The Energon Pub

News Credits: 387 · by **Bounti76** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:11 pm

UltraPrimal wrote:I was just saying this yesterday. It's about time they retire this mold. It's 9 years old! I wouldn't be surprised if Hasbro has a new mold in the works. Get ready to sell all your Classics Seekers and rebuy them as the superior Generations/Combiner Wars version.

I'd love to see them make some Combiner Wars Seekers. Either remolds of Silverbolt and one of the Arialbots, or just new molds, as Super Seeker and Regular Seeker mold. The Regular Seeker mold(limbs) be used for the obvious Starscream, Thrust, Sunstorm, Redwing, Skywarp, Dirge, etc, etc, etc. While the Super Seeker(torso) would be used for characters like Skyquake, Dreadwing, MW Starscream, Leozack, etc. It could be really interesting as you could create multiple custom Seeker combiners. You could probably even make a combiner out of just Starscreams(G1, G2, MW, Ghost, Black). Or you could make a combiner out of 4 generic Seekers and Super Seeker.

I'm sure the club could do some of those theoretical Seeker limbs. In fiction, they only have Starscream, Thundercracker (who isn't really a 'Con anymore), Dirge, Acid Storm and Skywarp as limbs. Sunstorm is dead, so are Thrust and Ramjet.

by **gothsaurus** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:20 pm

Just because one comic or continuity says someone is dead, changed sides, or became a stand-in-Devy head.... doesn't mean it's not still on the table as a toy or in another continuity. IDW is far from a proverbial Bible... any more than the old G1 cartoon is... or the movie.

Saying this, I'd love a 6 con Devy... and I'd be open to a seeker combiner, too. Sunstorm can even come hang out.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:21 pm

Counterpunch wrote:I'm so over the 2006 seeker mold.

I feel trapped by it. I have a full squad of them, but they really are dated. I detest the idea of starting over with that group, but really wish they were bigger now that the idea of Classics have evolved.

I feel far more trapped by the MP Seeker mold. It's also from 2006 and even though they changed it a bit, its essentially the very same mold with the same problems.

News Credits: 387 · by **Bounti76** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:33 pm

gothsaurus wrote:Just because one comic or continuity says someone is dead, changed sides, or became a stand-in-Devy head.... doesn't mean it's not still on the table as a toy or in another continuity. IDW is far from a proverbial Bible... any more than the old G1 cartoon is... or the movie.

Saying this, I'd love a 6 con Devy... and I'd be open to a seeker combiner, too. Sunstorm can even come hang out.

Oh, I totally get that. All I'm saying is that they're only likely to do figures that currently feature in fiction. Arcee and Chromia have been fairly prominent (Arcee more so than Chromia), so they get toys. I think we're getting Slingshot as a toy as a nod to the original Superion, even though Alpha Bravo is alive in fiction and Slingshot isn't. But the main Combiner Wars toyline (so far) is almost exclusively characters that are alive and well and fit in with a faction. Bombshell seems to be the only exception to that so far.

News Credits: 3 · by **Randomhero** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:34 pm

Doubledealer93 wrote:thank god.

Yes, the dude who's holding that gun to your head and forcing you to buy toys can finally take his finger off the trigger and you can sleep easy

News Credits: 387 · by **Bounti76** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:37 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:I'm so over the 2006 seeker mold.

I feel trapped by it. I have a full squad of them, but they really are dated. I detest the idea of starting over with that group, but really wish they were bigger now that the idea of Classics have evolved.

I feel far more trapped by the MP Seeker mold. It's also from 2006 and even though they changed it a bit, its essentially the very same mold with the same problems.

It was fairly extensively changed between the original MP-3 Starscream and MP-11 Starscream, no? What are the problems with the mold that you see? I only have Acid Storm to look at as an example. I have the original Hasbro Skywarp and Hasbro MP Thundercracker, but they're still in boxes.

News Credits: 21 · by **dragons** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:41 pm

one of good looking earth f15 jets to bad same thing cant be done with bumblee how many reapaints have we had with him and prime movie versions, maybe same thing will be dont armaada deluxe starscream, seekers are stroomtroopers fun little army builders lok good in repaints

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:41 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:I'm so over the 2006 seeker mold.

I feel trapped by it. I have a full squad of them, but they really are dated. I detest the idea of starting over with that group, but really wish they were bigger now that the idea of Classics have evolved.

I feel far more trapped by the MP Seeker mold. It's also from 2006 and even though they changed it a bit, its essentially the very same mold with the same problems.

You can't tell me the updated MP mold has the same issues as the Classics mold. You just can't. The only improvements on the MP mold I can imagine are a slight height boost, waste swivel, updated hands in the post-MP10 style, and maybe and a hinge at the bottom of the wing so that thin extension can fold up into the main wing body instead of sticking out. That sounds extensive, but when the Classics Seeker mold is overdue for an outright replacement, it's a stark difference.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:51 pm

megatronus wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:I'm so over the 2006 seeker mold.

I feel trapped by it. I have a full squad of them, but they really are dated. I detest the idea of starting over with that group, but really wish they were bigger now that the idea of Classics have evolved.

I feel far more trapped by the MP Seeker mold. It's also from 2006 and even though they changed it a bit, its essentially the very same mold with the same problems.

You can't tell me the updated MP mold has the same issues of the Classics mold. You just can't. The only improvements on the MP mold I can imagine is a slight height boost, waste swivel, updated hands in the post-MP10 style, and maybe and a hinge at the bottom of the wing so that thin extension can fold up into the main wing body instead of sticking out. That sounds extensive, but when the Classics Seeker mold literally is overdue for an outright replacement, it's a stark difference.

Not the same issues, just more issues. The MP mold lacks stability in the chest area, and has a head that is too far back making it look totally disjointed from the rest of its body. Also the transformation is very fiddly with the nosecone and results in a clumsy backpack. That was not changed from the original 2006 mold.

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:53 pm

Sad? no

Already have Six toys using that 1.0 deluxe seeker mold. Starscream,Thundercracker, Skywarp, Dirge, Thrust and Ramjet.

Never had any desires to buy any obsecure seeker characters for the 1.0 Seeker mold.

Think it's time HasTak created a Voyager new update toy for that 1984 Seeker design.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:34 pm

huh... i think im a little sad about this. but really, whats left besides redwing? maybe a proper rainmaker trio, purple air warriors/clones. s'bout all i can come up with.

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:34 pm

Well it's about time. That mold is almost 10 years old by now- I think it can be counted as a classic toy by now. It's served us well but it's time the poor old thing was finally retired.

I tell you what would be cool though- if they retooled the Classics Seeker molds slightly and released them as an unpainted, unsassembled model kit on runners- or even released it via ShapeWays. That way people could still get the Classics toy and do it in whatever colours they feel like.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:38 pm

Delta Magnus wrote:I tell you what would be cool though- if they retooled the Classics Seeker molds slightly and released them as an unpainted, unsassembled model kit on runners- or even released it via ShapeWays. That way people could still get the Classics toy and do it in whatever colours they feel like.

Kabaya beat you to that idea:

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:41 pm

Isn't the Kabaya version heavily simplified and not very poseable though? I was thinking the only modifications would be the removal of pins and subtle remolding to make it possible to assemble.

by **shockblast2** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:47 pm

They should have shot that lame horse years ago.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:50 pm

Delta Magnus wrote:Isn't the Kabaya version heavily simplified and not very poseable though? I was thinking the only modifications would be the removal of pins and subtle remolding to make it possible to assemble.

From what I can tell only the knees have been eliminated, which is pretty much standard fare with all Kabaya releases.

by **RiddlerJ** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:01 pm

No, they can't retire it. There's still a ton of seekers who need toys. :sad:

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Seeker_%28body-type%29

News Credits: 6 · by **Dr. Caelus** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:31 pm

I was both thrilled at the prospect of a new mold and dreading the $90 to $120 it would cost to replace the basic line-up, but I think I'm inclined not to worry about it. I'm a bigger fan of the IDW comics than anything, and the characters have diverged so much there that I don't know that I'm all that concerned about getting a set with a common mold.

I wish I could afford the Leader-Class Thundercracker and its inevitable repaints, or for preference the MP molds, as those would look good next to MP Soundwave, but that being off the table, I don't know that I care all that much anymore.

News Credits: 3 · by **Starsaber468** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:43 pm

Seriously finally the seeker molds are done but honestly subscription service why haven't you made a prowl bluestreak silverstreak using the skids/crosscut generations mold yet

News Credits: 3 · by **Starsaber468** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:46 pm

Seriously while looking ats ome comments poeple where complaining about teh fombiner wars having 5 robots t9 combine into 1 giant robot seriously don't youknow that combiners have been around since the orginal transformers >:-(

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:48 pm

Starsaber468 wrote:Seriously while looking ats ome comments poeple where complaining about teh fombiner wars having 5 robots t9 combine into 1 giant robot seriously don't youknow that combiners have been around since the orginal transformers >:-(

Wrong thread buddy. You could either go here or here.

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:56 pm

william-james88 wrote:Also the transformation is very fiddly with the nosecone and results in a clumsy backpack. That was not changed from the original 2006 mold.

You're doing it wrong. The back folds up very neatly if you do it the right way. Trust me.

News Credits: 6 · by **Metroplex79** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:06 pm

I'm sad to see this mold go, but it's probably because they're planning to charge the same amount of money for repainting existing smaller and thinner figures.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:31 pm

I reiterate what has been said before in this topic. Only the CLUB has given this statement. HASBRO and TAKARATOMY have not. THEY can still keep using it if they want to. It's only the CLUB that's putting the mold out to pasture.