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Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:12 pm

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Va'al wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
albnok wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
albnok wrote:
I've already bought all the first wave deluxes so I won't get it again just for the comics, but it's still a bummer.


Those two reasons are not mutually exclusive (is that the right wording?).

The comics werent available yet so the first wave didnt have any distinguishing differences between the english release and international release. But now, there are comics so not only will there be a distinction in wave 2, but now any rerelease of wave one will have 2 distinct releases: one English and one International. If Malaysia didnt get the comics in the past generations lines, it wont get them now (Hong Kong did and thus can get the rereleased versions with the comics). Canada never got the comics and still wont.

It's not that complicated.


Okay just one more - what's the difference between English/US release and international release?

Malaysia got the comics in the previous Generations lines. So does the presence of a comic imply English/US release, or is it:

English/US release with comics
International release with comics (Hong Kong, Malaysia, Singapore)
International release without comics (Canada)


English release does not need to have any other language than english on the box or contents (ie comics). International release has everything translated. That's it, the only 2 options. Some countries' laws dont care if their language isnt on the box or contents and will still sell the English version (usually with a sticker saying "be careful small parts" in whatever their language is). But other countries do.

If Malaysia got the comics before (just like Hong Kong, Australia, and Singapore)then they will get these comics. You guys get the same product as the states, your laws are not as restrictive.


US release, not English. UK and Australia (and other Anglophone countries) get the international version.


So UK and Australia dont get the comics?

But then that gets super confusing because Hong Kong, Singapore and (newly known to me) Malaysia gets those versions too. I am super surprised Australia doesnt get the comics.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:22 pm

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You know, I'm not sure. Australia might get the US release (which is different from the international release), as do Malaysia, Hong Kong and Singapore. I'm guessing Hasbro Asia works with US releases for some things. :-?

I'll ask Burn about Oz.

As for anything within the EU (and I do not care if UK people like to believe they are not part of it), multiple languages need to be present, so an English-only publication cannot be released.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:26 pm

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Indeed, the only way, besides Internet, to get the generations with comics, is to go to an import shop or comic shop. It's fairly annoying. ..and I don't know the reason why we don't get them!
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:39 pm

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EU language laws and international licensing. Hasbro UK and Hasbro EU are both responsible for both of those, too, and it's also the reason behind the amusing one-line bios. :D

I personally don't mind, as the comics are one thing and the toys are another, and I get the comics anyway. But I can see how some types of collector will find this annoying. :)
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:44 pm

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Ah I see, thanks Va'al it makes sense considering the single market of the EU. For the record, Im all for the EU :)
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:48 pm

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What's weird though, is that Europe has suffered a bit of a relapse in the language department: instead of 13(!) languages, EU Combiner Wars packaging now has a measly 4.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:57 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:What's weird though, is that Europe has suffered a bit of a relapse in the language department: instead of 13(!) languages, EU Combiner Wars packaging now has a measly 4.


24. TWENTY. FOUR.

http://ec.europa.eu/languages/policy/li ... -eu_en.htm
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Tue Mar 10, 2015 4:06 pm

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Va'al wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:What's weird though, is that Europe has suffered a bit of a relapse in the language department: instead of 13(!) languages, EU Combiner Wars packaging now has a measly 4.


24. TWENTY. FOUR.

http://ec.europa.eu/languages/policy/li ... -eu_en.htm


Yet the packaging only has 4... Well, here in the Netherlands anyway :-?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Tue Mar 10, 2015 4:09 pm

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Yeah, it's four for all now. Trying to find a supporting source for it. :-?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby RhA » Tue Mar 10, 2015 4:51 pm

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We're back to 4? I didn't notice. Packaging is there to be destroyed, not read.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby durroth » Tue Mar 10, 2015 5:47 pm

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I don't want the comics though. they're just rereleases of the retail comics with special covers. Anyone want to trade with me? I'll send you the comics, you send me the cards...
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Mar 10, 2015 5:47 pm

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RhA wrote:We're back to 4? I didn't notice. Packaging is there to be destroyed, not read.


In Quebec, Canada, Packaging is there to represent independence, difference, and to create laws that piss me off.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Tue Mar 10, 2015 5:53 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
RhA wrote:We're back to 4? I didn't notice. Packaging is there to be destroyed, not read.


In Quebec, Canada, Packaging is there to represent independence, difference, and to create laws that piss me off.


In Europe, they serve as a means of entertainment in the form of "Lost in Translation". Especially Dutch seems to be a tricky language for the translators ("Robot Function" for "Robot Mode", really?) :lol:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Tue Mar 10, 2015 5:55 pm

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Mar 10, 2015 6:25 pm

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Those combining bots are pretty good, almost as good as this far more relevant comic

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Tue Mar 10, 2015 6:32 pm

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J'aime les robots géants. J'aime les Guerres des Combiners.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Tue Mar 10, 2015 6:52 pm

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Editor » Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:02 pm

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Hey Va'al. that comic is very relevant. says the guys whose province would have a better chance it it separated than Quebec would. 8)

Of course I married a French-Canadian girl so that does't help. Even if Quebec separated we would have to go there to visit my in-laws.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:27 pm

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Cobotron wrote:Je suis un grand fan de prendre les petits robots et de les combiner en une gigantesque robot super colausul . Temps pour faire la fête ! ;)


My my, google translate must have been working overtime, or are you just that good?

In case anyone cares to see how close that was:

Je suis un grand fan de prendre des petits robots et de les combiner en un gigantesque robot super colossal. Temps de faire la fête!
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:43 pm

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william-james88 wrote:google translate must have been working overtime, or are you just that good?
overtime :lol:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Ultra Markus » Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:11 pm

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why couldn't they release the comic book with the fiqures in the first place
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Shuttershock » Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:26 pm

UlMarkus wrote:why couldn't they release the comic book with the fiqures in the first place


If the pack-ins are indeed just recycled issues from RID or Dark Cybertron as a prelude to CW, then I can't see why.

If they are the actual Combiner Wars story, then they couldn't have the issues come out WELL ahead of the IDW story that sets it up.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby King Kuuga » Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:50 pm

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TFWiki is saying that the wave 2 toys come with RID issues 13-16. Do we know what issues the wave 1 toys are supposed to come with? The way I understand what happened is that they couldn't finish printing the pack-in comics in time to slip them into the English-only territory packaging before they had to ship out, so even the territories that would normally get the pack-in comics got the international editions with the cards. Now the comics are printed, so any wave 1 figures that are included in future case assortments will have comics (if you're in a territory that gets the pack-in comic versions of the toys; if you're not, then you still just get the card).

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Have deluxes previously included pack-in comics in your region?
If yes, you will get comics with the figures once wave 2 ships.
If no, you will only ever get the cards, unless you import.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:56 pm

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Uh, geishundheit?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:31 pm

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Flashwave wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Je suis un grand fan de prendre les petits robots et de les combiner en une gigantesque robot super colausul . Temps pour faire la fête ! ;)


Uh, geishundheit?
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