The Energon Pub

[Shuttershock]

Rid (or car robots) actually had more combiners than you're remembering in the form of the train team that formed rail racer (three man team full parts integration) and the land fill team (four members, full parts integration. ..I think)

Oh and will, in animated, the combiner was called Safe Guard who only a few liked (like me who digged his symmetrical docking like combination) he wasn't perfect, but I had fun with him.

That train is cool, I was glad to finally get him, though the fact that they accomplish to have 3 bullet trains actually turn into individual robots which in turn can combine into a bigger robot is better than the actual end result. One of the parts ends up beign a back pack, just like those samurai combiners from Transformers Go!

And to those asking, I wouldnt count 2 part combiners in a list. There are so many, I might as well just do a list of 2 part combiners. But they come up in other lists anyway already, like best Optimus Super Modes, which is all about him teaming up with other bots.

I will show you what my dilemma is when we look beyond G1. As you may have noticed, I really like when a list goes through a buch of different eras and designs (which even the G1 combiner list does) and that is still honest and true. It shows how certain toys still hold up. But if we look at combiners, they are all evaluated on that combining technology. If a combiner technology is better than the rest, then why not include all combiners that use it or exclude all those that dont.

For instance, think of the best version of Superion and Devastator since G1. Are both from the same line? If so, then whats the use of naming other more subpar combiners? Thats what I am struggling with.

In the end, I feel it will be easier to eventually dolists of top 5 toys in a specific line and we can then see where the combiners end up within (hint hint, the energon combiner teams are not top 5 in the Energon line and movie Devastator is not top 5 in best toys from ROTF).

Thanks for helping me out guys, it means a lot.

I do see your point. By the evolving nature of the brand, the methods of combining are (generally) always improving to add more versatility and flexibility. Plus they keep upping their game in terms of size and how many can go into bigger bots while being stable, so by definition the best combiners are the latest editions.

Nostalgia and fondness for the old toys aside, it would be laughable to put G1 Devastator on the same list as CW Superior, save for it a pity mention of it's "important place" in the legacy.

[leokearon]

Really cool, but I'm going to wait and see if they do a G2 Defensor set.

[Randomhero]

Really cool, but I'm going to wait and see if they do a G2 Defensor set.

Might wanna take a gander at what G2 groove looked like...

[Randomhero]

Robotkingdome is now sold out of preorders

[william-james88]

Really cool, but I'm going to wait and see if they do a G2 Defensor set.

Might wanna take a gander at what G2 groove looked like...

Transformers Generation 2 Groove Gallery

[Randomhero]

Really cool, but I'm going to wait and see if they do a G2 Defensor set.

Might wanna take a gander at what G2 groove looked like...

Transformers Generation 2 Groove Gallery

Orange Sherbet flavored

[leokearon]

Really cool, but I'm going to wait and see if they do a G2 Defensor set.

Might wanna take a gander at what G2 groove looked like...

I know what he looked like, in fact I'm planning to do Combiner wars G2 Digibashes of the Preotectobots it get a better idea

[Targetmaster Kup]

I only want him for his guns, to give them to Legends Class Groove.

[Randomhero]

Really cool, but I'm going to wait and see if they do a G2 Defensor set.

Might wanna take a gander at what G2 groove looked like...

I know what he looked like, in fact I'm planning to do Combiner wars G2 Digibashes of the Preotectobots it get a better idea

You can probably just google that. I'm sure a hundred people have already done it

[leokearon]

Really cool, but I'm going to wait and see if they do a G2 Defensor set.

Might wanna take a gander at what G2 groove looked like...

I know what he looked like, in fact I'm planning to do Combiner wars G2 Digibashes of the Preotectobots it get a better idea

You can probably just google that. I'm sure a hundred people have already done it

Haven't seen any, and it is more fun to make them myself

[King Kuuga]

I almost pulled the trigger on a Robot Kingdom preorder, but saw the shipping prices and decided to wait. BBTS, don't let me down now.

It may cost just as much, ultimately, from them, since they still have to import it from Taiwan and that's factored into the store cost, but I prefer them.

Also Robot Kingdom is pre-sold out now, so my hands are tied.

[Megatron Wolf]

Any word on if its getting a retail release and a pack in comic?

[DeathReviews]

Excellent. Death is pleased.

[King Kuuga]

Any word on if its getting a retail release and a pack in comic?

I would not hold my breath.

[william-james88]

Any word on if its getting a retail release and a pack in comic?

If by retail you mean Brick and Mortar then its a hard no. BUT if you mean that it will appear online at walmart or amazon then maybe. Like Quickslinger and Wildrider, this wont appear in stores and be online only.

[Randomhero]

Any word on if its getting a retail release and a pack in comic?

If by retail you mean Brick and Mortar then its a hard no. BUT if you mean that it will appear online at walmart or amazon then maybe. Like Quickslinger and Wildrider, this wont appear in stores and be online only.

I agree. People claimed to have seen breakneck and quickslinger but there's never been proof of them being in the wild not to mention it's one figure and I don't think they'll do a retail for one figure. Cases are like 10 or 12 units?

If anywhere maybe toysrus but toysrus has been pretty bad latley. I have 2 in my city and man have they been behind on current stuff. Neither even have tags for G2 Superion. 2 years ago you could walk in any day and get MP-10 when it was released

[Cobotron]

The sad truth about TRU

Man, the two in my city are that bad too. Two peg rows. that's it. Did AOE burn them that bad? Why would they just stop carrying TFs?
The two here don't even stock Platinums of any kind.

[kurthy]

Any word on if its getting a retail release and a pack in comic?

If by retail you mean Brick and Mortar then its a hard no. BUT if you mean that it will appear online at walmart or amazon then maybe. Like Quickslinger and Wildrider, this wont appear in stores and be online only.

I agree. People claimed to have seen breakneck and quickslinger but there's never been proof of them being in the wild not to mention it's one figure and I don't think they'll do a retail for one figure. Cases are like 10 or 12 units?

If anywhere maybe toysrus but toysrus has been pretty bad latley. I have 2 in my city and man have they been behind on current stuff. Neither even have tags for G2 Superion. 2 years ago you could walk in any day and get MP-10 when it was released

I think there's a probable scenario for seeing them in the wild. Someone ordered them online, decided they didn't want them, but instead of shipping them, they returned them to the local store, and the local store put them on the shelf rather than sending them back to the district center.

[Targetmaster Kup]

Quickslinger and Wildrider got comics, why wouldn't Groove?

[Randomhero]

Quickslinger and Wildrider got comics, why wouldn't Groove?

I think every combiner issue was completed(out of order) with the final wave. Only comic that could've worked was combiner hunters but that had its own special release

[Railbomb]

The sad truth about TRU

Man, the two in my city are that bad too. Two peg rows. that's it. Did AOE burn them that bad? Why would they just stop carrying TFs?
The two here don't even stock Platinums of any kind.

I have two Toys R Us' near me too and the ones Transformers section has been getting smaller and smaller first with Jurassic World and then they moved the Power Rangers stuff next to it after moving the Marvel stuff for Star Wars. Thankfully the other one near me hasn't faced the same fate and still has a decent sized space for Transformers but they still don't get Platinums in except for every other Hasbro MP.

[Randomhero]

The sad truth about TRU

Man, the two in my city are that bad too. Two peg rows. that's it. Did AOE burn them that bad? Why would they just stop carrying TFs?
The two here don't even stock Platinums of any kind.

I have two Toys R Us' near me too and the ones Transformers section has been getting smaller and smaller first with Jurassic World and then they moved the Power Rangers stuff next to it after moving the Marvel stuff for Star Wars. Thankfully the other one near me hasn't faced the same fate and still has a decent sized space for Transformers but they still don't get Platinums in except for every other Hasbro MP.

thats the same here is Des Moines. One is full of those neon blue RID figures and RID minicons and the other is just now getting the Combaticons and if full of the AOE and old voyagers.

[kurthy]

The sad truth about TRU

Man, the two in my city are that bad too. Two peg rows. that's it. Did AOE burn them that bad? Why would they just stop carrying TFs?
The two here don't even stock Platinums of any kind.

I have two Toys R Us' near me too and the ones Transformers section has been getting smaller and smaller first with Jurassic World and then they moved the Power Rangers stuff next to it after moving the Marvel stuff for Star Wars. Thankfully the other one near me hasn't faced the same fate and still has a decent sized space for Transformers but they still don't get Platinums in except for every other Hasbro MP.

thats the same here is Des Moines. One is full of those neon blue RID figures and RID minicons and the other is just now getting the Combaticons and if full of the AOE and old voyagers.

You're in DM? I'm over in Iowa City, at least you have a TRU. I've only got two WMs and a Target within thirty minutes.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Quickslinger and Wildrider got comics, why wouldn't Groove?

International packaging, what's why (it even said so in the news post). Those never got comics, only a collector's card.

And all I can say is... ugh. Of course he's announced after the Protectobots and Autobot Cars have disappeared from the pegs. If lucky I can only get Hot Spot and Minigroove.

[Cobotron]

The sad truth about TRU

Man, the two in my city are that bad too. Two peg rows. that's it. Did AOE burn them that bad? Why would they just stop carrying TFs?
The two here don't even stock Platinums of any kind.

I have two Toys R Us' near me too and the ones Transformers section has been getting smaller and smaller first with Jurassic World and then they moved the Power Rangers stuff next to it after moving the Marvel stuff for Star Wars. Thankfully the other one near me hasn't faced the same fate and still has a decent sized space for Transformers but they still don't get Platinums in except for every other Hasbro MP.

thats the same here is Des Moines. One is full of those neon blue RID figures and RID minicons and the other is just now getting the Combaticons and if full of the AOE and old voyagers.

You're in DM? I'm over in Iowa City, at least you have a TRU. I've only got two WMs and a Target within thirty minutes.

Ha! I'm in Omaha where we are down to 1 TRU. The other TRU I frequent is across the river in Council Bluffs, Iowa. Iowa TRUs hate Transformers!