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Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

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Postby nycPrime » Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:32 pm

Amazon has Victorion for $40: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019849M98/re ... 3MX6NGQ1KU

Liokaiser has also been steadily dropping in price, and is currently at $110: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LZA268R/re ... YPE6UQE7OP
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Postby o.supreme » Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:54 pm

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Postby Bumblebee21 » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:15 pm

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Postby Emerje » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:28 pm

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Bumblebeevis21 wrote:Does Computron feel different to anybody

Not sure what you mean. Different how? Compared to what?

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Postby Bumblebee21 » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:32 pm

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Emerje wrote:
Bumblebeevis21 wrote:Does Computron feel different to anybody

Not sure what you mean. Different how? Compared to what?

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Postby Emerje » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:36 pm

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Bumblebeevis21 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Bumblebeevis21 wrote:Does Computron feel different to anybody

Not sure what you mean. Different how? Compared to what?

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Not really since he's 3/5 straight repaints.

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Postby Bumblebee21 » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:41 pm

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Emerje wrote:
Bumblebeevis21 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Bumblebeevis21 wrote:Does Computron feel different to anybody

Not sure what you mean. Different how? Compared to what?

Emerje

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Not really since he's 3/5 straight repaints.

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:03 pm

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Bumblebeevis21 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Bumblebeevis21 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Bumblebeevis21 wrote:Does Computron feel different to anybody

Not sure what you mean. Different how? Compared to what?

Emerje

To the other combiners

Not really since he's 3/5 straight repaints.

Emerje

He just has a different feel


CW Computron does have some problems in the looks department, thanks to being 3/5 straight redecos. Afterbreaker and Strafe look inspired by their G1 counterparts, and Scattershot too to an extent. Nosecone and Lightsteed lose out by not having new head, looking like a brown and yellow Brawl and red Streetwise instead. The torso still looks like Superion in sculpt.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:01 pm

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Bumblebeevis21 wrote:Does Computron feel different to anybody

Yes, and I will say why, its those wings. That plastic is different from every other plastic used in this line. Its that softer lighter plastic similar to what was found on the 2012 generations toys that I wished would never resurface. But its back because those wings to have thin and pointy bits. I would have much preferred the plastic used on Cyclonus.
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Postby TF-fan kev777 » Tue Dec 27, 2016 10:25 am

william-james88 wrote:
Bumblebeevis21 wrote:Does Computron feel different to anybody

Yes, and I will say why, its those wings. That plastic is different from every other plastic used in this line. Its that softer lighter plastic similar to what was found on the 2012 generations toys that I wished would never resurface. But its back because those wings to have thin and pointy bits. I would have much preferred the plastic used on Cyclonus.


Yes, and the flexible plastic is on both Hasbro and TT versions. Unfortunately Hasbro decided to paint the wings as well, so I'm going to assume the paint will flake of over time with the flexing of the wings.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Evil Eye » Wed Dec 28, 2016 1:53 pm

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I hope you guys are enjoying your combiners, because now I've gotten through two UW boxsets and they've both broken on me, I'm never buying official combiners again.

I'm actually really, really angry at CW/UW. Thanks to them, all the good 3Ps have decided "People won't buy CHUG scaled 3P combiners anymore, let's switch to MP scale!". Now I have nothing against MP scale (I'm not Rated X) but it isn't what I collect. So basically, unless I switch to collecting MPs (which isn't happening), or MakeToys/some other equally high-quality CHUG-centred company makes the rest of the combiners I want (namely Bruticus and Superion) I'm not going to be able to have acceptable quality combiners in my preferred scale- and there's no chnace of the crazier combiners (like Megatronia) getting good 3P efforts. And given HasTak's incompetence/the state of the Western toy market, we're not going to get CHUG scale official combiners again for another decade, and if we do they'll probably be even worse.

So thanks a smegging bunch, HasTak, your awful penny-pinching on material quality and undeserved dominance of the market has doomed my collection. Please go bankrupt soon you incompetent hacks. Maybe when the license is available to everyone, someone with actual talent will tackle combiners, and I'll finally have good high-end CHUG scale representations of them.

I'm sorry, I'm still furious over the sad demise of my UW Computron. Thus ends the rant.
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Postby o.supreme » Wed Dec 28, 2016 1:59 pm

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Wow..that is sad...I've not had any problems with my UW's yet. I find them for the most part more stable and sturdy than my CW.
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Postby Sabrblade » Wed Dec 28, 2016 2:02 pm

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Maybe Takara secretly conspired to put Black Hat off of the CW/UW molds by making sure that the two UW sets he bought were faulty ones while everyone else got good-conditioned ones. Mwhahaha! :twisted:

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Postby Evil Eye » Wed Dec 28, 2016 2:06 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Maybe Takara secretly conspired to put Black Hat off of the CW/UW molds by making sure that the two UW sets he bought were faulty ones while everyone else got good=conditioned ones. Mwhahaha! :twisted:

:P

Well if they did it sure worked. Though I'm failing to see the funny side myself. >:oP
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby nycPrime » Wed Dec 28, 2016 3:53 pm

Black Hat wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Maybe Takara secretly conspired to put Black Hat off of the CW/UW molds by making sure that the two UW sets he bought were faulty ones while everyone else got good=conditioned ones. Mwhahaha! :twisted:

:P

Well if they did it sure worked. Though I'm failing to see the funny side myself. >:oP

I think I mentioned that I also have some bad luck with figures. I have UW Superion and had some issues with one of the limbs and torso when in bot mode. Basically for one of the limbs (can't remember which), one of the shoulders refused to stay in place. For Silverbolt, because of where some of the parts tab in, the paint chipped away very quickly. Luckily Toy Dojo has awesome customer service and they sent me replacements. The limb replacement was fine but the Silverbolt still had minor chipped paint. But the kicker? The new Silverbolt didn't have a head for Superion. It was somehow missing. So I had to send both back and they were able to swap out the heads so I could have a complete Silverbolt.

Man, I've been a little busy and lazy, so I still haven't opened my UW Computron. Not sure I'll get to it tonight as MP SW arrives, and that's a character I've wanted since I was a kid... Fingers crossed when I open it later this week probably.
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Postby Sigma Magnus » Wed Dec 28, 2016 6:19 pm

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Postby SureShot18 » Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:40 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Bumblebeevis21 wrote:Does Computron feel different to anybody

Yes, and I will say why, its those wings. That plastic is different from every other plastic used in this line. Its that softer lighter plastic similar to what was found on the 2012 generations toys that I wished would never resurface. But its back because those wings to have thin and pointy bits. I would have much preferred the plastic used on Cyclonus.

You know the plastic used on my Streetwise has practically the exact same feel. Combined with that, the floppiness, and the deco he's my least favorite CW deluxe after Brawl. Man I don't like Brawl.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:55 pm

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SureShot18 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Bumblebeevis21 wrote:Does Computron feel different to anybody

Yes, and I will say why, its those wings. That plastic is different from every other plastic used in this line. Its that softer lighter plastic similar to what was found on the 2012 generations toys that I wished would never resurface. But its back because those wings to have thin and pointy bits. I would have much preferred the plastic used on Cyclonus.

You know the plastic used on my Streetwise has practically the exact same feel. Combined with that, the floppiness, and the deco he's my least favorite CW deluxe after Brawl. Man I don't like Brawl.

I too dislike him, and hes the one who gave me the biggest qc issue with the hand breaking from the hole it was pegged in while in arm mode. The reason I dislike Brawl is enough for me to stay away from Liokaiser. But I also have a great dislike for Breakdown.
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Postby Sigma Magnus » Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:01 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
SureShot18 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Bumblebeevis21 wrote:Does Computron feel different to anybody

Yes, and I will say why, its those wings. That plastic is different from every other plastic used in this line. Its that softer lighter plastic similar to what was found on the 2012 generations toys that I wished would never resurface. But its back because those wings to have thin and pointy bits. I would have much preferred the plastic used on Cyclonus.

You know the plastic used on my Streetwise has practically the exact same feel. Combined with that, the floppiness, and the deco he's my least favorite CW deluxe after Brawl. Man I don't like Brawl.

I too dislike him, and hes the one who gave me the biggest qc issue with the hand breaking from the hole it was pegged in while in arm mode. The reason I dislike Brawl is enough for me to stay away from Liokaiser. But I also have a great dislike for Breakdown.

Breakdown, at least to me, isn't really bad, it's just...average. My Wheeljack has a slightly floppy ratchet joint, but is otherwise good QC-wise, and I kinda like him as a gestalt arm, if only for the

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:47 pm

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The Breakdown mold's honestly my least favourite - I only have the Jumpstream version but I'm assuming there's not a wide gap in quality between her and her mold-mates. Brawl could be a thousand times better, sure; but his robot mode... is passable. It works. Even without a goddamn waist, he can look cool to me.
Jumpstream's robot mode just looks so bad. The arms are all gangly, her legs are boxey and the way they're connected to the waist doesn't help... ugh. It's just a really dreadful robot no matter what way I look at it.
Still, they're not the worst toys ever - in both cases, their leg and vehicle modes are just fine. And while those being the only two good modes would be frustrating for an individual figure... for a combiner, if one figure's a dud but they make a fine leg, I can't spend a long time complaining about it. If it's a crap robot, whatever, just as long as you can make Bruticus and Victorion look as awesome as they do.

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Postby Cobotron » Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:31 pm

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Kurona wrote:Victorion should have had two same-mold jets instead of two different cars
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:06 am

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Black Hat wrote:I hope you guys are enjoying your combiners, because now I've gotten through two UW boxsets and they've both broken on me, I'm never buying official combiners again.


I am so sorry to hear your pain, that sucks. But I do want to warn you, going 3p is not the answer if you want to stay away from QC. 100% of all my 3p purchases have serious QC flaws. The quality has never been proven better on them. All they have is a higher parts count and that means more chance for problems. The only reason 3p are pricier is because they dont work on economies of scale. So you can go 3p, but dont expect any better in terms of quality.

Is there any chance you can get a refund or exchanges for your toys? At worst, contact Hasbro about your problems with the hasbro one and they could get you a new figure.

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