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It would be a crime to spend an extra 2 bucks on something we love, wouldnt it ? Im sure they will all end up in TJ Maxx and Ross for those who dont think they are worth full price. I see it like this...The mere existance of TF Prime is saving me hundreds of dollars. I havent been to a toy section of a store in months.

TimothyR wrote:but the economy right now is so bad, that it's even more difficult to swallow the price of something that costs more, but is a smaller product.

if they're going to raise the price.. keep the toy the same size, if you're going to shrink the toy, shrink the price too.

plus, i'm pretty sure that toys today are a hell of a lot easier to make than they were way back when.

The way I see it, they're striking a middle ground. For $10, you can get a Cyberverse Commander where you used to be able to get a deluxe. To get a Deluxe at the size we're used to would cost probably $18-20. (Honestly I think it's a miracle Target and Wal Mart give us VOYAGERS at that price still) So to keep from charging an exorbitant amount, they raise the price SOME and shrink the figure SOME to get a $15 figure. It ain't pretty, but $15 ain't what it used to be, either. Time marches on, the value of the dollar shrinks, and the price of goods and services rises. Not much to do but suck it up or stop buying.

Agreed and disagreed. The mere existence of TF Prime saved 'me' money, and cost 'me' money (depends on how you see it). I haven't been to toy aisles for over 3 months. I have never been this disappointed in a TF line since animated. On the other hand, I've been online a lot lately completing my Masterpiece and Binaltech collections. Man, they're expensive. But again, I'd rather spend money on one great figure than on ten crappy prime toys. Of course, that's my opinnion.

Wow some of you Americans are bunch of whiny bishes arent you? So the price increase to 15 dollars big whoop. For my country we have to pay 19 frickin dollars per deluxe ever since 5 years ago. You dont see me whining at every single transformers toy forum did you? So STFU and deal with it. You should consider you're lucky cause just the deluxe increased abit. Here's how transformers cost in my country :-

1) Legends - US : 5$ MY : 8$.
2) Commanders - US : 8$ MY : 16$.
3) Deluxes - US : 14~15$ MY : 19$.
4) Voyagers - US : 22$ MY : 39$
5) Leaders - US : 45$ MY : 75$.

So yeah STFU you whiny Americans. I'm doing just fine collecting TFs with the ridiculous price increase here in my country for more than 3 years. Just consider yourself lucky alright cause if I were at your country? I could have increase my TF collection by 2 times the amount.

PS : And to those who ask, no I'm not rich. I'm only a teenager who get like 35$ a month and I live in a normal 2-floor house with my family.

CrimsonPrime wrote:Wow some of you Americans are bunch of whiny bishes arent you? So the price increase to 15 dollars big whoop. For my country we have to pay 19 frickin dollars per deluxe ever since 5 years ago. You dont see me whining at every single transformers toy forum did you? So STFU and deal with it. You should consider you're lucky cause just the deluxe increased abit. Here's how transformers cost in my country :-

1) Legends - US : 5$ MY : 8$.
2) Commanders - US : 8$ MY : 16$.
3) Deluxes - US : 14~15$ MY : 19$.
4) Voyagers - US : 22$ MY : 39$
5) Leaders - US : 45$ MY : 75$.

So yeah STFU you whiny Americans. I'm doing just fine collecting TFs with the ridiculous price increase here in my country for more than 3 years. Just consider yourself lucky alright cause if I were at your country? I could have increase my TF collection by 2 times the amount.

PS : And to those who ask, no I'm not rich. I'm only a teenager who get like 35$ a month and I live in a normal 2-floor house with my family.

You're only considering cost, how does the average income in your country compare to the US?

He said he's earning at 35$ a month. Here at my country, I'm like earning 670 USD a month at net and I'm not complaining. That's just life.

CrimsonPrime wrote:Wow some of you Americans are bunch of whiny bishes arent you? So the price increase to 15 dollars big whoop. For my country we have to pay 19 frickin dollars per deluxe ever since 5 years ago. You dont see me whining at every single transformers toy forum did you? (Just right now I'll whine about you whining) So STFU and deal with it. (I'm mature and have 3 whole years collecting guize) You should consider you're lucky cause just the deluxe increased abit (and shrunk, you're lucky). Here's how transformers cost in my country :- (Like we care but here's..........DA MATH)

1) Legends - US : 5$ MY : 8$.
2) Commanders - US : 8$ MY : 16$.
3) Deluxes - US : 14~15$ MY : 19$. Whoopty Friggin doooo, but you're off on half.
4) Voyagers - US : 22$ MY : 39$
5) Leaders - US : 45$ MY : 75$.

So yeah STFU you whiny Americans. I'm doing just fine collecting TFs with the ridiculous price increase here in my country for more than 3 years (3 whole years and know it all, Yeeeeeaaahhh Buuudddyyyy!!!!!). Just consider yourself lucky alright cause if I were at your country? I could have increase my TF collection by 2 times the amount. (Oh no, increase it by 2 times. RUNNNNNN!!!!)

PS : And to those who ask, no I'm not rich (but I'm sure spoiled as hell and act pretty douchey so I know it's hard to tell). I'm only a *SPOILER ALERT* teenager *SPOILER ALERT* who get like 35$ a month and I live in a normal 2-floor house with my family. ( I mooch 35$ off Mommy and Daddy so I know more than any of you dumb Americans who spend that a day usually for sure)

Are you serious with that BS? You can tell you're a little snot teenager for sure. We don't care what you pay for x in x third world country. Get over yourself, Pretentious Prime. No, American consumers don't like paying more for less. Never have, never will and won't unless their that desperate for inferior product. If people here have a problem and stick to their guns and not buy it things COULD change but today's collector just has to have it so probably not. I'm not buying smaller figures for more when I can get better for the same relative amount. Sorry your dollar doesn't stack well against ours but them's the breaks kid, you deal. That's nuts to even try and compare period.

Anyone who actually gets out and WORKS for their money (instead of suckling Mommy and Daddy's teet and spending their allowance lol)doesn't like that and generally doesn't do it if they've got half a brain cell. Maybe you'll get it when you do that, till then the "money not earned but I'll tell you what's what" opinions aren't valid. Try collecting thirty years before you expel your vast knowledge of how it works and what we should deal with, other than your current measly three. I haven't laughed so hard in a while. 35$ won't buy me a half tank of gas. You're ballin son and so "wise" beyond your 3 or five (since you changed it twice) whole TF collecting/price increase suffering years. "STFU you whiny Americans" on an American TF forum, bet that will blow over nicely and get you some fast friends. LMAO

wewyllenium wrote:He said he's earning at 35$ a month. Here at my country, I'm like earning 670 USD a month at net and I'm not complaining. That's just life.

It thrills my soul to know I've spent over a year's worth of The Great Crimson Prime's allowance just in the past week and a half on Transformers. I 'm not rich either by any means. It does feel great to spend hard earned money you WORKED for on your hobby and not be racist/nationalist about it. These FTMP will not be bought unless we get some decent sized guys like Grimlock.

CrimsonPrime wrote:Wow some of you Americans are bunch of whiny bishes arent you? So the price increase to 15 dollars big whoop. For my country we have to pay 19 frickin dollars per deluxe ever since 5 years ago. You dont see me whining at every single transformers toy forum did you? So STFU and deal with it. You should consider you're lucky cause just the deluxe increased abit. Here's how transformers cost in my country :-

1) Legends - US : 5$ MY : 8$.
2) Commanders - US : 8$ MY : 16$.
3) Deluxes - US : 14~15$ MY : 19$.
4) Voyagers - US : 22$ MY : 39$
5) Leaders - US : 45$ MY : 75$.

So yeah STFU you whiny Americans. I'm doing just fine collecting TFs with the ridiculous price increase here in my country for more than 3 years. Just consider yourself lucky alright cause if I were at your country? I could have increase my TF collection by 2 times the amount.

PS : And to those who ask, no I'm not rich. I'm only a teenager who get like 35$ a month and I live in a normal 2-floor house with my family.

This entire post is out of line. Have a warning on me.

Oh and if anyone else quotes his post and responds to it from now on, they get a warning to. Back on topic NOW.

Aanywho, does anyone else really want to see more of the foc seeker mold? I'm hoping it's at least as tall as the classics mold (which was short anyway).

If these ever appear in the UK, they will probably be £14.99 at least, although at least VAT (equivalent to sales tax) is already factored in, even if it is massively high. This government. I would rather pay £20 for a deluxe sized deluxe, than £15 for an anaemic midget version of one. I wish Hasbro would stop with the shrinkage.

I heard somewhere that the FOC seeker mold would be taller that FOC OP. And FOC OP is taller than the classics seeker mold.

I'm all for quantity. As long as there is something new in the world of TFs (toywise), I'm good.

I am somewhat to surprised to see these in retail already! I figured it would be August before they started popping up, so I am excited about that. The hunt is on!

Does anybody know if Target gets TF's in stock much earlier than other retailers like TRU or Wally World? I'm planning my attack and I'm wondering if it's worth looking at TRU or Wal-Mart yet or if I should stick to Target for the time being.

Thanks for posting this and for providing the item code! Happy hunting!

I for one am really glad to see that this line has been released earlier then planned. I also can't wait to see what the voyager figures look like in hand. All of the pics we have seen so far from this line have made me drool.
I understand that some of us on here are not that impressed, and each is welcome to their valid opinion.

I for one though really like this FOC line so far. If they end up giving us all of the original Dino Bots ( Slag, Snarl, swoop and of course Grimlock) in Voyager size, I just might crap my pants...sorry (TMI)...

Cyberseven wrote:I for one though really like this FOC line so far. If they end up giving us all of the original Dino Bots ( Slag, Snarl, swoop and of course Grimlock) in Voyager size, I just might crap my pants...sorry (TMI)...

Poor Sludge.

Banjo-Tron wrote:If these ever appear in the UK, they will probably be £14.99 at least, although at least VAT (equivalent to sales tax) is already factored in, even if it is massively high. This government. I would rather pay £20 for a deluxe sized deluxe, than £15 for an anaemic midget version of one. I wish Hasbro would stop with the shrinkage.

Not everybody is okay with that, though. A lot of parents are just gonna see "this thing costs 20 pounds? Here, have a Power Ranger instead." So they lower the plastic allotment to keep prices somewhat reasonable.

Ooooh, I am itching to get my hands on Shockwave, yes I am. I may or may not get Prime, and Jazz doesn't do anything for me. But I don't have a Shockwave of any kind in my collection, and this looks like a good one to start with.

Megatron Wolf wrote:so why are these $15 when theyre not bigger or more complicated or have more detail than TFPrime figures? How does hasbro justify the price increase for these guys? Im sorry but im not paying $17(including tax) for a deluxe no matter what its from or who it is. Is this what we get for being loyal to hasbro all these years, smaller figures and outrageous prices? Its one thing to make figures smaller but keep the damn price & quality the same. Alot of people arent willing to pay or cant pay $13 for a prime deluxe what makes them think they'll pay $15 for a generations when theres nothing special about them. The last wave of generations werent even $15 they were $13 and they were bigger & of better quality than DOTM, TFPRIME, this wave of generations and they came out when the economy was **** just like it is now. Sorry about the rant but what hasbros doing is uncalled for and just not fair to consumers especially those who are falling on hard times.

Lol i would pay that much for a character i love from a game thats great.
Wanna hear something worse? the target closest to my house has dotm deluxe jolt for 30$. And mudflap for 16.99. But the tf prime toys are priced right ironically

So glad these are starting to show up!

I remember not too long ago Target (temporarily) bumped prices for DotM Deluxes to $30! Then put them "on sale" for ~$16 IIRC. A mere $2 increase doesn't look so bad compared to that.

Anyways, can't wait to find these guys.

Decided to get OP SW and Jazz from BBTS...Im sick and tired of shoddy distribution and retailers that act stupid when you ask them if they have a product in stock..

LiKwid wrote:Decided to get OP SW and Jazz from BBTS...Im sick and tired of shoddy distribution and retailers that act stupid when you ask them if they have a product in stock..

I have been feeling the same way a bit myself. I bundled FOC Optimus, and Jazz with my Breakdown from BBTS. I didn't add Shockwave just because I am going to try to find him at retail. I figure it will work out, but at least it's just one figure to look for instead of 3.

I also saved myself the pain of finding all 5 figures for FOC Bruticus and just preordered mine, as well as the Amazon set too.

At a certain point the time and gas saved not hunting all over the place makes up for the price difference in most cases.

Cyberseven wrote:

LiKwid wrote:Decided to get OP SW and Jazz from BBTS...Im sick and tired of shoddy distribution and retailers that act stupid when you ask them if they have a product in stock..

I have been feeling the same way a bit myself. I bundled FOC Optimus, and Jazz with my Breakdown from BBTS. I didn't add Shockwave just because I am going to try to find him at retail. I figure it will work out, but at least it's just one figure to look for instead of 3.

I also saved myself the pain of finding all 5 figures for FOC Bruticus and just preordered mine, as well as the Amazon set too.

At a certain point the time and gas saved not hunting all over the place makes up for the price difference in most cases.

I'm seriously considering doing the same. I'm sick of seeing yellow everywhere store i go into.

Doubledealer93 wrote:

Cyberseven wrote:

LiKwid wrote:Decided to get OP SW and Jazz from BBTS...Im sick and tired of shoddy distribution and retailers that act stupid when you ask them if they have a product in stock..

I have been feeling the same way a bit myself. I bundled FOC Optimus, and Jazz with my Breakdown from BBTS. I didn't add Shockwave just because I am going to try to find him at retail. I figure it will work out, but at least it's just one figure to look for instead of 3.

I also saved myself the pain of finding all 5 figures for FOC Bruticus and just preordered mine, as well as the Amazon set too.

At a certain point the time and gas saved not hunting all over the place makes up for the price difference in most cases.

I'm seriously considering doing the same. I'm sick of seeing yellow everywhere store i go into.

I am thinking the same thing. So, for FOC OP, Jazz and Soundwave on BBTS is $47.99 + $8.29 shipping (at least to GA). That comes to a total of $56.28.

If I buy these at Target, Wally World or TRU they will cost $14.99 each plus 7% tax. This total comes to $48.12. This is only a difference of $8.16 which is only $2.72 per figure.

I've already been to 2 Targets, Wal-Mart and TRU. So, this may be worth it to save the time and gas, especially since I have seen no sign of them even making room for the Generations line.

However, part of me does enjoy the hunt, but...

Just picked them up! The two targets in my area that it listed online as having them did! The first target only had Op and Jazz and the 2nd I just asked for two Shockwaves if they had them and the guy brought them out! Yay! I'm sure they probably had more Op and Jazz at the last Target I was at, didn't ask, one the guys said they aren't supposed to be out on the shelf for 2 more weeks, hence the clearance, glad I won't have too look for these guys now, Shockwave is awesome but smaller and they were 14.99 at my Targets too, but to me they were worth it, especially having a classics Shockwave!!!

Starwave Prime wrote:Just picked them up! The two targets in my area that it listed online as having them did! The first target only had Op and Jazz and the 2nd I just asked for two Shockwaves if they had them and the guy brought them out! Yay! I'm sure they probably had more Op and Jazz at the last Target I was at, didn't ask, one the guys said they aren't supposed to be out on the shelf for 2 more weeks, hence the clearance, glad I won't have too look for these guys now, Shockwave is awesome but smaller and they were 14.99 at my Targets too, but to me they were worth it, especially having a classics Shockwave!!!

man you are really making me grind my teeth. i need 2 shockwaves dammit! can you take some size comparison pics for me by any chance with some classics toys?

man you are really making me grind my teeth. i need 2 shockwaves dammit! can you take some size comparison pics for me by any chance with some classics toys?

Sure! I'm only opening one Shockwave and Jazz for now though due to space issues, and my camera is not the greatest, but i could take a few quick shots, anyone in particular?