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Dagon wrote:Fenrir Prime wrote:Dagon wrote:So, it didn't win any Oscars, so that just means that the Oscar doesn't mean anything anymore.
But, it could win some of these awards, but people don't like those awards, so then Razzies don;t mean anything.
AND, the opinions and criticisms of people who don't like the movies don't matter, because they didn't like the movies, but the opinions of people who don't acknowledge the Razzie as a legit award because they don't like the Razzies or the choice of films that win Razzies, those people are perfectly correct for dismissing a legit award?
"What you don't like doesn't matter because it doesn't satisfy my need for an explaination but I don't have to like anything I don't like and that's perfectly acceptable!" Lol seibertron.com, Lol.
While I can understand where you are coming from I don't think I could call the Razzies a legitimate award show since it just seems more like trolling on a grand scale. Some nominations are written in to look like jokes, like putting Nick Cage and who ever he is on screen with in his 3 2011 movies as a worst couple nomination. And like Bouncy X said they are lots of movies that came out that were way worse than any of the ones listed. I have to agree they just go after the bad movies that did well.
Ok, but I don't like baseball, but I recognize the Baseball Hall of Fame as a legit honor. Just because something I like doesn't win a prestigeous award does not devalue the award, and vice versa. "Oh, HUGO won the Oscar because of Scorsesi, that's the only reason.....Oscars don;t mean anything anyway..." A person not finding value in the award doesn't devalue the award.
Know how people have said for five years that Hasbro/Bay/All'a them don't care if fans don't like the movies because the movies aren't made for the fans?I suppose the Oscars/Razzies/Baseball HoF are organized on the same principle. Winning an Oscar means something to movie industry people. They don't NOT vote on HoF inductees because I don't care about baseball.
Just like Michael Bay doesn't care that someone didn't like his movie, I'm sure the Academy doesn't care that this website is amazed DOTM didn't win an Oscar. I just find it super cute that we can't not like the movies without being given a stern talking to, but it's fine to just write off an element that didn't like the movies becuase lol they don't know anything they're just old people who pander to the industry lol.
Vicalliose wrote:maybe the only way to get people to hate these films is to hammer it into their skulls repeatedly.
Shadowman wrote:I will put forth the theory that it was the internet itself trying to punch him in the face.
5150 Cruiser wrote:Vicalliose wrote:maybe the only way to get people to hate these films is to hammer it into their skulls repeatedly.
They've been trying that since 07' and you know what? Each movie does better and than the previous.![]()
Haters just can't accept that people really do like these movies. And no amount of "razzies" is going to change that.
Burn wrote:Rest easy fanboys, or grab your pitchforks if you're in the Bayhater camp, whatever works for you.
Adam Sandler cleans house.
No awards for Transformers in the Razzies. Move on.
Burn wrote:Rest easy fanboys, or grab your pitchforks if you're in the Bayhater camp, whatever works for you.
Adam Sandler cleans house.
No awards for Transformers in the Razzies. Move on.
Burn wrote:Rest easy fanboys, or grab your pitchforks if you're in the Bayhater camp, whatever works for you.
Adam Sandler cleans house.
No awards for Transformers in the Razzies. Move on.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:Burn wrote:Rest easy fanboys, or grab your pitchforks if you're in the Bayhater camp, whatever works for you.
Adam Sandler cleans house.
No awards for Transformers in the Razzies. Move on.
Jack and JIll is a rip off of Glen or Glenda in the same way Dark of the Moon is a ripoff of Bullit. They have something in common (A man in drag for the former, car chases for the latter) but that's where the similarities end.
Capt.Failure wrote:Shadowman wrote:Burn wrote:Rest easy fanboys, or grab your pitchforks if you're in the Bayhater camp, whatever works for you.
Adam Sandler cleans house.
No awards for Transformers in the Razzies. Move on.
Jack and JIll is a rip off of Glen or Glenda in the same way Dark of the Moon is a ripoff of Bullit. They have something in common (A man in drag for the former, car chases for the latter) but that's where the similarities end.
Why did you have to bring up Ed Wood? Now I have to watch Plan 9 from Outer Space again. Damn you, Shadowman.![]()
On the bright side it's at least an unintentionally funny film.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:Capt.Failure wrote:Shadowman wrote:Burn wrote:Rest easy fanboys, or grab your pitchforks if you're in the Bayhater camp, whatever works for you.
Adam Sandler cleans house.
No awards for Transformers in the Razzies. Move on.
Jack and JIll is a rip off of Glen or Glenda in the same way Dark of the Moon is a ripoff of Bullit. They have something in common (A man in drag for the former, car chases for the latter) but that's where the similarities end.
Why did you have to bring up Ed Wood? Now I have to watch Plan 9 from Outer Space again. Damn you, Shadowman.![]()
On the bright side it's at least an unintentionally funny film.
I didn't bring up Ed Wood, they did.
It's like, I'm sure it's a bad movie deserving each and every one of those "awards," but if they're going to call it a ripoff of something, they should probably do it in a way that makes it look like they actually knew what either movie was about.
Capt.Failure wrote:You're trusting modern critics to know anything about film. That's your problem.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:The guys who run the razzies, though...
Shadowman wrote:Capt.Failure wrote:You're trusting modern critics to know anything about film. That's your problem.
I trust professional critics to know anything about film. I may not always agree with them but they do know what they're talking about.
The guys who run the razzies, though...
Capt.Failure wrote:Shadowman wrote:Capt.Failure wrote:You're trusting modern critics to know anything about film. That's your problem.
I trust professional critics to know anything about film. I may not always agree with them but they do know what they're talking about.
The guys who run the razzies, though...
Professional means trained to do their job. Being good at it is another thing. One does not imply the other.
Capt.Failure wrote:From what I've seen, few professional critics are good at their job.
Capt.Failure wrote:Rotten Tomatoes has seen to that with it's willful suppression of individual opinion among critics combined with the lack of respect they have for their readers.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Uh, actually it does. Amateur means you're untrained and unskilled. Professional means you've had training, which develops and teaches skill, and you're good enough to be paid to do it.
Such as? Also, do you even know the skills required to be a good critic?
Rotten Tomatoes isn't a review site, it is a review aggregate site. They collect individual reviews and display them all, and give a work a rating based on how positive and negative the reviews are.
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