The Energon Pub

by **Gearslide** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:41 am

Interestingly enough,

The combiner head isn't included in the prototype.

Normally you'd see the antennae poking out of just under Silverbolt's/Scattorshot's chest, but there's just empty holes there.

If the head was just a straight-up repaint of Superion, I don't see why it would be excluded from the Prototype. Just some food for thought.

News Credits: 2 · by **Crosscheck** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:55 am

Gearslide wrote:Interestingly enough,

The combiner head isn't included in the prototype.

Normally you'd see the antennae poking out of just under Silverbolt's/Scattorshot's chest, but there's just empty holes there.

If the head was just a straight-up repaint of Superion, I don't see why it would be excluded from the Prototype. Just some food for thought.

From the figures shown at Botcon, the combiner head IS just a straight up recolor of Superion's head. And by recolor I mean...not changed at all.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:07 am

Crosscheck wrote:
Gearslide wrote:Interestingly enough,

The combiner head isn't included in the prototype.

Normally you'd see the antennae poking out of just under Silverbolt's/Scattorshot's chest, but there's just empty holes there.

If the head was just a straight-up repaint of Superion, I don't see why it would be excluded from the Prototype. Just some food for thought.

From the figures shown at Botcon, the combiner head IS just a straight up recolor of Superion's head. And by recolor I mean...not changed at all.

Here's hoping then that they HAVE changed the combiner head and just haven't updated the cover tab to close in the antennae holes.

News Credits: 2 · by **Crosscheck** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:15 am

Burn wrote:
Crosscheck wrote:
Gearslide wrote:Interestingly enough,

The combiner head isn't included in the prototype.

Normally you'd see the antennae poking out of just under Silverbolt's/Scattorshot's chest, but there's just empty holes there.

If the head was just a straight-up repaint of Superion, I don't see why it would be excluded from the Prototype. Just some food for thought.

From the figures shown at Botcon, the combiner head IS just a straight up recolor of Superion's head. And by recolor I mean...not changed at all.

Here's hoping then that they HAVE changed the combiner head and just haven't updated the cover tab to close in the antennae holes.

One can only hope. It would bring his parts changed to six in an era of complete reshells. >:oP

by **Gearslide** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:45 am

Crosscheck wrote:
Gearslide wrote:Interestingly enough,

The combiner head isn't included in the prototype.

Normally you'd see the antennae poking out of just under Silverbolt's/Scattorshot's chest, but there's just empty holes there.

If the head was just a straight-up repaint of Superion, I don't see why it would be excluded from the Prototype. Just some food for thought.

From the figures shown at Botcon, the combiner head IS just a straight up recolor of Superion's head. And by recolor I mean...not changed at all.

Well, no. The head shown at Botcon wasn't even a recolor. It was just Superion's head. I said it then and I'll say it now: the head shown at Botcon was a placeholder because they hadn't designed an actual Computron/Betatron head yet.

by **Radioactivepanda** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:25 am

My issue with this is not that he only has 7 new parts (some of them halves), it's that 6 of them are only visible in vehicle mode, and none of them appear in combined mode. Even assuming they're sculpting a new combiner head, that still leaves the combined mode as an almost exact copy of Superion.

Cyclonus differs from Silverbolt by at least 19 mold pieces, and I'm sure they're figuring he's more popular and worth more tooling costs, but they really should at least make 2 more parts to give Betatron/Computron a different chestpiece.

News Credits: 13 · by **steals_your_goats** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:34 am

Gearslide wrote:
Crosscheck wrote:
Gearslide wrote:Interestingly enough,

The combiner head isn't included in the prototype.

Normally you'd see the antennae poking out of just under Silverbolt's/Scattorshot's chest, but there's just empty holes there.

If the head was just a straight-up repaint of Superion, I don't see why it would be excluded from the Prototype. Just some food for thought.

From the figures shown at Botcon, the combiner head IS just a straight up recolor of Superion's head. And by recolor I mean...not changed at all.

Well, no. The head shown at Botcon wasn't even a recolor. It was just Superion's head. I said it then and I'll say it now: the head shown at Botcon was a placeholder because they hadn't designed an actual Computron/Betatron head yet.

This right here. I think many people just jump to conclusions way too quickly when it comes to things like this

News Credits: 19 · by **Stuartmaximus** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:07 am

Va'al wrote:Fellow Seibertron.com member fenrir72 has been keeping an eye on a regular news source, Hong Kong-based fan Stanley Cheung, and spotted two new prototype images after yesterday's Combiner Wars Combaticons: upcoming Voyager Scattershot! Check out below how the figure will differ from previous mold Silverbolt, refresh your memory on its almost finalised look for Betatron's torso and let us know what you think in the Energon Pub.

Wonder if you can still turn him into his second alt mode?(laser canon)

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:09 am

Stuartmaximus wrote:
Va'al wrote:Fellow Seibertron.com member fenrir72 has been keeping an eye on a regular news source, Hong Kong-based fan Stanley Cheung, and spotted two new prototype images after yesterday's Combiner Wars Combaticons: upcoming Voyager Scattershot! Check out below how the figure will differ from previous mold Silverbolt, refresh your memory on its almost finalised look for Betatron's torso and let us know what you think in the Energon Pub.

Wonder if you can still turn him into his second alt mode?(laser canon)

He almost resembles WFC Megatron's alt mode...

by **Shuttershock** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:14 am

Stuartmaximus wrote:
Va'al wrote:Fellow Seibertron.com member fenrir72 has been keeping an eye on a regular news source, Hong Kong-based fan Stanley Cheung, and spotted two new prototype images after yesterday's Combiner Wars Combaticons: upcoming Voyager Scattershot! Check out below how the figure will differ from previous mold Silverbolt, refresh your memory on its almost finalised look for Betatron's torso and let us know what you think in the Energon Pub.

Wonder if you can still turn him into his second alt mode?(laser canon)

"But it's the pelvic THRU-USTS that really drive us in-SA-A-A-A-ANE..."

News Credits: 3 · by **Shockwave7** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:51 am

Ugh - pass....

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:58 am

Gearslide wrote:
Crosscheck wrote:
Gearslide wrote:Interestingly enough,

The combiner head isn't included in the prototype.

Normally you'd see the antennae poking out of just under Silverbolt's/Scattorshot's chest, but there's just empty holes there.

If the head was just a straight-up repaint of Superion, I don't see why it would be excluded from the Prototype. Just some food for thought.

From the figures shown at Botcon, the combiner head IS just a straight up recolor of Superion's head. And by recolor I mean...not changed at all.

Well, no. The head shown at Botcon wasn't even a recolor. It was just Superion's head. I said it then and I'll say it now: the head shown at Botcon was a placeholder because they hadn't designed an actual Computron/Betatron head yet.

Not sure about that. It seemed to be a slight recolour with black being under his eyes instead of silver paint, the antennas are more orange as well:

You guys can hope all you want, I will just stick to reality that a toy coming out end 2015/beginning 2016 was actually already finished. Do you guys really think Hasbro would not do this?

News Credits: 13 · by **steals_your_goats** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:05 am

this is the official product image released by Hasbro, you can clearly see that the colors are quite different than the mock up we saw at comic con.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:07 am

That is a 3d rendering. There are many instances of colours not pannig out that way. It isnt an official pic of the actual physical toy. Look man, I am not looking to argue, but I am really encouraging you do not get your hopes up.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:30 am

william-james88 wrote:
Gearslide wrote:
Crosscheck wrote:
Gearslide wrote:Interestingly enough,

The combiner head isn't included in the prototype.

Normally you'd see the antennae poking out of just under Silverbolt's/Scattorshot's chest, but there's just empty holes there.

If the head was just a straight-up repaint of Superion, I don't see why it would be excluded from the Prototype. Just some food for thought.

From the figures shown at Botcon, the combiner head IS just a straight up recolor of Superion's head. And by recolor I mean...not changed at all.

Well, no. The head shown at Botcon wasn't even a recolor. It was just Superion's head. I said it then and I'll say it now: the head shown at Botcon was a placeholder because they hadn't designed an actual Computron/Betatron head yet.

Not sure about that. It seemed to be a slight recolour with black being under his eyes instead of silver paint, the antennas are more orange as well:

You guys can hope all you want, I will just stick to reality that a toy coming out end 2015/beginning 2016 was actually already finished. Do you guys really think Hasbro would not do this?

New head new head pleeeeeeeeeeeaaasseeee!

News Credits: 3595 · by **Seibertron** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:31 am

william-james88 wrote:That is a 3d rendering. There are many instances of colours not pannig out that way. It isnt an official pic of the actual physical toy. Look man, I am not looking to argue, but I am really encouraging you do not get your hopes up.

Hasbro said a few things at SDCC that continues to give me hope that we're getting a new head on Computron and that we'll be getting the rest of the Technobots.

by **Railbomb** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:47 am

I hate to say it but it makes sense that they're reusing Superion's head. They already had near identical heads already. I would have preferred it if they would have redone it to have a mouth but more importantly I really wish they would have redone the chest area on the combined mode. While they can get away with using the same head (hopefully in a different color) Superion and Computron do NOT have similar looking chest.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:05 am

Seibertron wrote:
william-james88 wrote:That is a 3d rendering. There are many instances of colours not pannig out that way. It isnt an official pic of the actual physical toy. Look man, I am not looking to argue, but I am really encouraging you do not get your hopes up.

Hasbro said a few things at SDCC that continues to give me hope that we're getting a new head on Computron and that we'll be getting the rest of the Technobots.

Exactly, CW has only re-used 3 heads, combiner and regular, and that was a/b and vortex, o/p and battle core, and as of now q/s and blast off; even the lazy o/p had a new bot mode head. So out of a year and a halfs worth of figures there've been three re-hashed heads, so logic dictates that in all likelyhood we will get a new head for computron.

Plus the figure in display definitely looked like a prototype, so there's that.

News Credits: 3595 · by **Seibertron** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:09 am

Hellscream9999 wrote:Plus the figure in display definitely looked like a prototype, so there's that.

I can't recall word-for-word what Hasbro said to me, but they alluded to his name as Betatron implied that there was more to come and that this was just a "beta" version of this toy. They said a lot of tongue-in-cheek comments and wouldn't give straight answers that made me believe that we'll be getting something better later down the road. Plus I know they read a lot of the comments on our forums so I've got my fingers crossed that they'll do us right by Computron. I'm assuming we'll know more next month at NYCC.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:14 am

Seibertron wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:Plus the figure in display definitely looked like a prototype, so there's that.

I can't recall word-for-word what Hasbro said to me, but they alluded to his name as Betatron implied that there was more to come and that this was just a "beta" version of this toy. They said a lot of tongue-in-cheek comments and wouldn't give straight answers that made me believe that we'll be getting something better later down the road. Plus I know they read a lot of the comments on our forums so I've got my fingers crossed that they'll do us right by Computron. I'm assuming we'll know more next month at NYCC.

Wouldnt that be revealing a bit too much for next year? For the generations line, we didnt know more beyond the first half of the year before the nuremberg toy fair. However, this time last year, we had a much better idea of what was in store for RID. We currently have no indication of anything coming out for that line in 2016 aside from some lingering unused designs in the app and some computer listings.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:15 am

Seibertron wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:Plus the figure in display definitely looked like a prototype, so there's that.

I can't recall word-for-word what Hasbro said to me, but they alluded to his name as Betatron implied that there was more to come and that this was just a "beta" version of this toy. They said a lot of tongue-in-cheek comments and wouldn't give straight answers that made me believe that we'll be getting something better later down the road. Plus I know they read a lot of the comments on our forums so I've got my fingers crossed that they'll do us right by Computron. I'm assuming we'll know more next month at NYCC.

Well they are the last vehicle group (that isn't original), so, despite the heavy remolding that they would need to have done right by us, it wouldn't make a lot of sense to skip them for a third set of '84

or something like that.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:17 am

Hellscream9999 wrote:
Seibertron wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:Plus the figure in display definitely looked like a prototype, so there's that.

I can't recall word-for-word what Hasbro said to me, but they alluded to his name as Betatron implied that there was more to come and that this was just a "beta" version of this toy. They said a lot of tongue-in-cheek comments and wouldn't give straight answers that made me believe that we'll be getting something better later down the road. Plus I know they read a lot of the comments on our forums so I've got my fingers crossed that they'll do us right by Computron. I'm assuming we'll know more next month at NYCC.

Well they are the last vehicle group (that isn't original), so, despite the heavy remolding that they would need to have done right by us, it wouldn't make a lot of sense to skip them for a third set of '84 or something like that.

Also, doesnt it being called Betatron mean that this release is still happening but there will be another Scattershot torso issued later?

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:18 am

william-james88 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Seibertron wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:Plus the figure in display definitely looked like a prototype, so there's that.

I can't recall word-for-word what Hasbro said to me, but they alluded to his name as Betatron implied that there was more to come and that this was just a "beta" version of this toy. They said a lot of tongue-in-cheek comments and wouldn't give straight answers that made me believe that we'll be getting something better later down the road. Plus I know they read a lot of the comments on our forums so I've got my fingers crossed that they'll do us right by Computron. I'm assuming we'll know more next month at NYCC.

Well they are the last vehicle group (that isn't original), so, despite the heavy remolding that they would need to have done right by us, it wouldn't make a lot of sense to skip them for a third set of '84 or something like that.

Also, doesnt it being called Betatron mean that this release is still happening but there will be another Scattershot torso issued later?

Oooh, I hope so, I love this mold, so extra-extra variety would be awesome :DANCE:

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:26 am

I feel pretty confidant that we will see the limbs for Beta/Compu tron. I'd bet they just weren't ready to show, or maybe they were waiting for Takara to finish their Groove. As far as the head, it's anyone's guess. Comp's and Sup's head do look an awful lot alike. although I'd like to see him get his own sculpt.

Anybot remember what the time frame for release of the G2 box sets was?

News Credits: 14 · by **robotmel** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:29 am

I am pleased Hasbro have developed a modern wave of Combiners for all us fans, Computron being one of the G1 gestalts I used to own, so this new, modern Generations version pending will make a nice addition to my growing Combiner collection!

All this talk of Combiner heads has made me dig out photos of the original G1 heads of both Computron and Superion for a quick comparison.

G1 Computron headshot.

G1 Superion headshot.

They are both very similar apart from the antenna, so using the same Combiner Wars gestalt head for both moulds would be more of a nod towards the G1-era of Transformers and help offer further remoulding changes elsewhere?

Im keen to see the various limb-bots in all their futuristic glory! :-P