Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread
Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread
Posted by Lockdownhunter Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:42 pm
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread
Posted by Emerje Sat Jan 10, 2015 12:45 am
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Optimizzy wrote:.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Emerje wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Takara never made any new molds for their counterpart lines to Hasbro's Classics, Universe, and Generations lines (Henkei! Henkei!, United, Generations, and Legends all used existing molds).OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Takara's Superion would be much better. When it comes to paint and details most likely. Plus, I think Takara may make their own combiners. How about a Dinoking?
Not new molds, but they have done remolds like Ratbat and Cloud Brawn so maybe an entirely new figure is out of the question, but remolding an existing jet isn't.
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Ratbat and Cloud Brawn are both based on pre-existing tooling that originally went unused: Ratbat used the Gen. Scourge mold's alternate head (alternate meaning it's "built into the mold" like the regular head), and Brawn is based on the canceled "GDO" release.
Was scourge the. Designed to be re-tooled into rat bat and at some point it was canceled stateside?
We can only assume those were the original plans. Like many pretools (pre-planned retools), the alternate head was visible in the original's instructions, in this case Scourge's, but ultimately not used. Nowadays a good majority of molds have alternate parts, making the overall process more efficient.
I'd give a total list, but it's really long.
So what you're saying is that there's a possibility of the Firefly mold including a proper Slingshot head mold.
I didn't realize the Ratbat head appeared in the directions for Scourge. I don't read instructions.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread
Posted by Sabrblade Sat Jan 10, 2015 12:53 am
Straight from Scourge's instructions.Emerje wrote:I didn't realize the Ratbat head appeared in the directions for Scourge. I don't read instructions.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread
Posted by SkyWarpt Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:51 am
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I just need Silverbolt...
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:43 am
Emerje wrote:So what you're saying is that there's a possibility of the Firefly mold including a proper Slingshot head mold.
Basically, yes. Now that you mention it, I wouldn't be surprised if, given the G1 Aerialbot limbs all transform the same way, we'll end up with two pairs of pretools: Skydive with Air Raid, and Firefly with Slingshot/Quickslinger/the dead one. Firefly using the Harrier instead of his regular F-4 Phantom form (similar as they are) leads to some credence to that. All he'd need is some new wings and a new head.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread
Posted by Tsutsukakushi Sat Jan 10, 2015 12:24 pm
Remember seeing pics of CW Powerglide and maybe pics of CW Bombshell with 3rd targetmasters modes.
Just wondering if CW Legends Thundercracker and CW Legends Windcharger also have 3rd Targetmasters modes or not.
Also wondering if all future CW Legends waves with have toys with 3rd Targetmasters modes or not.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread
Posted by Sabrblade Sat Jan 10, 2015 12:26 pm
Powerglide does. Bombshell can be configured into one, whether it's official or not. Thundercracker and Windcharger are preexisting molds that do not.Tsutsukakushi wrote:Do all the CW wave One legends toys have a 3rd alternate Targetmasters mode?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread
Posted by Syn_13 Sat Jan 10, 2015 12:28 pm
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Do all the CW wave One legends toys have a 3rd alternate Targetmasters mode?
Remember seeing pics of CW Powerglide and maybe pics of CW Bombshell with 3rd targetmasters modes.
Just wondering if CW Legends Thundercracker and CW Legends Cliffjumper also have 3rd Targetmasters modes or not.
Also wondering if all future CW Legends waves with have toys with 3rd Targetmasters modes or not.
I don't think Bombshell has a 3rd mode. Unless I've totally missed it!
And I take it you mean Windcharger? Don't have him but I don't think he has a 3rd mode either. I think it's only Powerglide.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread
Posted by Tsutsukakushi Sat Jan 10, 2015 12:34 pm
Sabrblade wrote:Powerglide does. Bombshell can be configured into one, whether it's official or not. Thundercracker and Windcharger are preexisting molds that do not.Tsutsukakushi wrote:Do all the CW wave One legends toys have a 3rd alternate Targetmasters mode?
Thanks for the info, Been wondering this answer for while. Should have posted this reply weeks ago.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread
Posted by Sabrblade Sat Jan 10, 2015 12:37 pm
The upcoming blackjack will become Menasor's chestplate, so those that have third modes are less "Targetmaster" modes and more "Combiner Accessory" modes.Tsutsukakushi wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Powerglide does. Bombshell can be configured into one, whether it's official or not. Thundercracker and Windcharger are preexisting molds that do not.Tsutsukakushi wrote:Do all the CW wave One legends toys have a 3rd alternate Targetmasters mode?
Thanks for the info, Been wondering this answer for while. Should have posted this reply weeks ago.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat Sat Jan 10, 2015 1:32 pm
Sabrblade wrote:The upcoming blackjack will become Menasor's chestplate, so those that have third modes are less "Targetmaster" modes and more "Combiner Accessory" modes.Tsutsukakushi wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Powerglide does. Bombshell can be configured into one, whether it's official or not. Thundercracker and Windcharger are preexisting molds that do not.Tsutsukakushi wrote:Do all the CW wave One legends toys have a 3rd alternate Targetmasters mode?
Thanks for the info, Been wondering this answer for while. Should have posted this reply weeks ago.
The ones that have official third modes are called out as such on their packaging: "Combine to form". Compare Bombshell:

with Autobot Powerglide:

With that, the images with the Legends on Optimus Prime's chest are just people fooling around. The Japanese are especially known for that.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread
Posted by william-james88 Sat Jan 10, 2015 2:32 pm
Sabrblade wrote:Powerglide does. Bombshell can be configured into one, whether it's official or not. Thundercracker and Windcharger are preexisting molds that do not.Tsutsukakushi wrote:Do all the CW wave One legends toys have a 3rd alternate Targetmasters mode?
But both thundercracker and windcharger can be attached to the torso made by the Optimus/Motormaster mold, though tat is not official.

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread
Posted by william-james88 Sat Jan 10, 2015 2:32 pm
Sabrblade wrote:Powerglide does. Bombshell can be configured into one, whether it's official or not. Thundercracker and Windcharger are preexisting molds that do not.Tsutsukakushi wrote:Do all the CW wave One legends toys have a 3rd alternate Targetmasters mode?
But both thundercracker and windcharger can be attached to the torso made by the Optimus/Motormaster mold, though tat is not official.

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread
Posted by Agamemnon Sat Jan 10, 2015 2:52 pm
Or maybe we'll see something in the Motormaster instructions...
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:01 pm
Agamemnon wrote:Or maybe we'll see something in the Motormaster instructions...
Nope, Superion has Powerglide, Menasor has Blackjack. Bombshell is stand-alone for now despite being a new mold.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread
Posted by Sabrblade Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:19 am
Note: We know the Platinum Edition Insections set is real, at least.I couldn't see any data regarding this in this thread so, from a friend that works at TRU in Canada:
Transformers Generations Devastator
List price $179.99 (Canadian)
SKU 198274
So looks like Devy may be titan class after all? (or just smaller and given an outrageous markup )
He said there was also a listing for the Insecticons as a platinum set for $99.99 (good grief)
Also, $180 Canadian dollars is roughly $150 U.S. dollars.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread
Posted by Mindmaster Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:21 am
Sabrblade wrote:New development on the Devastator rumor.Note: We know the Platinum Edition Insections set is real, at least.I couldn't see any data regarding this in this thread so, from a friend that works at TRU in Canada:
Transformers Generations Devastator
List price $179.99 (Canadian)
SKU 198274
So looks like Devy may be titan class after all? (or just smaller and given an outrageous markup )
He said there was also a listing for the Insecticons as a platinum set for $99.99 (good grief)
Also, $180 Canadian dollars is roughly $150 U.S. dollars.
We're aware of this, but are currently trying to use our own resources to confirm this.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread
Posted by Sabrblade Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:24 am
Got it.Mindmaster wrote:We're aware of this, but are currently trying to use our own resources to confirm this.![]()
Not asking for a news post (since I don't recall the original Devastator rumor getting one), just helping to keep us up-to-date on the rumormill.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread
Posted by Emerje Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:55 am
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I have an update on Devastator. Besides the 6 voyagers Takara will release each member individually as a MP figure since they're going to be MP car size.
Ouch, that would mean roughly US$300 for the set, more or less depending on who you buy from. I'll take my chances with Hasbro even if I have a pretty low success rate getting exclusives I want from TRU.
On the other hand, US$150 seems a little too good for Hasbro at US$25 a figure. I'll believe it when I see it, but I have a feeling they'll be the same as the Canadian price.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread
Posted by wilcosu35 Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:49 am
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I have an update on Devastator. Besides the 6 voyagers Takara will release each member individually as a MP figure since they're going to be MP car size.
ehm, so generations figures in the MP line? or are they going to be actual MP's ? because there's a big difference in aesthetics and details between those 2 lines.
do note, i would buy an actual MP devastator in a heartbeat.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread
Posted by Va'al Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:54 am
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I have an update on Devastator. Besides the 6 voyagers Takara will release each member individually as a MP figure since they're going to be MP car size.
Do we have a confirmed source or, in case of anonymity, reliability records?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:32 am
Va'al wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:I have an update on Devastator. Besides the 6 voyagers Takara will release each member individually as a MP figure since they're going to be MP car size.
Do we have a confirmed source or, in case of anonymity, reliability records?
I'd take it with a big grain of salt: such "rumors" are nothing more but escalated expectations.
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