
Let's not kid ourselves, here. We know that some particular producers for this movie had some say in this film's contents, and this kind of needless gratuity was right up their alley, along with the likes of the masturbation conversation and Bumblebee peeing on Simmons in Movie 1, all of the NSFW content of ROTF, the bathroom scene with Jerry Wang in DOTM, the lingering focus on Lucas's murdered remains in AOE, and the "Ha ha, Vivian's mother and aunts think that Vivian and Cade are having wild sex in her father's study" scene in TLK.Deadput wrote:It was probably done so that they could show off another weird sort of gun like Hot Rod's time gun from TLK, as well as establish Dropkick as more of a bastard then Shatter.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Let's not kid ourselves, here. We know that some particular producers for this movie had some say in this film's contents, and this kind of needless gratuity was right up their alley, along with the likes of the masturbation conversation and Bumblebee peeing on Simmons in Movie 1, all of the NSFW content of ROTF, the bathroom scene with Jerry Wang in DOTM, the lingering focus on Lucas's murdered remains in AOE, and the "Ha ha, Vivian's mother and aunts think that Vivian and Cade are having wild sex in her father's study" scene in TLK.Deadput wrote:It was probably done so that they could show off another weird sort of gun like Hot Rod's time gun from TLK, as well as establish Dropkick as more of a bastard then Shatter.
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
Nuh uh. Looney Tunes stuff doesn't look real.Ironhidensh wrote:You see worse stuff in Looney tunes.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Nuh uh. Looney Tunes stuff doesn't look real.Ironhidensh wrote:You see worse stuff in Looney tunes.
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
That CG fluid sure looked photo-realistic enough to me, as it was meant to look.Ironhidensh wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Nuh uh. Looney Tunes stuff doesn't look real.Ironhidensh wrote:You see worse stuff in Looney tunes.
Neither did that.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Deadput wrote:Man, poor Cliffjumper, on one had I'm disappointed that they pulled a TFP on him so that even if this is a reboot they can't really use him again with the way he went out.
On the other I can't even be mad with the way he went out, he was a brave soldier to the end and his murder truly makes the films Decepticons even more of a threat and gives us another reason to cheer when they get what they deserve.
Sabrblade wrote:Again, it wasn't the fact that Dropkick killed those two people at all that I took issue with, it was HOW the film presented his killing them that bother me. The movie could have so easily had him vaporize them without showing us their being reduced into puss onscreen.
SillyMcGilly wrote:Also all the Decepticons in this movie (on Earth) having died, and there being no Barricade in this one, I wonder if Barricade was a removed concept from this movie to taper off into reboot territory more easily.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
william-james88 wrote:SillyMcGilly wrote:Also all the Decepticons in this movie (on Earth) having died, and there being no Barricade in this one, I wonder if Barricade was a removed concept from this movie to taper off into reboot territory more easily.
But how can it go into reboot territory when Bee looks abot the same as he did when we first see him in the 2007 movie?
Also, the director said this was not a reboot and was never meant to be so I dont know why people are still thinking this. And why would it matter that it ties into the Bay films or not, all that matters is that a film is good. Fast Five is in the same franchise as 2 Fast 2 Furious and the Star Wars films are all over the place in terms of quality even though they share the same continuity.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
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