The Energon Pub

[Tsutsukakushi]

Thanks for the Video review link. It's always great seeing a toy in action and getting a review.

G Leader Megatron looks more articulated than G Leader Jetfire. Think if the waist plate piece is un-tabed and pushed out a bit, the legs will get more forward movement.

Saw pics of the tank threads on the robot back posed differently. Prefer to pose the tank threads flattened out to the sides on the robot back.

Think since the robot wrist rotate. It's going to be easier for a 3rd party to create Replacement hands with fully articulated fingers.

Speculating MP-09 in that video did not have his hips extended into Rodimus Prime Robot height. The Legs hips were transformed and shortened for the Hotrod smaller robot mode. That's why G Leader Megatron and MP-09 were the same robot height of Nine inces tall. MP-09 is 9.5 inches tall with the hips extended for the taller Rodimus Prime robot mode.

Still don't like the big rectangular gap in the robot chest. Makes Megatron look like he's wearing a vest. Suppose a 3rd party or shapeways guy can easily create a gap filler part for the chest.

[shajaki]

Are those your pics? The cannon's on backwards and not retracted.

nope. same source as one of the previous sets of pics we got.

[CrankyOldTruck]

I'll go out on a limb here and be one of the few in the camp of people that would turn this figure down. I'm not digging the size range AT ALL compared to the other figures, I hate the shiny silver (just looks stupid on a military based vehicle) and regardless of which direction the cannon is turned in robot mode it does a great disservice to the character. They gave it a valiant effort but they just screwed it all up where it really counts. As with so much stuff in this CW line, a few moments of extra thought put into what they were really doing would have made this figure so much better. This line is turning into just as much FAIL as their previous lines and for the stupidest of reasons. For so much hype going into this new series I would expect better but instead Hasbro is stuck in their usual rut of bad decisions. It's not that I'm being hyper-critical, I've found a fair amount of stuff in this line that has almost impressed me and that I'll actually buy, I'm just still feeling a lot more disappointment than I figured I would when news of this line came out.

[Cobotron]

BOOM!
Thanks magic man. He is a big ol' boy! I'm liking this. Prime is gonna have to work even harder to get the job done now. I like that optional tank-tread-back-pack-flippy look better than straight, as seen in the video.

[Cobotron]

BOOM!

Just gonna go ahead and push this to this page.

[shajaki]

....It's not that I'm being hyper-critical....

[Wolfman Jake]

I don't think the remedy to the scale issue between Leader Megatron and Voyager Classics or CW Prime is to make a smaller Megatron, but to give us a bigger Optimus. I want a supreme size version, scaled so Optimus comes up about a head shorter than Megatron, and put the rest of the plastic budget into a proper Classics trailer. Maybe in another few years?

[Shockwave7]

Looking forward to leader Megatron here Glad they kept him accurate (more or less) to G1. Should make both G1 and G2 fans happy.

[remmolacha]

Does he combines??

[Sabrblade]

Does he combines??

No. Only Deluxes, Voyagers, and select Legends do. Not Leaders.

[-Kanrabat-]

good video what is wind noise in video allready knew what articluation was by looking at pictures

Iphone voice recognition aps. STAAAAAP.

[megatronus]

I don't think the remedy to the scale issue between Leader Megatron and Voyager Classics or CW Prime is to make a smaller Megatron, but to give us a bigger Optimus. I want a supreme size version, scaled so Optimus comes up about a head shorter than Megatron, and put the rest of the plastic budget into a proper Classics trailer. Maybe in another few years?

I'm of the opposite opinion - I could use a smaller Megatron. Perhaps a large voyager. That makes the most sense given all the deluxe/voyager Generations-style figures we've gotten over the last 10 or so years.

That said, I would like a nice big Generations Optimus, too.

[Tsutsukakushi]

I don't think the remedy to the scale issue between Leader Megatron and Voyager Classics or CW Prime is to make a smaller Megatron, but to give us a bigger Optimus. I want a supreme size version, scaled so Optimus comes up about a head shorter than Megatron, and put the rest of the plastic budget into a proper Classics trailer. Maybe in another few years?

I'm of the opposite opinion - I could use a smaller Megatron. Perhaps a large voyager. That makes the most sense given all the deluxe/voyager Generations-style figures we've gotten over the last 10 or so years.

That said, I would like a nice big Generations Optimus, too.

Think if HasTak or a 3rd party created Trailer armor that CW Voyager Optimus and Motormaster could combine with. That had the trailer parts attach to the combiner ports on the arms and legs. This might make a slew of fans happy.

[It Is Him]

Looks good in the video. The shin plates that slide down when you flip the foot, are a nice touch. The proportions look fine, and man, is he shiny! Would like to see him next to Classics and CW Prime.

BOOM!

Now I wonder if combined mode optimus Maximus or whatever will tower over Megatron. I was hoping they'd stand toe to toe, but that seems unlikely

[Sabrblade]

Now I wonder if combined mode optimus Maximus or whatever will tower over Megatron. I was hoping they'd stand toe to toe, but that seems unlikely

The Combiners are much bigger than Megatron.

[Nemesis Maximo]

I'd like to share something my brother revealed to me; I hope this hasn't been posted already, but I'm too lazy to read the entire backlog of this thread.

Re: Voyager Silverbolt, with the fact that Superion's antennae are made of soft plastic, and with how they fold down when SB is in robot mode, they are certainly in an odd place.

Silverbolt has nipples.

Granted, they're a bit lower than his actual pecs, but now that my bro pointed that out to me, I can't pick up SB without chuckling.

[SkyWarpt]

I'd like to share something my brother revealed to me; I hope this hasn't been posted already, but I'm too lazy to read the entire backlog of this thread.

Re: Voyager Silverbolt, with the fact that Superion's antennae are made of soft plastic, and with how they fold down when SB is in robot mode, they are certainly in an odd place.

Silverbolt has nipples.

Granted, they're a bit lower than his actual pecs, but now that my bro pointed that out to me, I can't pick up SB without chuckling.

Eew...they are all droopy

[-Kanrabat-]

I'd like to share something my brother revealed to me; I hope this hasn't been posted already, but I'm too lazy to read the entire backlog of this thread.

Re: Voyager Silverbolt, with the fact that Superion's antennae are made of soft plastic, and with how they fold down when SB is in robot mode, they are certainly in an odd place.

Silverbolt has nipples.

Granted, they're a bit lower than his actual pecs, but now that my bro pointed that out to me, I can't pick up SB without chuckling.

Eew...they are all droopy

Optimus and Motormaster have nipples too. Hard and erect nipples. They also flash them at you by oppening their "shirts".

Sweet dreams!

[Shockwave7]

This is a small instance that I was able to observe directly over this very weekend. But I'm sure that it is widespread, and it is therefore something that Hasbro should take note of.

Several Combiner Wars figures turned up at our local wal-mart this week. The Legion figures and Voyager figures from Wave1. This included 2 Silverbolt voyager figures, and 3 Optimus Prime voyager figures. I quickly snagged the two Bombshell figures and a Powerglide. But I had no interest in Silverbolt or Optimus (since I am waiting for the Stunticons to collect Menasor instead). I left all the other figures on the shelf.

That was Friday evening, when the figures were first put out. I checked Wal-mart again late on Sunday, just to see if they had put out any of the Deluxe figures (since I am on the hunt for Dragstrip). Almost all of the Legion figures were gone. All of the Silverbolt figures were gone.

But NONE (count it - NONE) of the Optimus Prime figures had been sold. Not a one. And I predict that the OP figures will move very slowly, if they move at all. Why is this? Because the market for Optimus figures has been well and very thoroughly saturated. There are tons of Optimus figures out there, and everybody who wanted an Optimus figure already has one.

I would add parenthetically that Bumblebee should be included here. He may not be in the CW line (yet), but Hasbro has clotted the market with enough Bumblebee figures, repaints, retools and remolds to sink an aircraft carrier. There's a reason why the Bumblebee figures and Optimus figures are usually the last ones to be sold, and it's because Hasbro has relied too heavily on them to the point where the casual buyer just doesn't WANT them anymore. A normal buyer going into the store, and seeing a whole mess of new Bumblebee and Optimus figures isn't going to go all doe-eyed and sigh, 'At last! MORE of these figures for me to buy!' They're going to shake their heads and wince, and say, 'Oh great. More of THESE figures. Like I haven't got enough already?'

It's an easy choice to leave these on the shelf for the newer figures that we DON'T have yet. Sure, there are people who are aficionados, and who will buy any Bee or Optimus figure that Hasbro waves under their nose. But not enough of them to merit the colossal number of the same characters they are constantly cranking out.

So pay attention here, Hasbro. It's a phenomenon that you ought to take note of very seriously. I observed it directly, and experienced it directly. Has anyone else?

[peaces]

nope. we haven't gotten the voyagers here yet.

[william-james88]

This is a small instance that I was able to observe directly over this very weekend. But I'm sure that it is widespread, and it is therefore something that Hasbro should take note of.

Several Combiner Wars figures turned up at our local wal-mart this week. The Legion figures and Voyager figures from Wave1. This included 2 Silverbolt voyager figures, and 3 Optimus Prime voyager figures. I quickly snagged the two Bombshell figures and a Powerglide. But I had no interest in Silverbolt or Optimus (since I am waiting for the Stunticons to collect Menasor instead). I left all the other figures on the shelf.

That was Friday evening, when the figures were first put out. I checked Wal-mart again late on Sunday, just to see if they had put out any of the Deluxe figures (since I am on the hunt for Dragstrip). Almost all of the Legion figures were gone. All of the Silverbolt figures were gone.

But NONE (count it - NONE) of the Optimus Prime figures had been sold. Not a one. And I predict that the OP figures will move very slowly, if they move at all. Why is this? Because the market for Optimus figures has been well and very thoroughly saturated. There are tons of Optimus figures out there, and everybody who wanted an Optimus figure already has one.

I would add parenthetically that Bumblebee should be included here. He may not be in the CW line (yet), but Hasbro has clotted the market with enough Bumblebee figures, repaints, retools and remolds to sink an aircraft carrier. There's a reason why the Bumblebee figures and Optimus figures are usually the last ones to be sold, and it's because Hasbro has relied too heavily on them to the point where the casual buyer just doesn't WANT them anymore. A normal buyer going into the store, and seeing a whole mess of new Bumblebee and Optimus figures isn't going to go all doe-eyed and sigh, 'At last! MORE of these figures for me to buy!' They're going to shake their heads and wince, and say, 'Oh great. More of THESE figures. Like I haven't got enough already?'

It's an easy choice to leave these on the shelf for the newer figures that we DON'T have yet. Sure, there are people who are aficionados, and who will buy any Bee or Optimus figure that Hasbro waves under their nose. But not enough of them to merit the colossal number of the same characters they are constantly cranking out.

So pay attention here, Hasbro. It's a phenomenon that you ought to take note of very seriously. I observed it directly, and experienced it directly. Has anyone else?

I hear you, but we also thought that there were always way too many Autobots available per Decepticon (both Bumblebee and Optimus being autobots helps that) and yet every fan poll thus far has resulted in the masses asking for more autobots. I think in your case, the collectors got the silverbolts but the masses will eventually buy those optimuses. I still remember the week before Christmas when I went to toysrus and saw all the parents stripping the shelves of the smash and change optimus which until that point had been shelfwarming. I really think what you mentioned is more a case of two portions of the market and their buying tendencies rather than Optimus being less of a selling point than he used to be.

There's a reason he can't stay dead.

[Syn_13]

Looks good in the video. The shin plates that slide down when you flip the foot, are a nice touch. The proportions look fine, and man, is he shiny! Would like to see him next to Classics and CW Prime.

BOOM!

Well, Leader Megs looks as awesome as I expected. Unfortunately, he's as tall as I expected. Too big for my Classics (looks like he's taking his boy to the park!), and too small for my MP Prime.

I'm gutted. Such a cool looking figure.

[Cobotron]

Are the "masses" we are speaking of children? Must be. Just imagine a 7 year old boy getting his first Transformer for the first time. You think he wants Dragstrip, or the heroic leader of the Autobots? Hasbro spends plenty of money on market research. They know what they are doing.

I personally have a pretty strict "don't over Prime" rule. But, I have been doing this for almost 20 years. That being said, I will have CW Prime because I have been dreaming of a OP who could combine since I was a 7 year old boy. (well more like 10)

The dagblasted Voyagers still haven't landed in my town yet.

[KnightAero]

It definitely is clear -

Autobot fans outweigh Decepticon Fans... But what seems to be more true... Decepticon fans are more loyal...
(I say that because I am one!) Fan polls are definitely killing our opportunity for Fans choice Decepticons!

Id like to see other Autobot leadership step up, even the return of Rodimus... Even though he kind of annoys me.

What is more interesting is seeing what warms the shelves. As it is right now my local stores are warming with Voyager Generations, a few AOE's... AOE Leader Gridlock...

Even MP Sunstorm still on the shelves with Starscream sitting right next to him!

Seems to me with this Trucker Strike, and then seemingly the lines are lagging just a bit behind... Which is surprising as the AOE line launched perfectly for the most part... I suppose they learned from Dark of the Moon a good bit...

[KnightAero]

Brilliant! "Don't Over Prime"

Going to have to add that to my rules...

Are the "masses" we are speaking of children? Must be. Just imagine a 7 year old boy getting his first Transformer for the first time. You think he wants Dragstrip, or the heroic leader of the Autobots? Hasbro spends plenty of money on market research. They know what they are doing.

I personally have a pretty strict "don't over Prime" rule. But, I have been doing this for almost 20 years. That being said, I will have CW Prime because I have been dreaming of a OP who could combine since I was a 7 year old boy. (well more like 10)

The dagblasted Voyagers still haven't landed in my town yet.