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A fine looking Trypticon indeed! But I'm totally content with my Takara Dinosaurer...'nuff said!

Pretty much the same. The colors on this new Trypticon look amazing. But now that the word is out, I'm sure the secondary market price for the TR version will bottom out. I would be happy just doing a straight "swap", but its not worth the effort to me to sell the one I have, then get the new one if I might not break even.

Hasbro reissued Fort Max last year, (an 8 year old toy at the time with electronics). They are doing the same in 2025. Hard to believe its been almost 8 years for Trypticon. As for going back and reissuing T30 Metroplex again... I just don't know. TT did it last in 2019. I still want a Metrotitan, so whether it is a repaint of T30, or a repaint of a *new* OG Metroplex in a couple of years, either way works for me.

o.supreme wrote:About metroplex, well Hasbro reissued Fort max last year, an 8 year old toy with eflectronics. So they are doing the same in 2025. Hard to believe its been almost 8 years for Trypticon. As for going back and reissuing T30 Metroplex again... I just don't know. TT did it last in 2019. I still want a Metrotitan, so whether it is a repaint of T30, or a repaint of a *new* OG Metroplex in a couple of years, either way works for me.

The thing is, Fort Max and Trypticon were both Titans Return toys, and for all of the mold reuse that Hasbro has been doing as of late, they don't seem willing to go back any farther than Titans Return for reusing older molds in current toylines.

Metroplex needs a new mold. The Generations figure was good for it's time, and it blew away most fans with its size. But looking back, it was pretty basic. As was Maximus, even if he did get some improvements. But Metroplex was too tall and lanky, looking almost nothing like he did in the FoC game, on which he was supposedly based, at least in part. But even a G1 Metroplex would be thicker in every part if he was to be accurate.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Metroplex needs a new mold. The Generations figure was good for it's time, and it blew away most fans with its size. But looking back, it was pretty basic. As was Maximus, even if he did get some improvements. But Metroplex was too tall and lanky, looking almost nothing like he did in the FoC game, on which he was supposedly based, at least in part. But even a G1 Metroplex would be thicker in every part if he was to be accurate.

It pretty much was just G1 Metroplex stretched out and hollowed out.

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Metroplex needs a new mold. The Generations figure was good for it's time, and it blew away most fans with its size. But looking back, it was pretty basic. As was Maximus, even if he did get some improvements. But Metroplex was too tall and lanky, looking almost nothing like he did in the FoC game, on which he was supposedly based, at least in part. But even a G1 Metroplex would be thicker in every part if he was to be accurate.

It pretty much was just G1 Metroplex stretched out and hollowed out.

I never liked that Metroplex because of that. It was a weird hybrid between FOC and G1, then it was super deformed. The final insult was that compared to the G1 original, the thing barely transformed.
And the final F-U was to make Fortmax based on that mold.

That's why I sold both of them when their resale value TO A STORE were double of what I paid.

The Fort Max reissue should have been Brave Max to go with all the new RID figures and HasLab Omega Prime.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:The Fort Max reissue should have been Brave Max to go with all the new RID figures and HasLab Omega Prime.

Emerje

Since I already have TR Fort and Legends Grand, I definitely would have been up for a Brave Max. Actually, now that I think about it, last years reissue may have been a test. We know the Haslab comes with a Cerebros Titan Master. maybe next year (2026) they will release a Brave Max in the selects line .

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Metroplex needs a new mold. The Generations figure was good for it's time, and it blew away most fans with its size. But looking back, it was pretty basic. As was Maximus, even if he did get some improvements. But Metroplex was too tall and lanky, looking almost nothing like he did in the FoC game, on which he was supposedly based, at least in part. But even a G1 Metroplex would be thicker in every part if he was to be accurate.

It pretty much was just G1 Metroplex stretched out and hollowed out.

Exactly. They ruined it.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Metroplex needs a new mold. The Generations figure was good for it's time, and it blew away most fans with its size. But looking back, it was pretty basic. As was Maximus, even if he did get some improvements. But Metroplex was too tall and lanky, looking almost nothing like he did in the FoC game, on which he was supposedly based, at least in part. But even a G1 Metroplex would be thicker in every part if he was to be accurate.

It pretty much was just G1 Metroplex stretched out and hollowed out.

Exactly. They ruined it.

Won't get any argument from me. They made one of the worst Titans so bad just for the sake of making him the "Tallest Transformer EVAR!!!(TM)DO-NOT-STEAL" because height was the number one priority.

Only for Fort Max to swoop in and reclaim that title two years later by using the same mold as a base, before HasLab Unicron finally went and showed them both how to really take that title to heart without being lazy and hollow, making Titan Metroplex look even more embarrassing in hindsight.

I really dig this deco on Trypticon and he's always been one of my favorites. I may have to get this.

OH GOD! I gotta have it! GOTTA HAVE IT!!! I heard there was a rumor that they are reissuing Trypticon & I didn't care since I already have the original all decked out with decals from Toyhax. But when I actually saw this? I GOTTA HAVE IT!


Also, THIS is what I've been saying the Godzilla crossover should have been. I might have to order 2 & make a custom Godzilla since I don't like the official one they're releasing.

I've always been curious about the size of this Trypticon because in the show it seemed huge, yet is only a Titan Class, something tells me it should be larger when compared to regular bots. Same for Matroplex as well though. After all Omega Supreme is also Titan but isn't all that big compared to Metroplex in the show. He feels/seems closer to Jetfire's size but obviously bigger.

As an aside, I caught wind of a 4' Metroplex and at first thought it seems like a f=great idea but then reality set in that I've got nowhere to put something that large. It did get me to thinking on the subject of there being a market for something larger than Titan Class at about 24' tall is kind of small for a Citybot, but at $200 already I cant imaging how much it would cost for a bigger bot and TBH I'm not sure I've got the space needed for 24" bots. The display case i have for Transformers only has 13" between the shelves and that just barely fits Jetfire.

Till-all-R1 wrote:I've always been curious about the size of this Trypticon because in the show it seemed huge, yet is only a Titan Class, something tells me it should be larger when compared to regular bots. Same for Matroplex as well though. After all Omega Supreme is also Titan but isn't all that big compared to Metroplex in the show. He feels/seems closer to Jetfire's size but obviously bigger.

In order to have a Trypticon and a Metroplex that were truly in scale with the smaller normal-sized TF toys, their two toys would have have be as tall as a house. Titan class was created to give really big toys for the really big characters, but not so enormously big as to make the prices outlandishly ludicrous. The Planet class Unicron that HasLab made was itself the biggest official Transformers toy ever produced, and it sold for $600 USD at 27+ inches tall. Nobody should have to pay what would amount to a mortgage payment for a plastic plaything sold at normal retail.

Of course, this is mostly speaking from the perspective of fiction that does portray the Cityformers as legit city-sized characters, like the G1 cartoon and the IDW comics. The Marvel Comics, on the other hand, depicted the likes of Trypticon, Fortress Maximus, and Scorponok all as only above-average in height compared to their peers, standing only just a head or so taller than Powermaster Optimus Prime, who was likewise a bigger-than-average dude but not a gargantuan giant compared to his friends. The only one whom the Marvel Comics did depict as a city-sized individual was Metroplex, in the UK multi-parter "Space Pirates!" where he was the core component of Autobot City.

Also when you consider the old TV show was basically just an ad to sell toys, by making bigger bots it resulted in them being able to better sell higher priced toys. After all back in the 80's it was far cheaper to get a Metroplex than it is today, even if some of us still couldn't afford the higher prices then some people did. Just as it is so today. Metroplex was always one that evaded me throughout the years due to various things, firstly the cost due to being a low income family kid in 87 so I generally only got the smaller bots like tapes, bee etc. and sometimes the bigger ones like Jazz, Springer and very rarely got the bigger ones. The only two combiners I ever got were Devastator and Superion and only because they were small buy in that could be acquired over time.

Even as a young adult I never got a City sized bot because of higher prices and limited space, of course I had outgrown them in my 20's/30's and only recently got back into Transformers in 2019. So now it's really only about limited space for such big items. Though I'm not overly fond of dropping almost $200 on a toy, I have occasionally done it. lol

Till-all-R1 wrote:Also when you consider the old TV show was basically just an ad to sell toys, by making bigger bots it resulted in them being able to better sell higher priced toys. After all back in the 80's it was far cheaper to get a Metroplex than it is today, even if some of us still couldn't afford the higher prices then some people did. Just as it is so today. Metroplex was always one that evaded me throughout the years due to various things, firstly the cost due to being a low income family kid in 87 so I generally only got the smaller bots like tapes, bee etc. and sometimes the bigger ones like Jazz, Springer and very rarely got the bigger ones. The only two combiners I ever got were Devastator and Superion and only because they were small buy in that could be acquired over time.

Even as a young adult I never got a City sized bot because of higher prices and limited space, of course I had outgrown them in my 20's/30's and only recently got back into Transformers in 2019. So now it's really only about limited space for such big items. Though I'm not overly fond of dropping almost $200 on a toy, I have occasionally done it. lol

Then again, It's not like the original 1986 G1 Metroplex toy was all that big, anyway. It was only just a little taller than Ultra Magnus.


Transformers G1 1986 Metroplex (Metroflex) Gallery

Scorponok kinda gets a pass for his random sizes since he was never a city to begin with, he turns into a "defense base".

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Scorponok kinda gets a pass for his random sizes since he was never a city to begin with, he turns into a "defense base".

Emerje

In "The Rebirth", he was built by Zarak from the Hive's entire underground city.

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:Scorponok kinda gets a pass for his random sizes since he was never a city to begin with, he turns into a "defense base".

Emerje

In "The Rebirth", he was built by Zarak from the Hive's entire underground city.

Just checked and the Japanese toy box calls it a "Decepticon City" so i guess in Japan he's a city and in the US he's just a base.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:Scorponok kinda gets a pass for his random sizes since he was never a city to begin with, he turns into a "defense base".

Emerje

In "The Rebirth", he was built by Zarak from the Hive's entire underground city.

Just checked and the Japanese toy box calls it a "Decepticon City" so i guess in Japan he's a city and in the US he's just a base.

Emerje

"The Rebirth" is from the US.

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:Scorponok kinda gets a pass for his random sizes since he was never a city to begin with, he turns into a "defense base".

Emerje

In "The Rebirth", he was built by Zarak from the Hive's entire underground city.

Just checked and the Japanese toy box calls it a "Decepticon City" so i guess in Japan he's a city and in the US he's just a base.

Emerje

"The Rebirth" is from the US.

I need to go to bed...

Emerje

These toys were never going to be exactly in scale when you start talking about beings the size of cities, let alone planets.

I always figured Omega Supreme and most Combiners were about 4-5 times the size of a bot Like Optimus Prime.

Metroplex and Trypticon were in their own scale "beyond belief", as was FortMax and Scorponok (actually bigger then the previous two, but I can concede they were basically the same size as we have now in the Titan Toys).

TR Trypticon being somewhat smaller than T30 Metroplex has always been a sticking point for some including myself. But I made my peace with it a long time ago, Its not that big a deal (no pun intended), especially with the different constraints you have with a large Dinosaur-Like Robot vs just a humanoid one. Additionally, while I've never weighted the two, I'm pretty sure TR Tryp has more mass.

While its a little off putting, if you stand TR Typ up straight, he only looses a few inches to Metroplex. Its not nearly egregious as say.... the original Fort Max to Scorponok, which the Modern Titans fixed, and I am so happy for.

While I think Siege Omega Supreme is one of the best modern toys/titan period; I actually wouldn't mind a scaled down version that sizes with SS86 Devastator and the other combiners we've had since 2015.

I'd totally buy "Small Titan Class" Omega Supreme and Commander Class Scorponok.

Emerje

Since Titan is now $200 I guess they would have to introduce a class between it and Commander? lol

Then again, Omega was made back when Titan Class was only $120. So when they start making newer bots under this higher price point instead of reissues I wonder if they'll try to make them slightly taller/bigger? Or maintain the current proportions to keep them the same size as their predecessors?
I can't imagine anything being gained by making a new Metroplex even bigger than the previous figure.

Jetfire is rather big for a Commander when compared to UM and Prime, so it seems they have already adjusted Commander Class somewhat. Or they simply ran out of Bots that size to do, Jetfire certainly doesn't fit into Titan Class. I wonder exactly what other figures can they do in Commander Class after tractor trailer rigs? Would they need to put Octane as Commander being that he's also a triple changer?

Till-all-R1 wrote:Since Titan is now $200 I guess they would have to introduce a class between it and Commander? lol

The Upcoming Star Optimus Prime is being sold as a "Smaller Titan" for $149.99

Till-all-R1 wrote:Then again, Omega was made back when Titan Class was only $120.

I believe Siege Omega Supreme MSRP was $159.99 back in 2019