AllNewSuperRobot wrote:There is always a work around with the Deluxe Insecticons, by altering the design. Lean heavier into the Beast Modes and they become Legally distinct enough to avoid issue.
-Kanrabat- wrote:So the logical step is for Hasbro to fist release the Insecticons
o.supreme wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:So the logical step is for Hasbro to fist release the Insecticons
But they were already released during Prime Wars Trilogy. Just because they didn't satisfy your personal tastes, doesn't negate their release. Personally I go all the way back to T30. I'd rather have any character from 1984-1992 that hasn't been represented since 2013, rather than another of something that was already made. But again, that is just me. Personally I'm not even a fan of the Deluxe Insecticons, I just appreciate seeing characters get their due. I never got any micro masters back in the day because by the time they came along, I was done with Transformers. However those Earthrise Modulators were an awesome idea and got me to purchase representations of characters I never cared about before.
-Kanrabat- wrote:The deluxe sized Insecticons are sure to sell. The oddball characters are always a higher risk.
o.supreme wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:So the logical step is for Hasbro to fist release the Insecticons
But they were already released during Prime Wars Trilogy. Just because they didn't satisfy your personal tastes, doesn't negate their release. Personally I go all the way back to T30. I'd rather have any character from 1984-1992 that hasn't been represented since 2013, rather than another of something that was already made. But again, that is just me. Personally I'm not even a fan of the Deluxe Insecticons, I just appreciate seeing characters get their due. I never got any micro masters back in the day because by the time they came along, I was done with Transformers. However those Earthrise Modulators were an awesome idea and got me to purchase representations of characters I never cared about before.
I'm just curious, why do you think that? Because you think they should be deluxes? Would that make them better?-Kanrabat- wrote:They were released in the Prime Wars Trilogy, but they were too small.
Asepticon wrote:If the rumors are correct, I'll be saving money next year.
Rodimus Prime wrote:I'm just curious, why do you think that? Because you think they should be deluxes? Would that make them better?-Kanrabat- wrote:They were released in the Prime Wars Trilogy, but they were too small.
I wouldn't mind deluxe Insecticons, but I think the Prime Wars versions are very good, if there were new ones made they'd have to be perfect for me to replace the legends figures.
Plus getting to actually have accessories/weapons.-Kanrabat- wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:I'm just curious, why do you think that? Because you think they should be deluxes? Would that make them better?-Kanrabat- wrote:They were released in the Prime Wars Trilogy, but they were too small.
I wouldn't mind deluxe Insecticons, but I think the Prime Wars versions are very good, if there were new ones made they'd have to be perfect for me to replace the legends figures.
Better engineering, better cartoon accuracy, and better scaling. As they did since Siege.
Sowndwave76 wrote:Asepticon wrote:If the rumors are correct, I'll be saving money next year.
Same... & I’m more than okay with that!!!
In the grand scheme it won’t be long until characters I’ve waited a long, long time for will be released.
With versions that are as close to my ideal as they may ever get.
I’m predicting in just under 3 years I’ll be making my collecting outro.
Munkky wrote:I'm edging closer and closer to this point as well, I have almost everything I want from Studio Series and the War for Cybertron Trilogy, it's literally just six or seven more toys and I'm pretty much done. The thing is though, I've been at this point a couple of times in this hobby, first with Dark of the Moon, and then with Power of the Primes, I was at the "Just a couple more and I'll call it a night" point, but then Hasbro always did something with the brand that sucked me back in. That's why I'm so intrigued about Transformers: Legacy and its supposed inclusion of Prime characters, that would be enough to keep me around for at least a couple more years. I'll happily take the Arcee mentioned in these leaks, and I'd also appreciate a Bulkhead, Knock Out and (seeing as most of the posts in this thread mention Insecticons) a Voyager-sized Prime Insecticon with a couple per case for army building.
Rodimus Prime wrote:Yeah, Blitzwing and Astrotrain definitely need to be redone.
Sowndwave76 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Yeah, Blitzwing and Astrotrain definitely need to be redone.
I think part of the problem is these are tricky figures due to being triple-changers.
Personally I’m okay with the alt mode appearances being sacrificed a bit for a good-looking, more screen-accurate bot mode.
Ideally I see this working the best by making him leader class; voyager-sized with the extra engineering required to help make the best of the alt modes.
My thoughts exactly. I think Blitzwing is a great opportunity for the SS86 line, though we just got a figure called Blitzwing in the regular SS. As for Astrotrain, it would be nice to get a screen accurate figure at the leader size. He was a pretty big bot after all.Overcracker wrote:Also the fact Astrotrain was just released during Siege and re-released in Earthrise does not help his chances of getting a new figure so soon. Blitzwing might still make the cut in SS-86 since he was in the movie and is a popular character and has repaint potential.
Rodimus Prime wrote:My thoughts exactly. I think Blitzwing is a great opportunity for the SS86 line, though we just got a figure called Blitzwing in the regular SS. As for Astrotrain, it would be nice to get a screen accurate figure at the leader size. He was a pretty big bot after all.Overcracker wrote:Also the fact Astrotrain was just released during Siege and re-released in Earthrise does not help his chances of getting a new figure so soon. Blitzwing might still make the cut in SS-86 since he was in the movie and is a popular character and has repaint potential.
Overcracker wrote:
Also the fact Astrotrain was just released during Siege and re-released in Earthrise does not help his chances of getting a new figure so soon. If anything maybe a retool to look more earth based a la Ultra Magnus might the only thing we can hope for for a while.
Blitzwing might still make the cut in SS-86 since he was in the movie and is a popular character and has repaint potential.
-Kanrabat- wrote:I think that it wouldn't be too soon to have a SS'86 leader Astrotrain that is a "mini mp" with cartoon accurate modes. Meaning a clean shuttle mode and a train mode who don't have a tiny nose. Leave out the tender for more meant and engineering for him. As for the Siege/ER Astrotrain, he's the Cybertronian version. So the Earth mode can be the true "mini MP."
Sowndwave76 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:I think that it wouldn't be too soon to have a SS'86 leader Astrotrain that is a "mini mp" with cartoon accurate modes. Meaning a clean shuttle mode and a train mode who don't have a tiny nose. Leave out the tender for more meant and engineering for him. As for the Siege/ER Astrotrain, he's the Cybertronian version. So the Earth mode can be the true "mini MP."
This was part of my point.
I don't think it would be crazy at all to get another version very soon, especially if it's a whole new mold and a good departure from the Siege version.
It really is time for a lot of these characters to get some screen accurate figures...
I know there are people that hate the thought of that.
But there are a whole lot of people out there that are in favor of this!
o.supreme wrote:Emerje wrote:Problem is Hasbro would have to go it alone. We're never getting Deluxe Insecticons for the same reason why we'll never get a proper G1 Jetfire remake: Takara Tomy can't sell it. The designs and original toys are owned by Bandai and Hasbro doesn't make anything anymore that isn't also sold by (or sellable by) Takara Tomy. So the only way the Deluxe Insecticons are ever getting made is if they look absolutely nothing like the original toy designs aside from colors just like Skyfire, to which I'd have to ask what's the point? Yes, they sold that tiny Micromaster Chop Shop with Megatron, but that was hardly recognizable as the Beetras design. They didn't sell the Legends Chop Shop at all.
Emerje
What about T30 Roadbuster & Whirl, did those not get ported over to Takara either?
Even still, the fact that CW Chop Shop was made, shows it can be done. I'm not sure how long this whole "Brand Unification" thing will last, but I'm thinking it will slowly erode over time to where both Hasbro and TT will begin making there own product again, in addition to the mostly shared line.
Hasbro only licensed the Beetras molds from Bandai, they didn't buy them outright. And with Hasbro's relationship with Takara having strengthened over the years, it wouldn't be a good idea for molds owned by Takara's biggest rival to be sold in the toyline that Hasbro and Takara share with each other. Therein lies the bureaucratic mess.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:It is weird that 3P can make an exact likeness of a Transformer and simply release it under a different name, mostly without issue. But HasTak can't re-release stuff they originally did back in the 80's in a similar fashion?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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