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Personally, I'm just gonna call the deluxe portion Zarak because I just call Scorponok's deluxe form Scorponok because I tend to lean more towards the Transtector interpretation despite never watching the Headmasters. I hope that Black Zarak's plastic will withstand the test of time though. I know that GPS really hasn't been a MAJOR issue lately, but given the weight of a titan, it does have me kinda worried

Most likely all the gold is painted like on Sky Lynx (which would mean A LOT of paint) or simply not "swirly". We'll see if the gold looks as good on the actual figure.

Emerje

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Emerje wrote:Since they haven't given him a name I'm thinking about making this guy Olin Zarak since he's a pirate and this figure has an eyepatch. That's really all the thought I've put into it.



Emerje

To stay with Masterforce continuity, 1 component of Black Zarak would have to be named Devil Z, right?

I still can't help but think that this middle component's retooling has to be a reference to something. It's too specific to be just something that someone came up with simply because they thought it was cool.

I'm wondering if it's maybe something from the Masterforce manga. I have all three volumes of Viz's G1 manga books, but I haven't yet read Volume 2 or 3 yet. I need to find time to at least read Volume 2 and see what's what with Scorponok/Black Zarak in the manga.

Emerje wrote:Most likely all the gold is painted like on Sky Lynx (which would mean A LOT of paint) or simply not "swirly". We'll see if the gold looks as good on the actual figure.

Emerje

What about the gold plastic used on SS 86 Grimlock's chest. I think Hasbro finally cracked the code for gold there.

william-james88 wrote:

Emerje wrote:Most likely all the gold is painted like on Sky Lynx (which would mean A LOT of paint) or simply not "swirly". We'll see if the gold looks as good on the actual figure.

Emerje

What about the gold plastic used on SS 86 Grimlock's chest. I think Hasbro finally cracked the code for gold there.

I see what you did there.

william-james88 wrote:

Emerje wrote:Most likely all the gold is painted like on Sky Lynx (which would mean A LOT of paint) or simply not "swirly". We'll see if the gold looks as good on the actual figure.

Emerje

What about the gold plastic used on SS 86 Grimlock's chest. I think Hasbro finally cracked the code for gold there.

Is it gold plastic? I thought it was painted?

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Emerje wrote:Most likely all the gold is painted like on Sky Lynx (which would mean A LOT of paint) or simply not "swirly". We'll see if the gold looks as good on the actual figure.

Emerje

What about the gold plastic used on SS 86 Grimlock's chest. I think Hasbro finally cracked the code for gold there.

Is it gold plastic? I thought it was painted?

That's what I thought, too, but I don't feel like taking mine apart to see for sure (not until my upgrade parts show up from China anyway). I do have a little bit of rubbing on the sides of his body from his arms that sort of looks like paint wear, but it isn't deep enough to tell if it's actually paint or plastic.

Emerje

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Emerje wrote:Since they haven't given him a name I'm thinking about making this guy Olin Zarak since he's a pirate and this figure has an eyepatch. That's really all the thought I've put into it.



Emerje

To stay with Masterforce continuity, 1 component of Black Zarak would have to be named Devil Z, right?

I still can't help but think that this middle component's retooling has to be a reference to something. It's too specific to be just something that someone came up with simply because they thought it was cool.

I'm wondering if it's maybe something from the Masterforce manga. I have all three volumes of Viz's G1 manga books, but I haven't yet read Volume 2 or 3 yet. I need to find time to at least read Volume 2 and see what's what with Scorponok/Black Zarak in the manga.

I know o.supreme suggested it could be a reference to Zone, where be reappeared as one of the generals. I second the call for capes.

So, now with the release of Black Zarak, could one get all the 9 generals? And how much would it cost since so many were Titan Class...

ZeroWolf wrote:I know o.supreme suggested it could be a reference to Zone, where be reappeared as one of the generals. I second the call for capes.

So, now with the release of Black Zarak, could one get all the 9 generals? And how much would it cost since so many were Titan Class...

There eyepatch is definitely Zone, just not sure about the battle Damage. As for the Nine Destron Generals, I currently have Eight, and BZ will be the 9th. Getting them at retail price is one thing, getting them now would be quite a destroyer of many people's income... I'll just put the "normal" Price in US Dollars. Personally I prefer UW when possible, but I know the CW versions will be less expensive:

CW Devastator $150
CW Menasor $100
CW Bruticus $100
TR Trypticon $150
TR Overlord $50
PotP Predaking $150
PotP Abominus $110
GS King Poseidon (From Pulse) $250
GS Black Zarak (From Pulse) $170

Total: $1,230

Unfortunately however, if you have none of these, it's going to cost way more since many of them are only available on the secondary market.

Ironic that Overlord has the smallest toy of the bunch, yet he is the group's leader.

Yeah that's more then I thought, given the cost of CW limbs and UW boxes on the after market, I could see it being double that if not more. Quite funny to think that King Posideon would be the most costly of the set

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Emerje wrote:Since they haven't given him a name I'm thinking about making this guy Olin Zarak since he's a pirate and this figure has an eyepatch. That's really all the thought I've put into it.



Emerje

To stay with Masterforce continuity, 1 component of Black Zarak would have to be named Devil Z, right?

I still can't help but think that this middle component's retooling has to be a reference to something. It's too specific to be just something that someone came up with simply because they thought it was cool.

I'm wondering if it's maybe something from the Masterforce manga. I have all three volumes of Viz's G1 manga books, but I haven't yet read Volume 2 or 3 yet. I need to find time to at least read Volume 2 and see what's what with Scorponok/Black Zarak in the manga.

Doesn't the TFWiki have at least a summary? Or do you prefer unfolding a new story 1 detail at a time for maximum effect?

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Emerje wrote:Since they haven't given him a name I'm thinking about making this guy Olin Zarak since he's a pirate and this figure has an eyepatch. That's really all the thought I've put into it.



Emerje

To stay with Masterforce continuity, 1 component of Black Zarak would have to be named Devil Z, right?

I still can't help but think that this middle component's retooling has to be a reference to something. It's too specific to be just something that someone came up with simply because they thought it was cool.

I'm wondering if it's maybe something from the Masterforce manga. I have all three volumes of Viz's G1 manga books, but I haven't yet read Volume 2 or 3 yet. I need to find time to at least read Volume 2 and see what's what with Scorponok/Black Zarak in the manga.

Doesn't the TFWiki have at least a summary? Or do you prefer unfolding a new story 1 detail at a time for maximum effect?

I wanna check the artwork for any visual references.

Sabrblade wrote:Ironic that Overlord has the smallest toy of the bunch, yet he is the group's leader.

I definitely wouldn't be opposed to a CC Overlord at some point in the future, but Since we just got TR Overlord 4 years ago, There are many other characters that still have not had any updates that I would want to see come first.

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Emerje wrote:Since they haven't given him a name I'm thinking about making this guy Olin Zarak since he's a pirate and this figure has an eyepatch. That's really all the thought I've put into it.



Emerje

To stay with Masterforce continuity, 1 component of Black Zarak would have to be named Devil Z, right?

I still can't help but think that this middle component's retooling has to be a reference to something. It's too specific to be just something that someone came up with simply because they thought it was cool.

I'm wondering if it's maybe something from the Masterforce manga. I have all three volumes of Viz's G1 manga books, but I haven't yet read Volume 2 or 3 yet. I need to find time to at least read Volume 2 and see what's what with Scorponok/Black Zarak in the manga.

Doesn't the TFWiki have at least a summary? Or do you prefer unfolding a new story 1 detail at a time for maximum effect?

I wanna check the artwork for any visual references.

The chest may be a subtle reference to how (in typical Dragon Ball fashion) God Ginrai stormed through his chest in his final battle. As for the eye patch, it be a reference to Zone, arrrrrrr.

Also, it's worth noting that according to the Masterforce Special Files, Scorponok (the smaller unit) was directly hardwired inside the Black Zarak body, similar to Cylas in Prime.

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Ironic that Overlord has the smallest toy of the bunch, yet he is the group's leader.

I definitely wouldn't be opposed to a CC Overlord at some point in the future, but Since we just got TR Overlord 4 years ago, There are many other characters that still have not had any updates that I would want to see come first.

"JUST 4 years ago?"
Go back to the nursing home, old pal!

But seriously, many figures that appeared in that trilogy were already remade in SS'86 and the current WFC trilogy. Notably Rodimus Prime. Overlord definitely need his Commander update. And I'm pretty sure it's for sooner rather than later.

Black Zarak looks great! I did preorder him, he'll go nicely with Black Roritchi. I'll need to start prepping for a Japanese G1 shelf I think.

-Kanrabat- wrote:"JUST 4 years ago?"
Go back to the nursing home, old pal!

But seriously, many figures that appeared in that trilogy were already remade in SS'86 and the current WFC trilogy. Notably Rodimus Prime. Overlord definitely need his Commander update. And I'm pretty sure it's for sooner rather than later.

I'll ignore the condescending tone of your comment if you heed the gravity of mine. . Anyway.... No, 4 years is not long at all, especially when I can think of a few dozen characters from 1984-1990 that have not had a proper update in the last decade, and at least 4 or 5 would be CC that haven't been done yet.

o.supreme wrote:I'll ignore the condescending tone of your comment if you heed the gravity of mine. . Anyway.... No, 4 years is not long at all, especially when I can think of a few dozen characters from 1984-1990 that have not had a proper update in the last decade, and at least 4 or 5 would be CC that haven't been done yet.

Joking aside, you can expect that the "main characters" will be redone first without any silly weird gimmick like head-mastering or combining. Weird and obscure characters are slowly coming along in the current trilogy like Spinister and even recent "OCs" like Barricade. Just give it time.

Still waiting for a proper update to the Pretenders, especially Bludgeon and Thunderwing...

The Twitter page for TFU.NFO had this picture posted saying maybe Devcon and Clampdown. Looks like the legs are a bit different on the white figure so maybe ER Sideswipe is a thing...



Also, wtf is up with the leakers taking photos like they hate what they are taking photos off?!?!

Mannnnnnnnnnn I would get that devcon so fast!!!! So cool
I really like clampdowns colors too, I was only planning on getting Gen selects deep cover, ER sideswipe (with bw grimlock), and gigawatt but I think ill be getting clampdown as well

Unless that picture is from yesterday hahahahaha

Razorbeast88 wrote:Unless that picture is from yesterday hahahahaha

LOL, I went and double checked the date. It's today

Hmm there's talk about these being fake We'll have to see if more information surfaces

aronjlove wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:Unless that picture is from yesterday hahahahaha

LOL, I went and double checked the date. It's today

Not so fast. This was first posted yesterday. The original source is a Tweet that was posted yesterday and deleted within an hour. TFU's Tweet is a re-circulation of the pic.