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[Jelze Bunnycat]

Are you locking in the double/triple knee joint properly?

To elaborate, the knees on Hot Spot/Onslaught are multi-jointed. To get it to properly lock, you need to move the lowest hinge to a 90 degree angle, then swing the second hinge up. If done correctly the panel the knee joint is on should slide into a pair of groves, locking it into the leg.

[Rainmaker]

Are you locking in the double/triple knee joint properly?

To elaborate, the knees on Hot Spot/Onslaught are multi-jointed. To get it to properly lock, you need to move the lowest hinge to a 90 degree angle, then swing the second hinge up. If done correctly the panel the knee joint is on should slide into a pair of groves, locking it into the leg.

I don't understand

[william-james88]

Are you locking in the double/triple knee joint properly?

To elaborate, the knees on Hot Spot/Onslaught are multi-jointed. To get it to properly lock, you need to move the lowest hinge to a 90 degree angle, then swing the second hinge up. If done correctly the panel the knee joint is on should slide into a pair of groves, locking it into the leg.

I don't understand

Watch some video reviews then. Any that handle the transformation will do.

[Sowndwave76]

Hey, quick question for anyone interested.
I'm most likely going to sell my Fansproject City Commander and Hasbro Voyager Ultra Magnus.
So how good is the CW Ultra Magnus?
I'd be willing to get him now that he's on sale, however, I'm not completely sold.
I will watch a few reviews but figured insight from people here would be just as valuable.

Not too worried either way. I still have a U.M. & Skywarp 2 pack and another City Commander set both MISP.

Thanks!

[Hellscream9999]

Hey, quick question for anyone interested.
I'm most likely going to sell my Fansproject City Commander and Hasbro Voyager Ultra Magnus.
So how good is the CW Ultra Magnus?
I'd be willing to get him now that he's on sale, however, I'm not completely sold.
I will watch a few reviews but figured insight from people here would be just as valuable.

Not too worried either way. I still have a U.M. & Skywarp 2 pack and another City Commander set both MISP.

Thanks!

It's a fun design and an overall great figure, but the plastic is pure crap, it's stupid thin, and kind of squishy; bought two, and both of their legs' internal mechanism's shattered from the strain of transforming, it's that bad - and several other people have had a similar problem. I can only recommend getting one that doesn't break

I'm sorry if that doesn't help, but it is that much of a coin toss in my eyes (and experience)

[Sowndwave76]

Hey, quick question for anyone interested.
I'm most likely going to sell my Fansproject City Commander and Hasbro Voyager Ultra Magnus.
So how good is the CW Ultra Magnus?
I'd be willing to get him now that he's on sale, however, I'm not completely sold.
I will watch a few reviews but figured insight from people here would be just as valuable.

Not too worried either way. I still have a U.M. & Skywarp 2 pack and another City Commander set both MISP.

Thanks!

It's a fun design and an overall great figure, but the plastic is pure crap, it's stupid thin, and kind of squishy; bought two, and both of their legs' internal mechanism's shattered from the strain of transforming, it's that bad - and several other people have had a similar problem. I can only recommend getting one that doesn't break

REALLY...
Hmmm. I like the look of the design, but that's a real shame if the plastic is that bad.
Haven't had a chance to watch reviews yet. Been watching a couple Euro Cup games I had to record.

Thanks,'Scream.

[Ironhidensh]

I just got the Takara version of Magnus, and I've found him to be greatly superior to Hasbro.

[Hellscream9999]

Hey, quick question for anyone interested.
I'm most likely going to sell my Fansproject City Commander and Hasbro Voyager Ultra Magnus.
So how good is the CW Ultra Magnus?
I'd be willing to get him now that he's on sale, however, I'm not completely sold.
I will watch a few reviews but figured insight from people here would be just as valuable.

Not too worried either way. I still have a U.M. & Skywarp 2 pack and another City Commander set both MISP.

Thanks!

It's a fun design and an overall great figure, but the plastic is pure crap, it's stupid thin, and kind of squishy; bought two, and both of their legs' internal mechanism's shattered from the strain of transforming, it's that bad - and several other people have had a similar problem. I can only recommend getting one that doesn't break

REALLY...
Hmmm. I like the look of the design, but that's a real shame if the plastic is that bad.
Haven't had a chance to watch reviews yet. Been watching a couple Euro Cup games I had to record.

Thanks,'Scream.

Yeah, well, they wouldn't mention it anyways; plenty of people got lucky, so, if it's cheap enough, you could flip that coin, not sure what else to tell you

[Hellscream9999]

I just got the Takara version of Magnus, and I've found him to be greatly superior to Hasbro.

I've heard that... maybe it's the plastic formula they used for the cw vs the legends one

[steals_your_goats]

I just got the Takara version of Magnus, and I've found him to be greatly superior to Hasbro.

I've heard that... maybe it's the plastic formula they used for the cw vs the legends one

Same plastic. Same factory.

[Emerje]

I have no plastic problems with mine, I just wish he could hold his guns without them falling out every time I move him a little.

Emerje

[Hellscream9999]

I just got the Takara version of Magnus, and I've found him to be greatly superior to Hasbro.

I've heard that... maybe it's the plastic formula they used for the cw vs the legends one

Same plastic. Same factory.

But different colors, aren't the cw's colors a little watered down? I always felt so

[steals_your_goats]

I just got the Takara version of Magnus, and I've found him to be greatly superior to Hasbro.

I've heard that... maybe it's the plastic formula they used for the cw vs the legends one

Same plastic. Same factory.

But different colors, aren't the cw's colors a little watered down? I always felt so

The blue is lighter yes but I wouldn't say it's watered down, I'm not sure plastic colors work that way. It's a totally different shade. And honestly with the accounts of Takaras feeling "better" I think it's just people seeing what they want to see.

[Hellscream9999]

I just got the Takara version of Magnus, and I've found him to be greatly superior to Hasbro.

I've heard that... maybe it's the plastic formula they used for the cw vs the legends one

Same plastic. Same factory.

But different colors, aren't the cw's colors a little watered down? I always felt so

The blue is lighter yes but I wouldn't say it's watered down, I'm not sure plastic colors work that way. It's a totally different shade. And honestly with the accounts of Takaras feeling "better" I think it's just people seeing what they want to see.

Possibly, but doesn't different color = different formula? Maybe it's that color that has a problem? But I've handled a couple cw magnus' and that thin plastic just feels horrible to man-handle

[Agamemnon]

I just got the Takara version of Magnus, and I've found him to be greatly superior to Hasbro.

I've heard that... maybe it's the plastic formula they used for the cw vs the legends one

Same plastic. Same factory.

Sometimes things can happen with injection molding where the same batch has different issues. Sometimes there can be overpacked molds or short shots. There are even issues with temperature that can greatly affect the final part stability. And different colors can have vastly different consistencies resulting in more brittle makeup or softer, more pliable parts. (GPS being an extreme example of brittleness.)

Ultimately there are so many variables that can affect plastic quality and final attributes (like being brittle) that it is hard to assure anything being the same, sometimes even within a particular run. It was why we had certain function tests to assure issue like brittle pieces, and took random sampling from all over the run. It was also why our vendor used to discard a certain number of first run parts, until things like temperature were stabilized. Ambient temperature was another variable that affected things. I could go on and on....

(<== Ag used to be a quality technician in charge of inspecting injection molded parts.)

[Sowndwave76]

No way am I going to pay $70 + shipping for the TT version.
I'm going to wait... If the price of Hasbro's drops to $30, I'll definitely bite.
Interested, but not overly worried.

[steals_your_goats]

I just got the Takara version of Magnus, and I've found him to be greatly superior to Hasbro.

I've heard that... maybe it's the plastic formula they used for the cw vs the legends one

Same plastic. Same factory.

Sometimes things can happen with injection molding where the same batch has different issues. Sometimes there can be overpacked molds or short shots. There are even issues with temperature that can greatly affect the final part stability. And different colors can have vastly different consistencies resulting in more brittle makeup or softer, more pliable parts. (GPS being an extreme example of brittleness.)

Ultimately there are so many variables that can affect plastic quality and final attributes (like being brittle) that it is hard to assure anything being the same, sometimes even within a particular run. It was why we had certain function tests to assure issue like brittle pieces, and took random sampling from all over the run. It was also why our vendor used to discard a certain number of first run parts, until things like temperature were stabilized. Ambient temperature was another variable that affected things. I could go on and on....

(<== Ag used to be a quality technician in charge of inspecting injection molded parts.)

Huh I didn't know that, very interesting

[william-james88]

Ok so Leader Magnus is a good toy. I like him and I had no problems with mine. If you want a competent version of magnus who has a robot mode that fully integrates the armour then this is your best bet for the price. However, its too bad the question is asked now since just last week there was an incredible sale on the Takara version which has much better colours than Hasbro's.

[Sowndwave76]

Ok so Leader Magnus is a good toy. I like him and I had no problems with mine. If you want a competent version of magnus who has a robot mode that fully integrates the armour then this is your best bet for the price. However, its too bad the question is asked now since just last week there was an incredible sale on the Takara version which has much better colours than Hasbro's.

I do like the look of TT's better (haha, not a huge surprise coming from me), but even at $50 I wouldn't get him. $40, maybe... But again, I'm not that interested.
If I see him in a store (which is unlikely) and he's on sale for $35-ish so shipping isn't involved, I'd most likely pick him up. Then if I changed my mind like I did with Scattershot, I'd just take him back.
Just checked TF because he would ship for free with my current stack, but they still want $47.

[william-james88]

Ok so Leader Magnus is a good toy. I like him and I had no problems with mine. If you want a competent version of magnus who has a robot mode that fully integrates the armour then this is your best bet for the price. However, its too bad the question is asked now since just last week there was an incredible sale on the Takara version which has much better colours than Hasbro's.

I do like the look of TT's better (haha, not a huge surprise coming from me), but even at $50 I wouldn't get him. $40, maybe... But again, I'm not that interested.
If I see him in a store (which is unlikely) and he's on sale for $35-ish so shipping isn't involved, I'd most likely pick him up. Then if I changed my mind like I did with Scattershot, I'd just take him back.
Just checked TF because he would ship for free with my current stack, but they still want $47.

I bought mine at 40$ and thought it was a very fair price. He is far more worth 40$ than any of those leader seekers (who I got at 30$, which seemed mroe fair). I would suggest to still get him eventually just to have that molding in your collection, since no other toy shares it. But of course, at the right price.

Oh and here he is at the perfect price: http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/en/htsusa/b2443as00--1

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I really liked Magnus. Still do. He's with me in my dorm right now as I speak. Great figure and worth the leader point. I'd get him if I were you. He truly is a great leader transformer that has 2 good modes and a leader worthy transformation

[william-james88]

Rapid fire question: You only have the money for either CW G2 Superion or G2 Menasor, which one do you get?

[Kurona]

Rapid fire question: You only have the money for either CW G2 Superion or G2 Menasor, which one do you get?

Menasor.
Drag Strip is honestly one of the sexiest CW decos I've seen, and I can use the limbs as pretend turbomasters for Battle Core Optimus Thunderclash to wear.

[Sigma Magnus]

Rapid fire question: You only have the money for either CW G2 Superion or G2 Menasor, which one do you get?

Superion, more new molds. For me, anyway.

[Hellscream9999]

Rapid fire question: You only have the money for either CW G2 Superion or G2 Menasor, which one do you get?

Superion because menasor has crappy legs

(but really menasor, because those colors )