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News Credits: 18 · by **Immortal Starscream** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:38 am

the only one for me that is a hard pass (at least for now) is the netflix leader box. Ultra magnus was a cool paintjob and all, but we knew it was at least ultra magnus. most people wanted it for the "spoilers" which just ended up being some lines from the show printed on the box in cybertronian. some people were very let down by this.

To do the same thing again, only to not even know whats in the box just puts a sour taste in my mouth. I was a fan of blind box toys untill they started getting expensive, which I was adamantly against. so a $60 blind box? All kinds of NO.

though I am nagged by the notion of "what's in the box?" I'm sure it's a con.

the walmart listing does have some interesting tidbits. I am at work so I couldnt watch the livestream, so IDK if these were brought up there, but heres what walmart says about the contents:

Includes: 2 figures, compound, 9 accessories, and instructions.
Figure scale: 7 inches
Ages 8 and up
Warning: Choking Hazard - Small parts. Not for children under 3 years.
CONTAINS WHEAT.
COMPOUND NET WT. 5 OZ (142g)
Not intended to be eaten.
Non-toxic. Conforms to ASTM D-4236.

by **shocksound96** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:42 am

i hope that Ironhide gets a single release.

News Credits: 56 · by **o.supreme** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:43 am

I posted earlier, I'm guessing the Leader Box is Shockwave....

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:46 am

o.supreme wrote:I posted earlier, I'm guessing the Leader Box is Shockwave....

That would be horrible.

News Credits: 18 · by **Immortal Starscream** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:46 am

o.supreme wrote:I posted earlier, I'm guessing the Leader Box is Shockwave....

seems plausible given the "compound" inclusion. that would likely make 5 of the 9 accessories his space ship add-on parts I'm guessing

News Credits: 56 · by **o.supreme** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:47 am

Sabrblade wrote:
o.supreme wrote:I posted earlier, I'm guessing the Leader Box is Shockwave....
That would be horrible.

Yes, but I don't see many other options...Has Astrotrain been seen in any of the Netflix Trailers? Also Ultra Magnus was a pretty huge letdown as well, so there is precedent.

Or...this could yet be Another Ultra Magnus deco, with the cape this time, and all the stuff the fans said was missing from the previous one :lol:

(Decepticon Allegiance)

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:50 am

-Kanrabat- wrote:As expected, nothing at Walmart.CA.

As for Amazon.CA, only the coneheads duo is there.

They are both there on amazon
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... now/45020/

News Credits: 18 · by **Immortal Starscream** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:51 am

o.supreme wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
o.supreme wrote:I posted earlier, I'm guessing the Leader Box is Shockwave....
That would be horrible.

Yes, but I don't see many other options...Has Astrotrain been seen in any of the Netflix Trailers? Also Ultra Magnus was a pretty huge letdown as well, so there is precedent.

Or...this could yet be Another Ultra Magnus deco, with the cape this time, and all the stuff the fans said was missing from the previous one (Decepticon Allegiance)

there is a wrench in the shockwave theory now. according to the walmart listing:

CLASSIC TRANSFORMERS CONVERSION: This toy converts to vehicle mode in 34 steps, the included Battle Masters figure converts to weapon mode in 6 steps

shockwave's conversion is 28 steps.

trying to find who has 34 steps. not doubledealer, ultra magnus comes close if you add up 2 of the modes on his box, but not really

News Credits: 56 · by **o.supreme** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:56 am

Immortal Starscream wrote: there is a wrench in the shockwave theory now. according to the walmart listing:

CLASSIC TRANSFORMERS CONVERSION: This toy converts to vehicle mode in 34 steps, the included Battle Masters figure converts to weapon mode in 6 steps

shockwave's conversion is 28 steps.

I just did a quick check and there is no Leader in Siege or Earthrise currently that has 34 steps. Closest is Doubledealer with 37

News Credits: 18 · by **Immortal Starscream** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:58 am

o.supreme wrote:
Immortal Starscream wrote: there is a wrench in the shockwave theory now. according to the walmart listing:

CLASSIC TRANSFORMERS CONVERSION: This toy converts to vehicle mode in 34 steps, the included Battle Masters figure converts to weapon mode in 6 steps

shockwave's conversion is 28 steps.

I just did a quick check and there is no Leader in Siege or Earthrise currently that has 34 steps. Closest is Doubledealer with 37

thats what I came up with too. theres got to be something else they are adding then, otherwise this would indicate a new mold. now WAY this wouldn't just be a repaint though. hasbro wouldn't drop a new leader figure without some fanfare now... would they?

by **Brutal brawl** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:00 pm

I have a feeling the leader class in the spoiler box is going to be shockwave if i were to choose out of the two possible leader classes

News Credits: 56 · by **o.supreme** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:01 pm

Immortal Starscream wrote:
thats what I came up with too. theres got to be something else they are adding then, otherwise this would indicate a new mold. now WAY this wouldn't just be a repaint though. hasbro wouldn't drop a new leader figure without some fanfare now... would they?

Only possibility is *if* there is a new Leader slated for wave 4 of ER, (which will presumably be revealed before this figure's release in October), and this is it's redeco.

The only other thing may be to compre Siege UM packaging with the Netflix UM packaging and see if their "Transformation steps" are the same or not.

Still, it would be extremely unusual to have Netflix deco of a new Leader, before its standard release. I mean this isn't a SDCC Throne of the Primes after all...

News Credits: 10 · by **sol magnus** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:03 pm

How many steps is Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime?

by **LunarBolt1984** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:04 pm

Right off the hop, when I saw Netflix Soundwave, I was mad. It's a 50/50 split between Hasbro and myself. I got SEIGE Soundwave because I thought that he was the best verion we were going to get, and you could get a pretty decent fan-mode Cybertronian boombox out of him. Really regretting buy SEIGE Soundwave now. (But, hey, who could have predicted that Hasbro would actually give us something like this?)

Other than that, I hope Ironhide gets a single release, as I can live with his retool. It is is MUCH better than the Combiner Wars mold that I have!

Super happy that we're finally getting a G1, VW Beetle Bumblebee! The kibble isn't terrible, but I'm glad that I didn't pick up the Bumblebee movie version. Bee will scale very nicely and look great with the rest of my Generations figures.

News Credits: 56 · by **o.supreme** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:05 pm

sol magnus wrote:How many steps is Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime?

Not 34...

News Credits: 10 · by **sol magnus** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:15 pm

13+21=34

News Credits: 2 · by **Tigerhawk7109** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:16 pm

I’ll take either Siege or ER Soundwave at this point, both look badass. Just a shame that one isn’t up for a good price on Amazon, and the other isn’t even on Amazon at all.

:BH-PREDACON:

News Credits: 18 · by **leokearon** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:19 pm

o.supreme wrote:
sol magnus wrote:How many steps is Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime?

Not 34...

He does have a 21 + 13 which does equal 34 but I don't have the toy so I don't know what steps they referto

by **Gigabolt22** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:19 pm

The spoiler box has to be some repaint of earthrise Optimus

News Credits: 650 · by **ScottyP** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:25 pm

Major props for the adjustment on Rotorstorm's head :APPLAUSE:

News Credits: 10 · by **sol magnus** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:27 pm

ScottyP wrote:Major props for the adjustment on Rotorstorm's head

It almost seems like they set all the complainers up.

News Credits: 18 · by **leokearon** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:29 pm

The spoiler box could be an Ultra Magnus retool/redeco

News Credits: 18 · by **Immortal Starscream** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:51 pm

leokearon wrote:The spoiler box could be an Ultra Magnus retool/redeco

given the much darker colors of the box, and the purple "glowing" artwork seems more likely to be a decepticon. I think a decepticon repaint of UM, though not impossible, would really piss collectors off. seems unlikely for hasbro to go that malicious. not impossible, but not too likely.

according to the walmart listing for ultra magnus:
CLASSIC TRANSFORMERS CONVERSION: This Ultra Magnus toy converts to armored truck mode in 26 steps, the included Battlefield Rung converts to weapon mode in 4 steps. Includes 12 accessories

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Transformers-War-for-Cybertron-Series-Spoiler-Pack/264962216

by **YoungPrime** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:54 pm

I might buy Elita-1 who I'll repurpose as Areal since Elita should be a VOYAGER! If that new Soundwave's eyes were red instead of yellow again it would've been more tempting but him and the rest of those NETFLIX figures are a pass.

Other than the ER Seekers I'm not buying another character that I already bought last year via SIEGE.

News Credits: 18 · by **Immortal Starscream** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:02 pm

just realized the new spiler box image on walmart does flash a decepticon symbol on top, so decepticon confirmed. magnus had an autobot on top. and magnus himself on the side.

a thought has occurred to me. we do have a lot of hints pointing to a specific g1 character getting a new toy (despite having one recently that had mixed feelings atached toit) between now and the kingdom line. Would make sense for him to be a decepticon leader class, and while earthrise would make more sense for him, we do basically now have earthrise figs in the siege netflix line. And since he hasnt been anounced yet, as previously stated it would make sense to keep him secret untill actually being announced in the main line.

"Megatron? Is that you?"

there's a hint!