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[SW's SilverHammer]

Its the same design

It is not the same design. Nick Roche came up with his MTMTE design while the other one from the 2009-2011 Ongoing was designed by Don Figueroa.

You're both wrong. It's the same Ultra Magnus armor, as currently piloted by minimus ambus. It's two different artistic interpretations of the same armor. In fact, the appearance of the Nick Roche armor in stories that take place before ultra magnus's first appearance in the ongoing means it's the same armor due to retroactive continuity. So unless either ultra Magnus toy can phase shift both red and white depending on the issue of MTMTE neither will be entirely comic accurate.

Also, seriously sabr? You're putting the Hasbro ultra magnus on a neo classic Japanese G1 shelf? After making such a big deal about two different artistic interpretations of the same character in the same continuity. It's clearly IDW ultra magnus and looks nothing like JG1 contemporaries. That's like putting ROTF ransack with classics style generation 2 figures.

[Stuartmaximus]

Its the same design

It is not the same design. Nick Roche came up with his MTMTE design while the other one from the 2009-2011 Ongoing was designed by Don Figueroa.

You're both wrong. It's the same Ultra Magnus armor, as currently piloted by minimus ambus. It's two different artistic interpretations of the same armor. In fact, the appearance of the Nick Roche armor in stories that take place before ultra magnus's first appearance in the ongoing means it's the same armor due to retroactive continuity. So unless either ultra Magnus toy can phase shift both red and white depending on the issue of MTMTE neither will be entirely comic accurate.

Also, seriously sabr? You're putting the Hasbro ultra magnus on a neo classic Japanese G1 shelf? After making such a big deal about two different artistic interpretations of the same character in the same continuity. It's clearly IDW ultra magnus and looks nothing like JG1 contemporaries. That's like putting ROTF ransack with classics style generation 2 figures.

Like you kinda said... This Magnus is nothing like the G1 character! coz that one wasn't piloted(in robot mode) by a minifigure(with the exception of the Only Human episode! where he was piloted by a human in robot mode).

[fenrir72]

Its the same design

It is not the same design. Nick Roche came up with his MTMTE design while the other one from the 2009-2011 Ongoing was designed by Don Figueroa.

You're both wrong. It's the same Ultra Magnus armor, as currently piloted by minimus ambus. It's two different artistic interpretations of the same armor. In fact, the appearance of the Nick Roche armor in stories that take place before ultra magnus's first appearance in the ongoing means it's the same armor due to retroactive continuity. So unless either ultra Magnus toy can phase shift both red and white depending on the issue of MTMTE neither will be entirely comic accurate.

Also, seriously sabr? You're putting the Hasbro ultra magnus on a neo classic Japanese G1 shelf? After making such a big deal about two different artistic interpretations of the same character in the same continuity. It's clearly IDW ultra magnus and looks nothing like JG1 contemporaries. That's like putting ROTF ransack with classics style generation 2 figures.

In this twisted retcon happy world of IDW (of course Marvel and DC are the king in that regard) you are correct. Hasbro just went for the Nick Roche interpretation because the previous designer is no longer the flavor of theprofit margins quarter. That Mini mee character and all the recent developmentsare about as hokey as Orion Pax and Optronix are differing Optimus'

I'm kind of off the loop with the neo classic categorizing......

[Ironhidensh]

That moment when you realize a bunch of nerds are sitting around arguing about robot thighs.....

[Burn]

That moment when you realize a bunch of nerds are sitting around arguing about robot thighs.....

And they're not feminine thighs either.

[Sabrblade]

You're both wrong. It's the same Ultra Magnus armor, as currently piloted by minimus ambus. It's two different artistic interpretations of the same armor. In fact, the appearance of the Nick Roche armor in stories that take place before ultra magnus's first appearance in the ongoing means it's the same armor due to retroactive continuity. So unless either ultra Magnus toy can phase shift both red and white depending on the issue of MTMTE neither will be entirely comic accurate.

You are on a completely different page from anything I have been saying. I was never talking from an in-universe fictional standpoint. Don Fig created his own design for Ultra Magnus, and Nick Roche created a different design of his own later. It is fallacious for anyone to claim that the two artists used the same Ultra Magnus design as each other when such is not true.

Also, seriously sabr? You're putting the Hasbro ultra magnus on a neo classic Japanese G1 shelf? After making such a big deal about two different artistic interpretations of the same character in the same continuity. It's clearly IDW ultra magnus and looks nothing like JG1 contemporaries. That's like putting ROTF ransack with classics style generation 2 figures.

Clearly you have overlooked a very important thread related to this matter, which featured this:

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Its the same design but the colour arrangement is different (I edited my comment as well as added a better pic).

Pretty much every transformers had a different design for the 2009 ongoing and MTMTE. Nick Roche and Alex Milne completely redesigned the cast for issue 1 of MTMTE, Magnus included. this is pretty much a case of artistic license, with the first Magnus being earth based and the new Magnus being cybertronian. Same armor, different look.

[Cobotron]

Arguing over TF fiction continuity is like arguing over TF scale. It will get you no where.
Just gotta git in, where you fit in. Dig?

[RhA]

Arguing over TF fiction continuity is like arguing over TF scale. It will get you no where.
Just gotta git in, where you fit in. Dig?

All my desktop battles are canonical.

[SW's SilverHammer]

You're both wrong. It's the same Ultra Magnus armor, as currently piloted by minimus ambus. It's two different artistic interpretations of the same armor. In fact, the appearance of the Nick Roche armor in stories that take place before ultra magnus's first appearance in the ongoing means it's the same armor due to retroactive continuity. So unless either ultra Magnus toy can phase shift both red and white depending on the issue of MTMTE neither will be entirely comic accurate.

You are on a completely different page from anything I have been saying. I was never talking from an in-universe fictional standpoint. Don Fig created his own design for Ultra Magnus, and Nick Roche created a different design of his own later. It is fallacious for anyone to claim that the two artists used the same Ultra Magnus design as each other when such is not true.

Actually, you were. No matter what you want to say, it's the same Ultra Magnus. It dosen't matter which artist created what, both are equally valid interpretation of the exact same character. So yes, white thighs, red thighs, both are valid. That's the actual point last time I checked.

Also, seriously sabr? You're putting the Hasbro ultra magnus on a neo classic Japanese G1 shelf? After making such a big deal about two different artistic interpretations of the same character in the same continuity. It's clearly IDW ultra magnus and looks nothing like JG1 contemporaries. That's like putting ROTF ransack with classics style generation 2 figures.

Clearly you have overlooked a very important thread related to this matter, which featured this:

Oh i'm sorry I thought you meant an Actually classics style JG1 continuity. Last time I checked, the legends comics were supposed to be goofy fluff material, not a serious continuity. I mean for it's been 20 years, and the comic makes Trukk not Munky jokes, I don't think it's really meant to be taken seriously No matter how many fan wanky moments there are to The Headmasters, there are just as many:
megatron's in business suits
Tigatron collecting kiss player
rattrap giving dinobot a Gari Robo-kun popsicle
Airazor and T-AI dressing up in Santa Claus outfits
windblade working at a little sister cafe, where starscream also works.
And Many more!

[william-james88]

Its the same design

It is not the same design. Nick Roche came up with his MTMTE design while the other one from the 2009-2011 Ongoing was designed by Don Figueroa.

Alright sorry Sabr. I just saw a lot of similarities with the armour and thought that they were the same design but by a different artist.

[Cobotron]

Arguing over TF fiction continuity is like arguing over TF scale. It will get you no where.
Just gotta git in, where you fit in. Dig?

All my desktop battles are canonical.

That's what I'm talkin' 'bout.

[Sowndwave76]

Just watched the video review listed with the TFSource PE Combiner hand/feet set, and while the hands do look a little thin, when positioned as a fist, I think they're pretty okay.
Especially considering I'm not a fan of the originals.
Which speaking of originals, I can't stand the original combiner feet... I know, I know, in the grand scheme, not the end of the world. For me, just way too small and flat for combiners.
Not to mention, the PE feet will add a little height.
So as long as the hands are decent, I think this set will be worth it.

And I can't say it enough... PE's head & chestplate/back add-on set makes a world of difference for this figure. The head sculpt is beautiful, and along with the shoulders, it really creates a quality G1-esque aesthetic.

On a different note, are people still feeling at all confident that Blast-Off will get a new mold with the UW release??

[william-james88]

On a different note, are people still feeling at all confident that Blast-Off will get a new mold with the UW release??

It's a certainty, the designer already released sketches of what it would look like, they are going full G1. You can clock the "join discussion" in the link below and you will be directed to the appropriate thread to receive the latest news on the matter.

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/new-tweets-from-tf-yuki-about-takara-transformers-unite-warriors-menasor-and-blast-off/33684/

[Sowndwave76]

Thanks.
I was on hiatus just long enough to miss that bit in that thread.
And good news, too. Even though I thought Hasbro's version was actually okay.
A proper Blast-Off will be really cool.

[DedicatedGhostArt]

Also, seriously sabr? You're putting the Hasbro ultra magnus on a neo classic Japanese G1 shelf? After making such a big deal about two different artistic interpretations of the same character in the same continuity. It's clearly IDW ultra magnus and looks nothing like JG1 contemporaries. That's like putting ROTF ransack with classics style generation 2 figures.

Clearly you have overlooked a very important thread related to this matter, which featured this:

Oh i'm sorry I thought you meant an Actually classics style JG1 continuity. Last time I checked, the legends comics were supposed to be goofy fluff material, not a serious continuity. I mean for it's been 20 years, and the comic makes Trukk not Munky jokes, I don't think it's really meant to be taken seriously No matter how many fan wanky moments there are to The Headmasters, there are just as many:
megatron's in business suits
Tigatron collecting kiss player
rattrap giving dinobot a Gari Robo-kun popsicle
Airazor and T-AI dressing up in Santa Claus outfits
windblade working at a little sister cafe, where starscream also works.
And Many more!

Oh and also don't forget dis:

DAYUM Chromia's got some hooters.

[Burn]

Trust SillySpringer to take it from off-topic to creepy.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Trust SillySpringer to take it from off-topic to creepy.

Steering this crazy train back onto the tracks, how bout them new combaticons eh?

[Burn]

Trust SillySpringer to take it from off-topic to creepy.

Steering this crazy train back onto the tracks, how bout them new combaticons eh?

Do they have hooters?

[SW's SilverHammer]

Trust SillySpringer to take it from off-topic to creepy.

Steering this crazy train back onto the tracks, how bout them new combaticons eh?

Do they have hooters?

Swindle's kinda busty.

[Burn]

Trust SillySpringer to take it from off-topic to creepy.

Steering this crazy train back onto the tracks, how bout them new combaticons eh?

Do they have hooters?

Swindle's kinda busty.

SillySpringer will be adding that one to the list to get but never gets then!
I'm just stirring ya SS. Take your finger off the report this post button!

[DedicatedGhostArt]

Trust SillySpringer to take it from off-topic to creepy.

Steering this crazy train back onto the tracks, how bout them new combaticons eh?

Do they have hooters?

Swindle's kinda busty.

SillySpringer will be adding that one to the list to get but never gets then!
I'm just stirring ya SS. Take your finger off the report this post button!

Wasn't even considering it.
Btw if ya want it a bit more creepier, here's one of the sketches for Generations Arcee:
http://www.allspark.com/forums/uploads/ ... _thumb.jpg
Anyhow...
soooo anyone other than me planning to get Bruticus? All if favor of getting Bruticus say "I".

[Burn]

soooo anyone other than me planning to get Bruticus? All if favor of getting Bruticus say "I".

Dude, you're planning on getting everything. As soon as a new figure is revealed we look at it and have two thoughts.
1 - That figure is awesome (or alternatively, that figure is gonna suck)
2 - SillySpringer is going to be all over that.


But yes, I will be getting him, hopefully the TT version though.

[SW's SilverHammer]

Trust SillySpringer to take it from off-topic to creepy.

Steering this crazy train back onto the tracks, how bout them new combaticons eh?

Do they have hooters?

Swindle's kinda busty.

SillySpringer will be adding that one to the list to get but never gets then!
I'm just stirring ya SS. Take your finger off the report this post button!

Wasn't even considering it.
Btw if ya want it a bit more creepier, here's one of the sketches for Generations Arcee:
http://www.allspark.com/forums/uploads/ ... _thumb.jpg
Anyhow...
soooo anyone other than me planning to get Bruticus? All if favor of getting Bruticus say "I".

I don't sere a problem with it, Arcee's meant to be more shapely. Mostly because she was meant to be "the chick" in the 86 movie. Also, yes i'm getting bruticus, i'll see if i can headswap Blastoff, or if there's a perfect combiner upgrade,

[DedicatedGhostArt]

soooo anyone other than me planning to get Bruticus? All if favor of getting Bruticus say "I".

Dude, you're planning on getting everything. As soon as a new figure is revealed we look at it and have two thoughts.
1 - That figure is awesome (or alternatively, that figure is gonna suck)
2 - SillySpringer is going to be all over that.


But yes, I will be getting him, hopefully the TT version though.

Ha ha I hate you. (JK)
I've been collecting for only a year now, cut me some slack.
Next year, I should be able to get more figures because of better budget. I can't get too many TFs this year cuz I'm saving up for UW Devy in December.
I only get the Takara version if the overall build is better, or is at least 50% more appealing to me (whatever that means).
The product shots for the normal CW Bruticus looks good enough for me, so I'm not gonna pay an extra $50 for a couple extra paint aps and MAYBE a shuttle Blastoff. I am spending wisely. I'm less stupid with my money than some collectors who get something they don't need, then end up missing out on something better later.