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Autobot032 wrote: You don't need the plot of the film to see how stupid that subtitle is.
This is all a moot point, however, since Bay's redirect now says The Dark SIDE Of The Moon.
Which makes more sense, is equally cheesy, and more understandable. I have no idea how many people would be outright confused by such crapola.
Shadowman wrote:I will put forth the theory that it was the internet itself trying to punch him in the face.
Megatronsdemise666 wrote:and shockwave as the main villain doesn't sound good to me
even in G1 he wasnt a big character and really of no importance
Rodimus Prime wrote:Megatronsdemise666 wrote:and shockwave as the main villain doesn't sound good to me
even in G1 he wasnt a big character and really of no importance
Read some G1 comics.
NOBODY LOVES WHEELIE wrote:Here's my big question...what the hell happened to just tossing a number after a sequel? I mean was Transformers 2, and Transformers 3 really such an awful name?
Mechastrike wrote:don't HIT me.
Down_Shift wrote:That title sounds more like a novel title, somewhat like Reign of Starscream, Alliance, or Defiance. Not a movie adaptation, but still cannon in between.
Until Hasbro officially announces anything, I choose not to believe that this is the working title for the 3rd Transformers movie.
SlyTF1 wrote:
They are complex. You have to know exactly what the Allspark does, what the Well of Allsparks is, why The Fallen can only be killed by a Prime, and how Optimus and Megatron are brothers. Or it will have you thinking that Sam went to "robot heaven" and was resurrected by a spiritual robot.
They are intense. The first movie...was not as intense as it could have been. But ROTF kept me at the edge of my seat the whole damn time I was watching it! I never knew what was going to happen next! I expected Ironhide to die and Bumblebee to defeat The Fallen and Optimus to be killed at the very end of the movie. It still keeps me on the edge of my seat after over a year, watching it on a small laptop screen it still keeps me excited.
They are deep. I can tell yo're not a person that looks for everything in a movie. ROTF is deep but no one ever ses anything. I swear to hot dog piss there is somthing extremely deep in that movie. But I'm gonna see if any one can figure it out at all. Next time you watch the movie, pay attention to the backgrounds, certain dialogue, the locations, even the over all plot because all 3 of those things connect many times thruought the movie and no one even notices. And it may not have even been intentional, the important thing is is that this symbolism and connections are there.
They do explore the complexities and darknesses in the human spirit. It is really simple. You see somthing from space, you dont know what it is, the only logical thing to do is the blow it to hell. Thats how most people think.
SEXFIGHTER wrote:I know some people dug ROTF, I found the urge to self mutilate almost overwhelming, i wanted to throw up too. How DARE they put **** like that out there,
Burn wrote:SEXFIGHTER wrote:I know some people dug ROTF, I found the urge to self mutilate almost overwhelming, i wanted to throw up too. How DARE they put **** like that out there,
Go out and find a movie called Gabriel, watch it, then come back and tell me how bad ROTF was.
D-340 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:
They are complex. You have to know exactly what the Allspark does, what the Well of Allsparks is, why The Fallen can only be killed by a Prime, and how Optimus and Megatron are brothers. Or it will have you thinking that Sam went to "robot heaven" and was resurrected by a spiritual robot.
The movies, especially ROTF, never explains any of this. I still don't understand how and why only a Prime can kill the Fallen, yet Megatron can kill Optimus. So does that mean Megatron can kill the Fallen? That was never explained. Nor was it explained(in the movies)that Prime and Megs are brothers. Did Prime mean that metaphorically after Megs "death"(as in they are brothers cuz they are both Cybertronian), or that they are related? Never explained. The only thing we know of the Allspark, is that it turns mindless machines into sentient machines. Nothing is every explained on how the Transformers develop personalities, where their sparks come from, or even what a spark is in this continuity. Are sparks their souls? Their hearts? A random power source? If you know, enlighten me, cuz I haven't got a clue. And there is never a mention of any Well of Allsparks in the movies, unless I missed something.
They are intense. The first movie...was not as intense as it could have been. But ROTF kept me at the edge of my seat the whole damn time I was watching it! I never knew what was going to happen next! I expected Ironhide to die and Bumblebee to defeat The Fallen and Optimus to be killed at the very end of the movie. It still keeps me on the edge of my seat after over a year, watching it on a small laptop screen it still keeps me excited.
The only intensity I got out both films were the action scenes.
They are deep. I can tell yo're not a person that looks for everything in a movie. ROTF is deep but no one ever ses anything. I swear to hot dog piss there is somthing extremely deep in that movie. But I'm gonna see if any one can figure it out at all. Next time you watch the movie, pay attention to the backgrounds, certain dialogue, the locations, even the over all plot because all 3 of those things connect many times thruought the movie and no one even notices. And it may not have even been intentional, the important thing is is that this symbolism and connections are there.
I missing something here. Maybe you're reading way too much into ROTF, cuz it's about as deep as a shallow puddle. The only characterization in ROTF is really in the human characters, cuz hardly any of the TFs have any character at all. They just there because the movies are called Transformers. I'm sure if the writers could get away with it, the TFs would have no character at all. Hell, for the most part in ROTF they are just background any way, playing second fiddle to the absurd Sam/Mikeala love story. The only thing I really found complex in ROTF is how Devastator had wrecking ball testicles when not one Constructicon vehicle had wrecking balls.
They do explore the complexities and darknesses in the human spirit. It is really simple. You see somthing from space, you dont know what it is, the only logical thing to do is the blow it to hell. Thats how most people think.
Um, when and where does this happen? Cuz I saw none of this. Were we watching the same movie? Cuz the ROTF you're describing sounds incredible. The ROTF I saw however was none of this. The one I saw was a disjointed mess of a thin plot that had potential, random action scenes and explosions, crude, low brow, second rate teen comedy humor(did we really need to see Sam's mom getting high on pot brownies? Or how about two scenes dedicated to one of Sam's dogs "dominating" the other one? How about John Tutorro's thong clad butt?), and really, REALLY lame attempt at a love story that will now have absolutely nothing to do with the third film at all being Megan Fox is now no longer involved with the film franchise at all. It's a shame really, cuz ROTF had a ton of potential and capitalized on none of it. But hey, at least we got some killer toys out of it.
Call me a Bay hater, as far as ROTF is concerned, I am. The first movie was good, not great, but enjoyable. ROTF was not. Here's to hoping the next one is better, but with what little info we got so far, including it's ridiculous title(yeah it may tie into whatever thin plot they come up with, but imho it's a lame title, and I'm not liking the whole tying the Transformers into the space race either) all hope for me enjoying it is lost. The only idea of this I enjoy is that it will be the last movie of the series.
Burn wrote:SEXFIGHTER wrote:I know some people dug ROTF, I found the urge to self mutilate almost overwhelming, i wanted to throw up too. How DARE they put **** like that out there,
Go out and find a movie called Gabriel, watch it, then come back and tell me how bad ROTF was.
SlyTF1 wrote:D-340 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:
They are complex. You have to know exactly what the Allspark does, what the Well of Allsparks is, why The Fallen can only be killed by a Prime, and how Optimus and Megatron are brothers. Or it will have you thinking that Sam went to "robot heaven" and was resurrected by a spiritual robot.
The movies, especially ROTF, never explains any of this. I still don't understand how and why only a Prime can kill the Fallen, yet Megatron can kill Optimus. So does that mean Megatron can kill the Fallen? That was never explained. Nor was it explained(in the movies)that Prime and Megs are brothers. Did Prime mean that metaphorically after Megs "death"(as in they are brothers cuz they are both Cybertronian), or that they are related? Never explained. The only thing we know of the Allspark, is that it turns mindless machines into sentient machines. Nothing is every explained on how the Transformers develop personalities, where their sparks come from, or even what a spark is in this continuity. Are sparks their souls? Their hearts? A random power source? If you know, enlighten me, cuz I haven't got a clue. And there is never a mention of any Well of Allsparks in the movies, unless I missed something.
I said you have to know what they are. You have to know alot about Transformers before going into the movie. A spark is like their heart, which is how Jetfire ripped out his spark, and The Fallen's spark was crushed in Optimus's hands. The Well of Allsparks isnt mentioned in the movie, but like I said, you have to know about TFs before going into th movie. And The Fallen can only be killed by a Prime because Primes have a special essense, somthing that makes them Primes, maybe part of Primus's spark maybe. This is the thing about series of movies, you cant really call out a plothole until all of the movies have been released, because you cant expect everything to be explained in one movie, when its supposed to be a series.
D-340 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:D-340 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:
They are complex. You have to know exactly what the Allspark does, what the Well of Allsparks is, why The Fallen can only be killed by a Prime, and how Optimus and Megatron are brothers. Or it will have you thinking that Sam went to "robot heaven" and was resurrected by a spiritual robot.
The movies, especially ROTF, never explains any of this. I still don't understand how and why only a Prime can kill the Fallen, yet Megatron can kill Optimus. So does that mean Megatron can kill the Fallen? That was never explained. Nor was it explained(in the movies)that Prime and Megs are brothers. Did Prime mean that metaphorically after Megs "death"(as in they are brothers cuz they are both Cybertronian), or that they are related? Never explained. The only thing we know of the Allspark, is that it turns mindless machines into sentient machines. Nothing is every explained on how the Transformers develop personalities, where their sparks come from, or even what a spark is in this continuity. Are sparks their souls? Their hearts? A random power source? If you know, enlighten me, cuz I haven't got a clue. And there is never a mention of any Well of Allsparks in the movies, unless I missed something.
I said you have to know what they are. You have to know alot about Transformers before going into the movie. A spark is like their heart, which is how Jetfire ripped out his spark, and The Fallen's spark was crushed in Optimus's hands. The Well of Allsparks isnt mentioned in the movie, but like I said, you have to know about TFs before going into th movie. And The Fallen can only be killed by a Prime because Primes have a special essense, somthing that makes them Primes, maybe part of Primus's spark maybe. This is the thing about series of movies, you cant really call out a plothole until all of the movies have been released, because you cant expect everything to be explained in one movie, when its supposed to be a series.
Shoulda specified, for this(the film series) continuity. I've been a fan since G1 started back in 84, so yeah I know what they all are as far as other continuities. But in the movies, thus far(I'll give you that there's still one more comin', so maybe, MAYBE we'll get some kinda explanation) nothing has been explained.
And as far as only a Prime being able to kill a Prime(as Fallen was one), still doesn't explain how Megatron could kill Optimus in this continuity. Megatron isn't a Prime(according to the comics, before he rebelled, he was Lord High Protector(not sure about that title, but I'm pretty sure that's what it was) not a Prime. So, if only a Prime can kill a Prime, how does this work?
Sky-Quake wrote:I might have to see this Gabriel but I don't want to waste money on it when I could be putting that money towards TFs and a new copy of Fallout 3
NuclearConvoy wrote:Sky-Quake wrote:I might have to see this Gabriel but I don't want to waste money on it when I could be putting that money towards TFs and a new copy of Fallout 3
Who said anything about wasting my money?
Sky-Quake wrote:NuclearConvoy wrote:Sky-Quake wrote:I might have to see this Gabriel but I don't want to waste money on it when I could be putting that money towards TFs and a new copy of Fallout 3
Who said anything about wasting my money?
no one I was just saying that I don't want to rent a movie or buy it if it isn't worth the cash
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