Computron and Liokaiser can be found here:
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ser/35114/This is to start some Computron and Liokaiser discussion over here in the actual combiner wars thread.
Well, with the reveal of the Hasbro version in whole, I am still on the fence. Hasbro for me is much cheaper that takara. Hasbro to me has the better looking Strafe. Takara has the far better individual modes for the other 3 limbs, but the issue with that Nosecone to me makes for a bad looking leg with that massive lump below his knee, whereas the combined Hasbro Nosecone makes for such a better silhouette even if the individual is complete crap. I also love the new tooling on Scattershot that is evident on Computron. So yeah, that's where we stand. I will display these guys combined pretty much all the time, so it really comes down to those versions, and both have ups and downs.
also, the fact that we are getting a Liokaiser is pretty sweet. Still waiting on an official reveal, but it is very cool they are doing one