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Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Jeen0808 » Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:41 am

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steals_your_goats wrote:So for those of you who listen to the transmissions podcasts you'll know that they have a segment every now and again that's dedicated to rumors about upcoming figures. While most rumors are just that I think it's safe to put more stock in these ones since basically everything that they discussed on their shows had been eventually revealed at nycc. The reason I bring this up is because their last show had a few rumors that I don't think we've heard before.

1. There will be an astrotrain repaint of sentinel prime and a lazerbeak out of buzzsaw. This isn't coming as a shock to anyone but it was mentioned, so why leave it out?

2. We will be getting a Computron in combiner wars. Now I know that people hold true to the thinking of "what's been revealed is all we're getting", but according to their source Computron was supposed to be revealed at nycc but the mistake at botcon kinda screwed that up and they didn't want to keep everyone waiting on titans return.

3. The molds used for Computron will be a repaint/remold of a stunticon, aerialbot, brawl and the deluxe groove mold. I thought that was the most interesting one and that also points to Takara possibly doing a new mold for strafe since that seems to be the theme of this line.

So what do you guys think? I know they're rumors but like I mentioned previously this source has quite a bit of credibility from all the titans return leaks. Also over the next few weeks the transmissions crew will be putting out more rumors dropped on them by this source and I will post them here if there's any interest.

Does that mean that everyone that wants to complete Computron will have to get Scattershot, like, right now or face the future's aftermarket price when the limbs are announced?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby steals_your_goats » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:22 am

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steals_your_goats wrote:So for those of you who listen to the transmissions podcasts you'll know that they have a segment every now and again that's dedicated to rumors about upcoming figures. While most rumors are just that I think it's safe to put more stock in these ones since basically everything that they discussed on their shows had been eventually revealed at nycc. The reason I bring this up is because their last show had a few rumors that I don't think we've heard before.

1. There will be an astrotrain repaint of sentinel prime and a lazerbeak out of buzzsaw. This isn't coming as a shock to anyone but it was mentioned, so why leave it out?

2. We will be getting a Computron in combiner wars. Now I know that people hold true to the thinking of "what's been revealed is all we're getting", but according to their source Computron was supposed to be revealed at nycc but the mistake at botcon kinda screwed that up and they didn't want to keep everyone waiting on titans return.

3. The molds used for Computron will be a repaint/remold of a stunticon, aerialbot, brawl and the deluxe groove mold. I thought that was the most interesting one and that also points to Takara possibly doing a new mold for strafe since that seems to be the theme of this line.

So what do you guys think? I know they're rumors but like I mentioned previously this source has quite a bit of credibility from all the titans return leaks. Also over the next few weeks the transmissions crew will be putting out more rumors dropped on them by this source and I will post them here if there's any interest.

Does that mean that everyone that wants to complete Computron will have to get Scattershot, like, right now or face the future's aftermarket price when the limbs are announced?


They'll probably release it again. Contrary to popular belief Hasbro isn't stupid so I don't think they'd shoot themselves in the foot by not putting him out there again.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby steals_your_goats » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:25 am

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I just had a thought, when Bruticus was announced Hasbro said that there'd be a running change where they would do 2 versions of onslaught. Well unless I'm mistaken running change usually implies that there will be multiple figures following that pattern. So I wonder if the scattershot is just supposed to be Betatron, not Computron and we'll get a proper one ( at least a different combiner head and better paint) on the next one.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby steals_your_goats » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:28 am

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RAR wrote:I suppose Wreck Gar can function as the weapon or accessory unless they want to repaint Shokcwave into something or maybe make a tiny Grimlock toy.


I'd be down for a cool :BOT: shockwave as the sixth member. I can't really see what else they would do unless they redeco powerglide again.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby RAR » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:47 am

Might be an idea to buy a Scattershot and not open it yet as we might hear more by Toyfair 2016 in a few months time to know if The Technobots set is going to happen as a gift set or not.

Takara seems to be doing well with the Giftsets and Hasbro has already been hinting at making a G2 Bruticus Giftset next year as well.

I say keep doing it - they are far more welcome than some of those dreadful Platinum releases have been.

Heck make G2 Protectobots as well while you're at it I'd say to Hasbro.

I would be keen to see creative use of Combiner Wars mould in vs Giftsets too - not only as we are missing Key Autobots like Sideswipe & Ratchet but also as Galvatronus would benefit from some limbs.

There are plenty of obvious repaints that can be done : Detritus, Slicer, Exhaust, Bluestreak, Ratchet, Sideswipe, (G2 Sideswipe), Hoist, Red Alert, perhaps even Gutcruncher (from Rook), Deftwing, Deep Cover & Clampdown as well and that is even leaving aside the Technobots.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Nov 02, 2015 11:58 am

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steals_your_goats wrote:I just had a thought, when Bruticus was announced Hasbro said that there'd be a running change where they would do 2 versions of onslaught. Well unless I'm mistaken running change usually implies that there will be multiple figures following that pattern. So I wonder if the scattershot is just supposed to be Betatron, not Computron and we'll get a proper one ( at least a different combiner head and better paint) on the next one.
Running changes have a history of occurring to single figures rather than entire waves.

And they specified Onslaught's being so fans could choose between Onslaught-accurate green or Bruticus-accurate gray. Scattershot doesn't have such a situation.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby King Kuuga » Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:05 pm

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On the topic of Bruticus redecos, I'd like a Ruination in honor of RID over another G2 Bruticus.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:23 pm

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That Bot wrote:On the topic of Bruticus redecos, I'd like a Ruination in honor of RID over another G2 Bruticus.
I'd like that too (and in Baldigus/show-accurate colors rather than Hasbro toy colors), but I'd more expect to see it from either Takara (possibly via e-HOBBY) or Fun Pub, as I really don't see Hasbro proper giving due attention to Ruination.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby King Kuuga » Mon Nov 02, 2015 2:14 pm

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I'm not too particular about WHO does it, as long as it gets done.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Mon Nov 02, 2015 3:33 pm

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I would love to get the rid version, as I missed out on a couple of his limbs, but I would love the snow camo and desert camo ones too :x
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:49 pm

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That Bot wrote:On the topic of Bruticus redecos, I'd like a Ruination in honor of RID over another G2 Bruticus.
I'd like that too (and in Baldigus/show-accurate colors rather than Hasbro toy colors), but I'd more expect to see it from either Takara (possibly via e-HOBBY) or Fun Pub, as I really don't see Hasbro proper giving due attention to Ruination.


But they gave him attention last time when they released foc bruticus.

Also RAR, i would rather have those platinum coneheads and trypticon over g2 repaints any day.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:09 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
That Bot wrote:On the topic of Bruticus redecos, I'd like a Ruination in honor of RID over another G2 Bruticus.
I'd like that too (and in Baldigus/show-accurate colors rather than Hasbro toy colors), but I'd more expect to see it from either Takara (possibly via e-HOBBY) or Fun Pub, as I really don't see Hasbro proper giving due attention to Ruination.


But they gave him attention last time when they released foc bruticus.
That was a different Hasbro team (and they turned him into an Autobot made of Wreckers with Emirate Xaaron's head).
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:44 pm

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For all this talk of Computron, I highly doubt that he will get a retail release next year, as individual limbs. Hasbro said they would never release a torso without all the limbs since they found messing up with the first two waves a mistake. And they also stated (in what I still find a weird statement) that he symbolized an early version of Computron ( :HEADHURTS: ). What this tells me is that IF Computron is released next year, it would be as a box set with an upgraded Scattershot torso (not much difference, but better paint apps for sure). But yeah, Hasbro already revealed the first 3 quarters of next year so there isnt space for individual limbs at retail (Bruticus first quarter, skyreign second quarter, titan returns third and 4th quarter).
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Mon Nov 02, 2015 11:38 pm

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william-james88 wrote:For all this talk of Computron, I highly doubt that he will get a retail release next year, as individual limbs. Hasbro said they would never release a torso without all the limbs since they found messing up with the first two waves a mistake. And they also stated (in what I still find a weird statement) that he symbolized an early version of Computron ( :HEADHURTS: ). What this tells me is that IF Computron is released next year, it would be as a box set with an upgraded Scattershot torso (not much difference, but better paint apps for sure). But yeah, Hasbro already revealed the first 3 quarters of next year so there isnt space for individual limbs at retail (Bruticus first quarter, skyreign second quarter, titan returns third and 4th quarter).


Did anyone actually confirm that tw is starting 3rd quarter, or is that just something we made up and rolled with?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby steals_your_goats » Tue Nov 03, 2015 2:05 pm

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Tue Nov 03, 2015 2:34 pm

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Saw this on Reddit and thought it was pretty cool. I think this is another demolisher situation but still neat.


Except that, unlike demolisher, he fits with the mold, and the vehicle model, so I would say that it is more possible, but looks kinda fake to me, possibly home made >:oP
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

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Saw this on Reddit and thought it was pretty cool. I think this is another demolisher situation but still neat.
An unpainted gray resin head on a fully painted, fully produced, fully-released-at-mass-retail body just screams "fan custom"/"3rd party" head to me.

If the rest of the figure was as unfinished as the head (as the Demolishor test shot was), that'd be a more compelling case for a potentially official retool.

Not to mention that Hasbro wants to avoid confusion with the term "Robots in Disguise", wanting it to refer entirely to the current cartoon right now, as is why IDW had to drop the name from one of its ongoings. So it wouldn't make sense for them to release a Robots in Disguise-related toy that wasn't related to the current Robots in Disguise series.

And, in all honesty, the Hot Spot head is already Optimus Prime-like as it is for Hasbro to feel it was "close enough" for them if they wanted to make any Optimus Prime out of the mold.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby steals_your_goats » Tue Nov 03, 2015 2:59 pm

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Saw this on Reddit and thought it was pretty cool. I think this is another demolisher situation but still neat.
An unpainted gray resin head on a fully painted, fully produced, fully-released-at-mass-retail body just screams "fan custom"/"3rd party" head to me.

If the rest of the figure was as unfinished as the head (as the Demolishor test shot was), that'd be a more compelling case for a potentially official retool.

Not to mention that Hasbro wants to avoid confusion with the term "Robots in Disguise", wanting it to refer entirely to the current cartoon right now, as is why IDW had to drop the name from one of its ongoings. So it wouldn't make sense for them to release a Robots in Disguise-related toy that wasn't related to the current Robots in Disguise series.

And, in all honesty, the Hot Spot head is already Optimus Prime-like as it is for Hasbro to feel it was "close enough" for them if they wanted to make any Optimus Prime out of the mold.


I don't think this is going to be a thing I just thought that Hasbro has unused heads for their figures and this might have been one. At any rate I just thought it was cool.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:51 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:An unpainted gray resin head on a fully painted, fully produced, fully-released-at-mass-retail body just screams "fan custom"/"3rd party" head to me.


Its confirmed to be a fan custom.
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Postby Ironhidensh » Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:20 pm

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Ironhidensh wrote:Also, isn't that the Fire Convoy head from Car Robots/the first RiD?


Yes, but that was the point, to do a fire convoy combiner, it was one of the most thought of possible re-uses outside of onslaught for that mold.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby King Kuuga » Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:43 pm

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steals_your_goats wrote:Image
Saw this on Reddit and thought it was pretty cool. I think this is another demolisher situation but still neat.


Not to mention that Hasbro wants to avoid confusion with the term "Robots in Disguise", wanting it to refer entirely to the current cartoon right now, as is why IDW had to drop the name from one of its ongoings. So it wouldn't make sense for them to release a Robots in Disguise-related toy that wasn't related to the current Robots in Disguise series.

They didn't label Sky Byte as being from RID, they don't have to label this. Just call it some form of Optimus Prime. I mean, it's not happening, but that's what I would do.

And, in all honesty, the Hot Spot head is already Optimus Prime-like as it is for Hasbro to feel it was "close enough" for them if they wanted to make any Optimus Prime out of the mold.

"Any" optimus prime, maybe, but not THIS Optimus Prime, one of only two who turns into a fire truck.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:54 pm

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Saw this on Reddit and thought it was pretty cool. I think this is another demolisher situation but still neat.


Not to mention that Hasbro wants to avoid confusion with the term "Robots in Disguise", wanting it to refer entirely to the current cartoon right now, as is why IDW had to drop the name from one of its ongoings. So it wouldn't make sense for them to release a Robots in Disguise-related toy that wasn't related to the current Robots in Disguise series.

They didn't label Sky Byte as being from RID, they don't have to label this. Just call it some form of Optimus Prime. I mean, it's not happening, but that's what I would do.

And, in all honesty, the Hot Spot head is already Optimus Prime-like as it is for Hasbro to feel it was "close enough" for them if they wanted to make any Optimus Prime out of the mold.

"Any" optimus prime, maybe, but not THIS Optimus Prime, one of only two who turns into a fire truck.


It is one of the more distinctive ones.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

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That was a year ago. The current RID series wasn't around back then.

That Bot wrote:"Any" optimus prime, maybe, but not THIS Optimus Prime, one of only two who turns into a fire truck.
O rly?

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Sure looks like it would be "good enough for Hasbro" to me. ;)

Anyway, it's already been confirmed to be a fan custom, so all this talk is moot anyway.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:20 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
That Bot wrote:They didn't label Sky Byte as being from RID, they don't have to label this. Just call it some form of Optimus Prime. I mean, it's not happening, but that's what I would do.
That was a year ago. The current RID series wasn't around back then.

That Bot wrote:"Any" optimus prime, maybe, but not THIS Optimus Prime, one of only two who turns into a fire truck.
O rly?

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Sure looks like it would be "good enough for Hasbro" to me. ;)

Anyway, it's already been confirmed to be a fan custom, so all this talk is moot anyway.


Aw man, I would'a killed to get that head instead of defensors ugly mug =P~
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