The Energon Pub

[shockblast2]

So does the inclusion of comics mean that the collectors cards are gone?

Yes. The Deluxes with cards are the international versions while the Deluxes with comics are the U.S. versions.

That sucks. I would rather have the comics. Maybe I should return mine with the cards when I see the comic ones at retail?

[Sabrblade]

Because Wildrider doesn't exist in the comics.

This statement makes it sound like Wildrider's never been in the comics, which isn't true, since he has been in them before.

[shockblast2]

Because Wildrider doesn't exist in the comics.

This statement makes it sound like Wildrider's never been in the comics, which isn't true, since he has been in them before.

Like when? I haven't seen it in the last few years.

Did he get smoked like Slingshot?

[shockblast2]

I just looked it up and it appears he did make a few appearances, but just randomly disappeared from the comics. Presumably dead.

So I guess I should have said "no longer" exists. Maybe its carcass will show up soon, like Slingshot.

[King Kuuga]

Because Wildrider doesn't exist in the comics.

This statement makes it sound like Wildrider's never been in the comics, which isn't true, since he has been in them before.

Like when? I haven't seen it in the last few years.

Did he get smoked like Slingshot?

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Wildrider_(G1)#IDW_Generation_1_continuity
He's still around, he just hasn't done anything noteworthy in a while.

[shockblast2]

Because Wildrider doesn't exist in the comics.

This statement makes it sound like Wildrider's never been in the comics, which isn't true, since he has been in them before.

Like when? I haven't seen it in the last few years.

Did he get smoked like Slingshot?

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Wildrider_(G1)#IDW_Generation_1_continuity
He's still around, he just hasn't done anything noteworthy in a while.

I don't see any evidence that it is still around. I think it is dead, and the fact that it has been replaced pretty much backs that up. Just waiting for the carcass to show up randomly like with Sling shot.

[joevill]

of course....

[zatara1701]

You know, I was digging the whole comics in package thing...

UNTILL I opened my Rattrap a couple weeks ago... Dang comic in his had NO RATTRAP IN IT AT ALL The comic was totally unrelated to him, not even one panel.

Sooooo, now I am just like card? Comic? Whatever... Just give me my dang toy.

[Agamemnon]

Heh, looks like I will have a set of figures to display uncombined...

[Gallifreyan Autobot]

Drag strip is a nice figure

I noticed the head for some reason looks like the one from TFA wild-rider

And also the my version came with the card but it was stated above that the US versions came with a comic book

Maybe the Walmart closest to me had the wrong batch

[SkyWarpsGhost]

I got CW wave 2 over the weekend, boy combined Menasor really is a mess. Blackjack refuses to stay on his chest, I had to Blu-Tak it on.

Very nice as individuals tho. Think this will be my first combiner I will display not combined

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Drag strip is a nice figure

I noticed the head for some reason looks like the one from TFA wild-rider

And also the my version came with the card but it was stated above that the US versions came with a comic book

Maybe the Walmart closest to me had the wrong batch

The re-releases in Wave 2 come with the comics.

[Agamemnon]

Drag strip is a nice figure

I noticed the head for some reason looks like the one from TFA wild-rider

And also the my version came with the card but it was stated above that the US versions came with a comic book

Maybe the Walmart closest to me had the wrong batch

Naw, the first ones were the international release because the CW comics were not ready. It's been discussed a lot in this thread, if you want to take a gander back through the pages. I don't blame you if you don't.

[SkyWarpt]

Kinda glad I passed on Menasaur. I wasn't impressed with Motormaster, that's a lot of grey plastic.

[Coptur]

[/quote]
No, I mind. I like the Powerglide we got, Blackjack is a new character(somewhat)as I like new characters, and Slingshot is DEAD. You wouldn't have the "original" lineup for Menasor by making Deadend as a legends. Because Wildrider doesn't exist in the comics.[/quote]


HOLD IT people no where in the IDW comic has it said 'Slingshot is Dead'

Wheeljack further points out that Slingshot seems beyond saving

This doesn't mean he's dead this means he's in a very critical condition

[Sabrblade]

You know, I was digging the whole comics in package thing...

UNTILL I opened my Rattrap a couple weeks ago... Dang comic in his had NO RATTRAP IN IT AT ALL The comic was totally unrelated to him, not even one panel.

Sooooo, now I am just like card? Comic? Whatever... Just give me my dang toy.

It is presumed that Rattrap and Skywarp were inadvertently given each other's comics due to a reshuffling of the toyline, since Skywarp's comic showcases Rattrap while Rattrap's comic showcases Skywarp.

Plus, the comic included with Rattrap had its pages greatly out of order.

[RhA]

Well, I just got my Motormaster in the mail and I love him. Finally a decent Motormaster! And that Menasor-head looks awesome, pictures did not do it justice.

[Megatron Wolf]

well that sucks, id rather have the comics than the stupid cards. Oh well i only paid $11 for each of em so its not a total lose. I just dont understand why they are reissuing these already, they just started hitting mass retail. When these come out there are going to be both versions on the shelves confusing people & taking up space. Id rather see arcee & chromia get another release.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

well that sucks, id rather have the comics than the stupid cards. Oh well i only paid $11 for each of em so its not a total lose. I just dont understand why they are reissuing these already, they just started hitting mass retail. When these come out there are going to be both versions on the shelves confusing people & taking up space. Id rather see arcee & chromia get another release.

Because the first US releases had the international variants by mistake, due to production timing issues. They're now rectifying that mistake with the 2nd wave, releasing the first wave as intended with the comics.

[albnok]

well that sucks, id rather have the comics than the stupid cards. Oh well i only paid $11 for each of em so its not a total lose. I just dont understand why they are reissuing these already, they just started hitting mass retail. When these come out there are going to be both versions on the shelves confusing people & taking up space. Id rather see arcee & chromia get another release.

Because the first US releases had the international variants by mistake, due to production timing errors. They're now rectifying that mistake with the 2nd wave, releasing the first wave as intended with the comics.

Wait I thought the first wave didn't have comics because the comics weren't ready, as opposed to because it's an international variant? It would suck to think that I (in Malaysia) won't get to see a reissue of the first wave without comics.

I've already bought all the first wave deluxes so I won't get it again just for the comics, but it's still a bummer.

[william-james88]

well that sucks, id rather have the comics than the stupid cards. Oh well i only paid $11 for each of em so its not a total lose. I just dont understand why they are reissuing these already, they just started hitting mass retail. When these come out there are going to be both versions on the shelves confusing people & taking up space. Id rather see arcee & chromia get another release.

Because the first US releases had the international variants by mistake, due to production timing errors. They're now rectifying that mistake with the 2nd wave, releasing the first wave as intended with the comics.

Wait I thought the first wave didn't have comics because the comics weren't ready, as opposed to because it's an international variant? It would suck to think that I (in Malaysia) won't get to see a reissue of the first wave without comics.

I've already bought all the first wave deluxes so I won't get it again just for the comics, but it's still a bummer.

Those two reasons are not mutually exclusive (is that the right wording?).

The comics werent available yet so the first wave didnt have any distinguishing differences between the english release and international release. But now, there are comics so not only will there be a distinction in wave 2, but now any rerelease of wave one will have 2 distinct releases: one English and one International. If Malaysia didnt get the comics in the past generations lines, it wont get them now (Hong Kong did and thus can get the rereleased versions with the comics). Canada never got the comics and still wont.

It's not that complicated.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

well that sucks, id rather have the comics than the stupid cards. Oh well i only paid $11 for each of em so its not a total lose. I just dont understand why they are reissuing these already, they just started hitting mass retail. When these come out there are going to be both versions on the shelves confusing people & taking up space. Id rather see arcee & chromia get another release.

Because the first US releases had the international variants by mistake, due to production timing errors. They're now rectifying that mistake with the 2nd wave, releasing the first wave as intended with the comics.

Wait I thought the first wave didn't have comics because the comics weren't ready, as opposed to because it's an international variant? It would suck to think that I (in Malaysia) won't get to see a reissue of the first wave without comics.

I've already bought all the first wave deluxes so I won't get it again just for the comics, but it's still a bummer.

Like I said "production timing issues", meaning some parts weren't finished in time or even produced in the wrong order (International first instead of US). There's a message about that a few pages back.

[albnok]

well that sucks, id rather have the comics than the stupid cards. Oh well i only paid $11 for each of em so its not a total lose. I just dont understand why they are reissuing these already, they just started hitting mass retail. When these come out there are going to be both versions on the shelves confusing people & taking up space. Id rather see arcee & chromia get another release.

Because the first US releases had the international variants by mistake, due to production timing errors. They're now rectifying that mistake with the 2nd wave, releasing the first wave as intended with the comics.

Wait I thought the first wave didn't have comics because the comics weren't ready, as opposed to because it's an international variant? It would suck to think that I (in Malaysia) won't get to see a reissue of the first wave without comics.

I've already bought all the first wave deluxes so I won't get it again just for the comics, but it's still a bummer.

Those two reasons are not mutually exclusive (is that the right wording?).

The comics werent available yet so the first wave didnt have any distinguishing differences between the english release and international release. But now, there are comics so not only will there be a distinction in wave 2, but now any rerelease of wave one will have 2 distinct releases: one English and one International. If Malaysia didnt get the comics in the past generations lines, it wont get them now (Hong Kong did and thus can get the rereleased versions with the comics). Canada never got the comics and still wont.

It's not that complicated.

Okay just one more - what's the difference between English/US release and international release?

Malaysia got the comics in the previous Generations lines. So does the presence of a comic imply English/US release, or is it:

English/US release with comics
International release with comics (Hong Kong, Malaysia, Singapore)
International release without comics (Canada)

[william-james88]

I've already bought all the first wave deluxes so I won't get it again just for the comics, but it's still a bummer.

Those two reasons are not mutually exclusive (is that the right wording?).

The comics werent available yet so the first wave didnt have any distinguishing differences between the english release and international release. But now, there are comics so not only will there be a distinction in wave 2, but now any rerelease of wave one will have 2 distinct releases: one English and one International. If Malaysia didnt get the comics in the past generations lines, it wont get them now (Hong Kong did and thus can get the rereleased versions with the comics). Canada never got the comics and still wont.

It's not that complicated.

Okay just one more - what's the difference between English/US release and international release?

Malaysia got the comics in the previous Generations lines. So does the presence of a comic imply English/US release, or is it:

English/US release with comics
International release with comics (Hong Kong, Malaysia, Singapore)
International release without comics (Canada)

English release does not need to have any other language than english on the box or contents (ie comics). International release has everything translated. That's it, the only 2 options. Some countries' laws dont care if their language isnt on the box or contents and will still sell the English version (usually with a sticker saying "be careful small parts" in whatever their language is). But other countries do.

If Malaysia got the comics before (just like Hong Kong, Australia, and Singapore)then they will get these comics. You guys get the same product as the states, your laws are not as restrictive.

[Va'al]

I've already bought all the first wave deluxes so I won't get it again just for the comics, but it's still a bummer.

Those two reasons are not mutually exclusive (is that the right wording?).

The comics werent available yet so the first wave didnt have any distinguishing differences between the english release and international release. But now, there are comics so not only will there be a distinction in wave 2, but now any rerelease of wave one will have 2 distinct releases: one English and one International. If Malaysia didnt get the comics in the past generations lines, it wont get them now (Hong Kong did and thus can get the rereleased versions with the comics). Canada never got the comics and still wont.

It's not that complicated.

Okay just one more - what's the difference between English/US release and international release?

Malaysia got the comics in the previous Generations lines. So does the presence of a comic imply English/US release, or is it:

English/US release with comics
International release with comics (Hong Kong, Malaysia, Singapore)
International release without comics (Canada)

English release does not need to have any other language than english on the box or contents (ie comics). International release has everything translated. That's it, the only 2 options. Some countries' laws dont care if their language isnt on the box or contents and will still sell the English version (usually with a sticker saying "be careful small parts" in whatever their language is). But other countries do.

If Malaysia got the comics before (just like Hong Kong, Australia, and Singapore)then they will get these comics. You guys get the same product as the states, your laws are not as restrictive.

US release, not English. UK and Australia (and other Anglophone countries) get the international version.