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Rodimus Prime wrote:Same here. I never understood what the problem was with this. It's not difficult. All they had to do was shrink the dimensions of the mold, and press 6 deluxe-size figures instead of 6 voyager-sized ones. The figures themselves are fairly simple, Hasbro wouldn't have had to sacrifice accuracy or functionality to downsize them. And even with 6 deluxe members, Devastator would be bigger (but not by much) than the others.Seibertron wrote:I'd also love to see Devastator done in this scale so that he's not the odd man out as a "Titans Class" sized figure.
Rodimus Prime wrote:No, never cared for Classics Devy. And I'm not saying Titan Devy is bad, he's not. Especially with the PC-06 Prowlastator add-on, it's awesome. But I don't see why he couldn't have been also deluxe-sized. I understand Hasbro did the Titan Class for the collectors, but I think deluxe-sized would have sold just as well in stores, the pieces would have been more affordable.
Tekka wrote:What she doesn't realize is that Springer actually loves Rodimus.
ThunderThruster wrote:There would have been outrage if a 6 deluxe devastator was sold at 120. Consider that at even 15.99, 6 individual deluxe's come to 95.94, so 100 like the other boxsets would have been about right
Kurona wrote:I have absolutely no doubt the other combiners would be one Voyager + four deluxes and maybe a legend. Combiner Wars 2 looks like a stark possibility and I'm expecting Predaking and Abominus from it up front.
Something I'm indirectly excited about though is that they have to fit some autobots and repaints in there and they've done all three G1 Autobot combiners outside of some obscure japan-exclusive guys. And what easier repaint would there be than Razorclaw into Leo Prime? Leo Prime combiner
ZeroWolf wrote:I would be down for more combiner wars stuff and two new animal bot/maximal combiners but you know who else I would like to see? Monstructor.
Sowndwave76 wrote:ThunderThruster wrote:There would have been outrage if a 6 deluxe devastator was sold at 120. Consider that at even 15.99, 6 individual deluxe's come to 95.94, so 100 like the other boxsets would have been about right
But that's my point... 5 figures, although one's a voyager is $100.
Hasbro's going to make their money, so asking around $120 for 6 figures, that's not outrageous.
And if that would've been THE option, as a set, without selling the figures individually, everyone would've bought it, whether they complained or not.
Tekka wrote:What she doesn't realize is that Springer actually loves Rodimus.
Kurona wrote:Talking of Legends class downscaling; if a Piranacon/God Neptune/Poseidon were to happen, I can see Nautilator becoming a legends-class gun - the whole thing with those guys is that there were 5 limb-bots instead of four, and in addition to Beast, Robot, Arm and Leg modes they each had a fifth Targetmaster gun mode. Nautilator was the one most used as a gun though.
ThunderThruster wrote:Sowndwave76 wrote:ThunderThruster wrote:There would have been outrage if a 6 deluxe devastator was sold at 120. Consider that at even 15.99, 6 individual deluxe's come to 95.94, so 100 like the other boxsets would have been about right
But that's my point... 5 figures, although one's a voyager is $100.
Hasbro's going to make their money, so asking around $120 for 6 figures, that's not outrageous.
And if that would've been THE option, as a set, without selling the figures individually, everyone would've bought it, whether they complained or not.
But they're all 6 figures as they all have a legends figure included that forms ethier armour or a weapon:
4 deluxes (15.99), 1 Voyager (24.99) & 1 Legend (10.00), which equates to 99.95.
so yeah, 120 for 6 deluxes is outragous
Tekka wrote:What she doesn't realize is that Springer actually loves Rodimus.
ThunderThruster wrote:Wasn't CW Devi 150? which would be the total cost of 6 individual voyagers.
Using this as basis, and that this still includes the extra forearms and chest-plate, it again stands to reason that 100 would be the cost for a 6 deluxe set, including forearms and chest-plate.
As for 150 for UW boxset, they're always goinging to cost more as they're premium imports from Takara, and aren't a viable factor in debate about a release form Hasbro.
Kurona wrote:Yeah, six deluxes - assuming 16.99 - would come to...
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102. Which would likely be rounded down to 99.99
Sowndwave76 wrote:ThunderThruster wrote:Wasn't CW Devi 150? which would be the total cost of 6 individual voyagers.
Using this as basis, and that this still includes the extra forearms and chest-plate, it again stands to reason that 100 would be the cost for a 6 deluxe set, including forearms and chest-plate.
As for 150 for UW boxset, they're always goinging to cost more as they're premium imports from Takara, and aren't a viable factor in debate about a release form Hasbro.
My point is that if a deluxe-class figure Devastator was the only option for this set.
6 figures; no re-paints/re-tools within the set itself. Molds are most likely exclusive to this set overall in the entire line.
A crucial part of the combining system must be specifically designed for this set.
Multiple parts are exclusive to this set.
If done right, this doesn't come with Superion's gun, but again something exclusive.
So it's fine that a G2 Combiner is $100, but a Devastator with everything mentioned above at $120 is "outrageous"???
Sowndwave76 wrote:I'm not saying this is what I think is ideal, or what I would want.
Again, I understand the break-down of a set in terms of individual figures.
But we're not talking about a G2 Defensor... We're not talking about figure molds that are being used 2-3+ times. Or the standard hands/feet of these sets.
And on top of all of this, if you really think Hasbro wouldn't take this as an opportunity to make some extra $$...
[/quote]Sowndwave76 wrote:Just wait until Legends class figures are $10 each.
Tekka wrote:What she doesn't realize is that Springer actually loves Rodimus.
ThunderThruster wrote:Not really addressing it. I've pointed out that Devi was 150. It's 6 voyagers. Individually 6 voyagers come to....gosh darn it 150 (24.99each). It has the extra parts for forearms and chestplate. It hasn't been repainted into an alternate version or other characters. That's a 1 time use. So for you to say that they wouldn't do it, at cost for a one of is bull.
It wasn't so much of a "problem" with "doing a combiner made of six Deluxes" with Devastator, as it was more of a case of Hasbro looking over what they could do for the next Titan class figure after Metroplex, deciding that they wanted to do a Titan class Combiner to go along with and do something really super special for the Combiner Wars theme of that year, and chose Devastator both because he was the first Combiner (so picking him for the choice would be a great way to honor both Devastator and the Combiner concept that he pioneered) and because he always seemed the most imposing and most massive of the better-known G1 Combiners, with his having six members instead of five also making him even more special. They thought this would all be impressive and cool more than anything, wanting to wow us with it, rather than the reason being any kind of hindrance that prevented Devastator from being smaller.Rodimus Prime wrote:Same here. I never understood what the problem was with this. It's not difficult. All they had to do was shrink the dimensions of the mold, and press 6 deluxe-size figures instead of 6 voyager-sized ones. The figures themselves are fairly simple, Hasbro wouldn't have had to sacrifice accuracy or functionality to downsize them. And even with 6 deluxe members, Devastator would be bigger (but not by much) than the others.Seibertron wrote:I'd also love to see Devastator done in this scale so that he's not the odd man out as a "Titans Class" sized figure.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sowndwave76 wrote:ThunderThruster wrote:Not really addressing it. I've pointed out that Devi was 150. It's 6 voyagers. Individually 6 voyagers come to....gosh darn it 150 (24.99each). It has the extra parts for forearms and chestplate. It hasn't been repainted into an alternate version or other characters. That's a 1 time use. So for you to say that they wouldn't do it, at cost for a one of is bull.
First off, these figures are "voyager" in size, but to say they're each worth $24.99 is just wrong. And the additional parts for Devs don't improve them.
Sowndwave76 wrote:No CW figure is top-notch. But the Constructicons are not the same as the other voyagers such as Cyclonus.
--I'm not saying all other voyagers are automatically better than the Constructicons. In terms of appearance, Hook and Scrapper are two of my favorites of the whole line--
As much as I like the set, I know individually they're not true voyager class quality. That's a dead horse.
Tekka wrote:What she doesn't realize is that Springer actually loves Rodimus.
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