The Energon Pub

[Neurie]

The limbs are:
Ironhide:Offroad
Mirage:dragstrip
Prowl:Streetwise
Sunstreaker:Breakdown

[Zeedust]

Hey, yeah I really did like their Trailbreaker/Hoist... but putting them in with the other Classics bots like Jazz, etc. they look miniscule... Bumblebee dwarfs their vehicle mode. I know it was part of some cost cutting measures at the time, but it's a huge bummer that they don't scale well.

And yeah, of course! Feel free to repost. Hoping I don't think of any others. Those were just off the top of my head. Heh.

We also need Skylynx, and Elita 1! And MOONRACER! AND THE REST OF THE DINOBOTS!

There's also a metric buttload of post-G1 characters waiting to be shown some love, but nobody cares about them.

[Cobotron]

If you scroll up a bit, I was lavishing praise on the CW line, including its G1 Ark Autobots. I'm trying to provide some very specific constructive input. I do agree too many people are negative, but I hope you aren't lumping me in with those trolls.

Never Goth.

[Bradimus]

I'm totally okay with fenrir72 jumping in with some comparisons as a way to take part. Makes me re-think stuff with CW. Very interesting seeing the two together, always.

Cheers, everyone. Fun conversation we have here today.

And another thing. A bit of imagination working here, but iirc, in Japan, their "Scramble City" schtick, when you mix and match the limbs, you are supposed to get different outputs for the teams. Like, putting Dragstrip and the like who have top speed abilities on the feet makes menasor move faster or vice versa on the arms gives him a multi hit fast punching ability.

Maybe that can meld in with the current fiction?

I like that!

Wonder who'd do what. I'd think Offroad would provide sue footing on treacherous terrain as a leg, and a powerful grip (useful both for climbing and for crushing Autobot armor) as ana rm.

Perhaps the chest plates could have a effect too, beyond just being extra armor, like Blackjack 's cool head and strategic mind ease the mental integration of the Stunticons and give Menasor some small measure of mental clarity.

Interesting way do look at the CW line! I think this is a great idea!

Thanks!

...Obviously, Powerglide and Viper would be fairly standard Targetmasters.

Hmm...

Is it possible that certain members might bring drawbacks as well a strengths? For example, Rook likely is heavily armored, and Defensor might thus be slowed down by the abnormal weight of that leg.

Well shish kebab! It's like I don't exist around he sometimes. I go and post a response to this very idea back on page 290 and three pages later... nothing. It's like I never wrote it at all.

I must be Mirage with my invisibility cloak stuck in the on position.

[Zeedust]

Well shish kebab! It's like I don't exist around he sometimes. I go and post a response to this very idea back on page 290 and three pages later... nothing. It's like I never wrote it at all.

I must be Mirage with my invisibility cloak stuck in the on position.

They actually did that for Shattered Glass Mirage. I have no idea why.

But yeah, my bad, sorry for not seeing you there.

[Zeedust]

I really hope Hasbro gives us RID Prime (Fire Convoy).

I'd still rather have Smolder.

[Bradimus]

Well shish kebab! It's like I don't exist around he sometimes. I go and post a response to this very idea back on page 290 and three pages later... nothing. It's like I never wrote it at all.

I must be Mirage with my invisibility cloak stuck in the on position.

They actually did that for Shattered Glass Mirage. I have no idea why.

But yeah, my bad, sorry for not seeing you there.

In all seriousness, they do it because they can. And because they know people will eat up whatever they make. Just like Bay.

Just making a statement for laughs, not trying to start a debate, so please don't.

But as I'm invisible around here someone will probably ignore my plea...

[Bradimus]

I really hope Hasbro gives us RID Prime (Fire Convoy).

I'd still rather have Smolder.

I just don't see it from this mold. But anything is possible, right?

[DedicatedGhostArt]

I'm totally okay with fenrir72 jumping in with some comparisons as a way to take part. Makes me re-think stuff with CW. Very interesting seeing the two together, always.

Cheers, everyone. Fun conversation we have here today.

And another thing. A bit of imagination working here, but iirc, in Japan, their "Scramble City" schtick, when you mix and match the limbs, you are supposed to get different outputs for the teams. Like, putting Dragstrip and the like who have top speed abilities on the feet makes menasor move faster or vice versa on the arms gives him a multi hit fast punching ability.

Maybe that can meld in with the current fiction?

I like that!

Wonder who'd do what. I'd think Offroad would provide sue footing on treacherous terrain as a leg, and a powerful grip (useful both for climbing and for crushing Autobot armor) as ana rm.

Perhaps the chest plates could have a effect too, beyond just being extra armor, like Blackjack 's cool head and strategic mind ease the mental integration of the Stunticons and give Menasor some small measure of mental clarity.

Interesting way do look at the CW line! I think this is a great idea!

Thanks!

...Obviously, Powerglide and Viper would be fairly standard Targetmasters.

Hmm...

Is it possible that certain members might bring drawbacks as well a strengths? For example, Rook likely is heavily armored, and Defensor might thus be slowed down by the abnormal weight of that leg.

Maybe!

[DedicatedGhostArt]

I'm totally okay with fenrir72 jumping in with some comparisons as a way to take part. Makes me re-think stuff with CW. Very interesting seeing the two together, always.

Cheers, everyone. Fun conversation we have here today.

And another thing. A bit of imagination working here, but iirc, in Japan, their "Scramble City" schtick, when you mix and match the limbs, you are supposed to get different outputs for the teams. Like, putting Dragstrip and the like who have top speed abilities on the feet makes menasor move faster or vice versa on the arms gives him a multi hit fast punching ability.

Maybe that can meld in with the current fiction?

I like that!

Wonder who'd do what. I'd think Offroad would provide sue footing on treacherous terrain as a leg, and a powerful grip (useful both for climbing and for crushing Autobot armor) as ana rm.

Perhaps the chest plates could have a effect too, beyond just being extra armor, like Blackjack 's cool head and strategic mind ease the mental integration of the Stunticons and give Menasor some small measure of mental clarity.

Interesting way do look at the CW line! I think this is a great idea!

Thanks!

...Obviously, Powerglide and Viper would be fairly standard Targetmasters.

Hmm...

Is it possible that certain members might bring drawbacks as well a strengths? For example, Rook likely is heavily armored, and Defensor might thus be slowed down by the abnormal weight of that leg.

Well shish kebab! It's like I don't exist around he sometimes. I go and post a response to this very idea back on page 290 and three pages later... nothing. It's like I never wrote it at all.

I must be Mirage with my invisibility cloak stuck in the on position.

Lol sorry Bradimus.

[Bradimus]

Lol sorry Bradimus.

Yeah, I'm just going to go ahead and quote my post and hopefully that will turn off my cloak.

So this is what I posted way back when:

I remember reading on tfwiki about the different abilities each combiner gets with different configurations but I'm too lazy to look it up right now.

I have CW Superion and when I do combine him I either go with the standard mode or what I like to call brute force mode.

Standard is RA Firefly, LA Alpha Bravo (I might get Quickslinger), RL Skydive, LL Air Raid.

Skydive and Air Raid are bulkier as legs so I think of standard mode as Superion being strong on his feet with powerful leg boosters and good with the rifle. Also, a kick in this mode will put his opponent down, followed by the stomp of doom.

Brute force mode swaps the arms with the legs, so Superion sort of "Hulks up" and becomes a bruiser with Skydive and Air Raid as the right and left arms respectively and Firefly and Alpha Bravo as the right and left legs respectively. I like to store the rifle on Superion's back as this mode is for boxing. The thinner legs provide increased agility but don't have the same thrust for flight. And while his kicks are quicker, they don't have the same force behind them to put an opponent down for good. But his one-two punch is good night and good luck.

I have no idea if that is inline with the actual cannon, I'm just basing this on how Superion looks to me.

I'm totally okay with fenrir72 jumping in with some comparisons as a way to take part. Makes me re-think stuff with CW. Very interesting seeing the two together, always.

Cheers, everyone. Fun conversation we have here today.

And another thing. A bit of imagination working here, but iirc, in Japan, their "Scramble City" schtick, when you mix and match the limbs, you are supposed to get different outputs for the teams. Like, putting Dragstrip and the like who have top speed abilities on the feet makes menasor move faster or vice versa on the arms gives him a multi hit fast punching ability.

Maybe that can meld in with the current fiction?

I like that!

Wonder who'd do what. I'd think Offroad would provide sue footing on treacherous terrain as a leg, and a powerful grip (useful both for climbing and for crushing Autobot armor) as ana rm.

Perhaps the chest plates could have a effect too, beyond just being extra armor, like Blackjack 's cool head and strategic mind ease the mental integration of the Stunticons and give Menasor some small measure of mental clarity.

Interesting way do look at the CW line! I think this is a great idea!

Thanks!

...Obviously, Powerglide and Viper would be fairly standard Targetmasters.

Hmm...

Is it possible that certain members might bring drawbacks as well a strengths? For example, Rook likely is heavily armored, and Defensor might thus be slowed down by the abnormal weight of that leg.

I would think every formation is a double edged sword. Again using Superion and my preferred configurations, Standard form with the lightweights as arms and the heavies as legs means he would not fair well in a fist fight with Defensor, who looks like a bruiser no matter how he's configured. On the other hand, in Brute force mode with the heavies up top and the lightweights as legs, Superion has a knockout punch. But if Defensor goes for the legs enough Superion could go down and find himself getting torn limb from limb.

[DedicatedGhostArt]

Nerd lol

[Bradimus]

Nerd lol

Aren't we all?

[shajaki]

Nerd lol

HA!

[DedicatedGhostArt]

Lol sorry Bradimus.

Yeah, I'm just going to go ahead and quote my post and hopefully that will turn off my cloak.

So this is what I posted way back when:

I remember reading on tfwiki about the different abilities each combiner gets with different configurations but I'm too lazy to look it up right now.

I have CW Superion and when I do combine him I either go with the standard mode or what I like to call brute force mode.

Standard is RA Firefly, LA Alpha Bravo (I might get Quickslinger), RL Skydive, LL Air Raid.

Skydive and Air Raid are bulkier as legs so I think of standard mode as Superion being strong on his feet with powerful leg boosters and good with the rifle. Also, a kick in this mode will put his opponent down, followed by the stomp of doom.

Brute force mode swaps the arms with the legs, so Superion sort of "Hulks up" and becomes a bruiser with Skydive and Air Raid as the right and left arms respectively and Firefly and Alpha Bravo as the right and left legs respectively. I like to store the rifle on Superion's back as this mode is for boxing. The thinner legs provide increased agility but don't have the same thrust for flight. And while his kicks are quicker, they don't have the same force behind them to put an opponent down for good. But his one-two punch is good night and good luck.

I have no idea if that is inline with the actual cannon, I'm just basing this on how Superion looks to me.

Lol you just keep on having fun!

[DedicatedGhostArt]

Nerd lol

HA!

[Bradimus]

Lol you just keep on having fun!

Darn right I will!

[DedicatedGhostArt]

Lol you just keep on having fun!

Darn right I will!

Lol

[DedicatedGhostArt]

Man! How do I delete comments! I messed those up!

[Agamemnon]

Man! How do I delete comments! I messed those up!

Can't delete, but you can edit...

[shajaki]

Man! How do I delete comments! I messed those up!

Fix'd

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Nerd lol

Aren't we all?

Most of us are. Then there are the Geeks

[DedicatedGhostArt]

Man! How do I delete comments! I messed those up!

Fix'd

Thank you!

[DedicatedGhostArt]

Nerd lol

Aren't we all?

Most of us are. Then there are the Geeks

I may not be a nerd, but I am TOTALLY a geek!

[MaverickPrime]

Yup, this seals it, he js coming, hopefully more characters will get new combiner bodies! Makes me wonder why we are ginna get Hot Rod out of Blackjack, Bumblebee makes much more sense, not to mention that Hot Rod deserves a Deluxe! Now more than ever for his part in MTMTE!