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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Stuartmaximus » Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:25 am

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i wouldn't mind that deluxe Groove, as it would go nice with my Defensor ;)

i take it that Cosmos repaint is just the generations one & not the iGear?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:45 am

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Stuartmaximus wrote:i wouldn't mind that deluxe Groove, as it would go nice with my Defensor ;)

i take it that Cosmos repaint is just the generations one & not the iGear?

Why would it be the igear one? But yes its generations cosmo with new head and new colour scheme.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby King Kuuga » Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:09 am

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Stuartmaximus wrote:i wouldn't mind that deluxe Groove, as it would go nice with my Defensor ;)

i take it that Cosmos repaint is just the generations one & not the iGear?

In what universe would Hasbro have access to and then release an Igear product? Because it isn't this one.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:19 am

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Hellscream9999 wrote:Wishin' that Scrounge was a normal release, maybe TT can squeeze him into the tav line, but I doubt it :BANG_HEAD:

That sounds quite plausible to me though. You never know. Last year's Takara rerelease of Rumble and Frenzy was one hell of a pleasant surprise. What you suggest sounds likely but we might wait a while. They did just finally release Skids and we are all still waiting on Jiahaxus >:oP

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Quick question inbetween because I can't really tell: is CW Liokaiser's head unchanged from Sky Reign's? Sure looks like it.

You can see they resculpted the inside of the mouth for there to be a face in it. The head is the same essentially, but there are eyes and a mouthplate in the beast mouth. Also, we know what he is holding. It is that arms micron bird plane that turns into a weapon. That is an homage to the G1 animal breast plates each would have. It also gives him a 6th member ( >:oP ).
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ZeroWolf wrote:Wasn't sky lynx rumoured to actually be deathsarus?

Yup, he will be deathsaurus.

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Its fun, I dont think there is an inferior combiner, you both get good stuff for the money. I am choosing Takara though because each member and the combiner himself looks more like their own individual rather than being another toy in a different paint scheme.



It's just interesting to me; with a lot of the points people have made, it does seem like one is inferior. Your last point here really sums up how I see it.
I just prefer figures that accurately look like the characters they're supposedly representing from the show. And when a version comes out that is less accurate with something important like the character's head sculpt or alt mode (especially if it's both), I don't see how that version could be better.

Not trying to start a debate, just glad Takara attempts giving us figures that are solid representations of the characters from the shows.


I meant it differently though. Since I dont know the G1 character that well and have no attachment with him, I dont care if one is more accurate than the other to the source material, I care that it is a different toy and that my combiners look different from one to the next. I am looking at the effort spent. And one look at CW Nosecone and Lightspeed as well as the unchanged Superion Torso makes this an easy decision for me. But what I was also trying to say was that Hasbro did make the set inticing in its own way. You get an exclusive retool and head with Strafe AND you get a bonus figure and you get some really nice hands and feet. Plus that scattershot in vehicle has the best paint job I have ever seen on a toy at this price point:

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So both sets have good stuff to offer, hence why one is not inferior in a general sense, though I do preffer Takara for my own needs.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby alex1986lunatic » Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:21 am

That Hasbro Scattershot really looks gorgeous...
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Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Legends Wreck-Gar found at US Retail

Postby william-james88 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:30 am

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Fellow Seibertronian Bumblebee21 has found the elusive Legends Wreck-Gar at retail. This toy has not been easy to find (it doesn't last 5 mins when sold from Amazon) and is part of a restock of the previous wave of Generations Combiner Wars Legends figures with him being the only new toy. This toy was found at Target in the US. If others have found this toy, please let the community now in the sightings forum.

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Insurgent » Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:58 am

Someone at Botcon give the hasbro reps some feedback that they should make little packs of hands/feet of the Computron set in various colours. I'm sure people would buy them (at least, I know I would).
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:21 am

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Insurgent wrote:Someone at Botcon give the hasbro reps some feedback that they should make little packs of hands/feet of the Computron set in various colours. I'm sure people would buy them (at least, I know I would).

Thing is I'm not entirely sure Transformers have ever had releases which were purely accessories - there's at least some sort of actual character bought; like how the Titan Masters vehicles have actual Titan Master characters with them.
Plus the main market for any Transformers line (bar botcon) is still kids. Not sure how many kids would really pay up for hands and feet.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Insurgent » Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:40 am

I was thinking not as a mass retail release, but maybe an online thing? Just wishing there was a way to get those hands feet more than anything, as they are nicer than the standard ones and the PE ones.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Apr 10, 2016 12:14 pm

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I'm really hoping Liokaiser actually comes out looking decent. I am keeping Sky Lynx separated and not combined, so he would look different from my other combiners. :MAXIMAL:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby RiddlerJ » Sun Apr 10, 2016 12:25 pm

I would love accessory packs for Transformers. Just extra guns and stuff. I know they used to do it for G.I. Joe back in the day, but I don't know if they still do.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:15 pm

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I will admit I would like it, because tbh... I do like those hands and feet better than Perfect Effect's (at least, their Hands/Feet before Bruticus and Computron). Yeah. Hasbro does something better than Third Parties; I'm going straight to TF Fandom hell for saying that. But seriously the feet look better proportioned and I can go with hands having no articulation as long as they look bulky enough and not skeletal like Menasor/Superion/Defensor/Optimus Maximus' PE kits
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:25 pm

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Kurona wrote: Yeah. Hasbro does something better than Third Parties; I'm going straight to TF Fandom hell for saying that.


I havent heard any fan claim Warbot Defendor to be better than Voyager Springer, quite the opposite. So there are probably more people in TF Fandom hell than outside of it.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:27 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Kurona wrote: Yeah. Hasbro does something better than Third Parties; I'm going straight to TF Fandom hell for saying that.


I havent heard any fan claim Warbot Defendor to be better than Voyager Springer, quite the opposite. So there are probably more people in TF Fandom hell than outside of it.

Well, I'll see you guys in hell. Springer is amazing and Those hands and feet look exactly like what was meant to be one those combiners :MAXIMAL:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby steals_your_goats » Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:29 pm

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:39 pm

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steals_your_goats wrote:Hasbros afterburner uses the new head not the groove one Image


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I can tell it's easy to confuse the two...But visor is Afterbreaker, eyes is Groove. Well, let's hope they stick with that head.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:44 pm

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Are you sure you don't have that mixed up jelze? That picture of afterburner in the case certainly looks like a visor...While the other doesn't have it.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:48 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:Are you sure you don't have that mixed up jelze? That picture of afterburner in the case certainly looks like a visor...While the other doesn't have it.


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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:48 pm

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He's right, that is a different head than the Groove one from that angle and look. I updated our own newspost about 2 hours ago and didn't realize it. interesting. :MAXIMAL:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:49 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:Are you sure you don't have that mixed up jelze? That picture of afterburner in the case certainly looks like a visor...While the other doesn't have it.

This could be a case like Ravage and Rumble. The official pictures have a different head than what it actually comes with. :MAXIMAL:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:23 pm

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I'm now very confused as to which head is getting used. Unless those renders were done and straight after they were allowed to use the new head for afterburner.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:30 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:I'm now very confused as to which head is getting used. Unless those renders were done and straight after they were allowed to use the new head for afterburner.


I think the head we see on display is the right one and the one in the 3d model is what they had going at the begining. Well thats good, that definitely takes away a negative point from hasbro's. Still, the guns UW Afterburner have are so much more amazing!
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Postby Autobot N » Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:58 pm

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After some thinking, I have decided to cancel my UW-08 preorder, and I now eagerly await the release of Hasbro's Computron. Before anyone begins to think that I'm crazy, I shall explain myself.

Combined mode: Since I have the PC-03 upgrade kit on my Superion with the blue-visored face, the UW Comp head looks a bit too similar to it, so the faceplated head shall provide some difference between the two. Also new hands and feet means I don't have to buy the PE kit. The UW chest does look way better though.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:11 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I'm now very confused as to which head is getting used. Unless those renders were done and straight after they were allowed to use the new head for afterburner.


I think the head we see on display is the right one and the one in the 3d model is what they had going at the begining. Well thats good, that definitely takes away a negative point from hasbro's. Still, the guns UW Afterburner have are so much more amazing!


Darn, this makes it harder for me to turn Hasbro's Afterbreaker into a new character from G1 Afterburner. I can still justify it on the basis of the different color scheme Hasbro's version sports, especially because of all of that black that was actually white on the G1 character.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:55 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I'm now very confused as to which head is getting used. Unless those renders were done and straight after they were allowed to use the new head for afterburner.


I think the head we see on display is the right one and the one in the 3d model is what they had going at the begining. Well thats good, that definitely takes away a negative point from hasbro's. Still, the guns UW Afterburner have are so much more amazing!


Darn, this makes it harder for me to turn Hasbro's Afterbreaker into a new character from G1 Afterburner. I can still justify it on the basis of the different color scheme Hasbro's version sports, especially because of all of that black that was actually white on the G1 character.


Even better, just flip the backpack around. They end up looking very different when one has one wheel in the air. I would recomend doing that with the takara one since that means that the hasbro one would have all that green that distracts away from the headsculpt being the same.

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Autobot N wrote:Nosecone: I like the upward-facing drill kneecap better.


I know you do, but I dont think Computron will when he has to do some warmups:

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Just messing, I said it before and I will say it again, there are no losers in this computron war when 2 companies are making such different toys with their own exclusive retools and molds :D

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